12 days until Steel+Coal Discount Vouchers!

[Hades_warrior]

21 hours ago, Zimbiye said:

Tromp is for COAL

Tromp is for coal, not for president 

[Hades_warrior]

On 11/2/2022 at 2:47 PM, Sir_Sinksalot said:

 

For coal the only BB options on the table are between the Kearsarge and the Marco Polo.

Kearsarge is far better ship over MP. Just saying 

[Stockensprotz]

An additional thing one might consider (that i overlooked in my last post) is utility. Apart from the obvious captain trainer there are ships that make certain missions much easier. Like the Tone for cruiser missions where you have to get torp hits. Where you would struggle in any other cruiser, Tones planes makes this a breeze.  Or the Forrest Sherman/Marceau for main battery hits (although japanese gunboats work well enough for this), Moskva for citadel farming etc. 

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Here's a thought.

 

One thing I don't have for missions or campaigns at higher tier is a CV.

 

Now, I wouldn't waste steel on a CV just for some missions etc but ya I could lose some coal in that.

 

So for just a bit more coal than the T9 Kearsarge I could get the Max Immelmann or the Malta.

 

Which of these two floating airbases covers the most spread of CV related missions more efficiently than the other and which has the most usable mix of aircraft types?

[Hades_warrior]

Wasting resource just for some combat missions? 

But... why? 

I would never waste coal or steel for some mission ''rewards''. Especially not in this game.

[Ronchabale]

16 hours ago, Jvd2000 said:

Having coal sitting idle ( beyond a security amount of coal in case WG announces a withdrawal  3 months  in advance) is a waste so better just spend it.  You will get additional coal from snowflakes plus any Xmas extra.

Hmm.. true

16 hours ago, Jvd2000 said:

Just buy another T10 ( like the cheapest possible) for the extra Satan crate voucher plus fe the Rio de Janeiro to make sure THAT one atleast won’t drop if you get lucky with Satan crates. You might even take the 2 T3 since WG sometimes gives away the T2-T4 premium container during events.

The "vaccine" approach.. Hmm. somehow it makes sense

[Stockensprotz]

Vor 5 Minuten, Hades_warrior sagte:

Wasting resource just for some combat missions? 

But... why? 

I would never waste coal or steel for some mission ''rewards''. Especially not in this game.

But sometimes the missions are part of a chain (dockyard etc.) where almost all the options are annoying. I used the example of the Tone because there was a chain couple of weeks ago where in the end i was down to either use a carrier to do something (which i do not) or try to get torp hits with a cruiser which even in coop is time consuming and no fun. So spending ressources to make a situation like this easier is not a bad idea. Because you have to keep in mind: The actual valuable ressource in this game is not coal or steel - it is your lifetime and the fun playing you have in that time. If I can skip annoying missions by spending some coal/steel or even dubs that is not a waste to me.

I hate CVs and subs and would never play them on the live server outside of coop if i can help it. Which also means that i do not have high tier versions of them. But if i spend some coal, i can save a lot of unenjoyable time spent grinding this crap and still have a CV for coop where i do not make that much of a credit loss when using it for some mission.

 

And one has to keep in mind that most coal/steel/RB-ships are fluff anyway. No real need for Salem if you have DesMoines, no real need for Moskva if you have Petro, no real need for Shikishima if you have Yamato etc. I have pointed out that I would indeed go for those ships first that have a unique playstyle that you do not get in the techtree but after that utility at least to me is a viable selection point. Most of the ships you have will not be played a lot anyways. After the grind everyone has favourites that he uses most of the time.

[Hades_warrior]

10 minutes ago, Stockensprotz said:

But sometimes the missions are part of a chain (dockyard etc.) where almost all the options are annoying. I used the example of the Tone because there was a chain couple of weeks ago where in the end i was down to either use a carrier to do something (which i do not) or try to get torp hits with a cruiser which even in coop is time consuming and no fun. So spending ressources to make a situation like this easier is not a bad idea. Because you have to keep in mind: The actual valuable ressource in this game is not coal or steel - it is your lifetime and the fun playing you have in that time. If I can skip annoying missions by spending some coal/steel or even dubs that is not a waste to me.

I hate CVs and subs and would never play them on the live server outside of coop if i can help it. Which also means that i do not have high tier versions of them. But if i spend some coal, i can save a lot of unenjoyable time spent grinding this crap and still have a CV for coop where i do not make that much of a credit loss when using it for some mission.

 

And one has to keep in mind that most coal/steel/RB-ships are fluff anyway. No real need for Salem if you have DesMoines, no real need for Moskva if you have Petro, no real need for Shikishima if you have Yamato etc. I have pointed out that I would indeed go for those ships first that have a unique playstyle that you do not get in the techtree but after that utility at least to me is a viable selection point. Most of the ships you have will not be played a lot anyways. After the grind everyone has favourites that he uses most of the time.

So don't play them. There are plenty of missions that you can do with any ship class. If you wanna finish some Campaign you can do that and without that cancerious class aswell.

[Deksi_4]

12 hours ago, WildWind84 said:

To be honesty here, I am not dd player and also haven't clue what to expect, so tnx for your answer - it helps very much. Why Marceau if I am not dd player? Reasons are next: my next RB ship will probably be Colbert and and I can see some of the aspect between Marceau and Colbert could be near similar, even they are completely different classes. Next reason is: I have literaly all from TX for coal, exept CVs and dds (t9 I haven't Iwami, Marco Polo, Kearsage (can't play him with rockets), Carnot and Tulsa and ofc. dds; all from lower tiers I have). CVs can't play (medical reasons), so option is dds. Also I will try to learn how to play. So my next question - from where start to learn, how to learn (have Siroco, Jaguar, Aigle and researched, but I need to buy Guepard from French dds)? Tnx a lot :)

@WildWind84I can tell you that I am not a good dd player at all🙂. I bought Marceau without playing French dds in the tech tree line past tier 6.I have Jaguar and Guepard and can tell you that Guepard is a lot easier ship than Jaguar to play. Buy Guepard and stay at tier 6 as much is possible to learn the run and gun playstile that wil be usefull for you if you want to buy and play Marceau well. I suggest you to play Guepard first, and then, if you like the playstile to buy Marceau. Doing so, you wont waste your resources(coal) if you dont like French dd playstile. Aigle is an average dd that is very good in operations and can perform good in Randoms too. But keep in mind that Aigle have smoke, so she is not the same playstile as Guepard and Marceau. You can use and play Aigle only to level your French dd captain.The basic thing how to play French dds is not to contest caps early in the game, try to play them as a light cruiser and support your team mate dds in your team. That is my main advice because French dds dont have good concealment and are outspoted almost all the times. You should sneak if you see a spoted enemy dd, close up using Island cover and rip them up. The best way to play Marceau is using Islands to cover yourself and aproach at the enemies. In the midtime, if you spot an enemy bb, rain Fire on him, but in kitting position, because if the enemies spot you you can speed boost and dodge and evade enemy Fire. I hope I helped you a bit🙂

[WildWind84]

31 minutes ago, Deksi_4 said:

@WildWind84I can tell you that I am not a good dd player at all🙂. I bought Marceau without playing French dds in the tech tree line past tier 6.I have Jaguar and Guepard and can tell you that Guepard is a lot easier ship than Jaguar to play. Buy Guepard and stay at tier 6 as much is possible to learn the run and gun playstile that wil be usefull for you if you want to buy and play Marceau well. I suggest you to play Guepard first, and then, if you like the playstile to buy Marceau. Doing so, you wont waste your resources(coal) if you dont like French dd playstile. Aigle is an average dd that is very good in operations and can perform good in Randoms too. But keep in mind that Aigle have smoke, so she is not the same playstile as Guepard and Marceau. You can use and play Aigle only to level your French dd captain.The basic thing how to play French dds is not to contest caps early in the game, try to play them as a light cruiser and support your team mate dds in your team. That is my main advice because French dds dont have good concealment and are outspoted almost all the times. You should sneak if you see a spoted enemy dd, close up using Island cover and rip them up. The best way to play Marceau is using Islands to cover yourself and aproach at the enemies. In the midtime, if you spot an enemy bb, rain Fire on him, but in kitting position, because if the enemies spot you you can speed boost and dodge and evade enemy Fire. I hope I helped you a bit🙂

Yes, you are, thank you very much for all  

[stefanorgano]

Coal I'd say Marceau. Still haven't played it in PvP but it's the only ship I can have real fun with in co-op. I mean it's REALLY fun, to the point I can keep playing it for like 5-6 consecutive games in order to farm those stupid 2k ribbons missions or whatever, without ever getting tired.

 

Steel that's easy. Get Bourgogne. Yes it's one squishy baguette, yes thanks WG for super BBs with overmatch, but the damage, holy cow the damage. You don't need big guns when you have 12 with MBRB. Angled targets? Burn them with 35% fire chances. Broadsides? Load AP and watch their HP disappear. DD appears out of nowhere? HE and reload booster AND République secondaries with old, pre-nerfed Alsace dispersion and the little bastard will be gone in seconds.

Add in speed, agility, speed boost, good concealment and you have a superbly strong BB that's also fun and satisfying to play.

[Hades_warrior]

On 11/27/2022 at 5:45 PM, wot_2016_gunner said:

i'll be using my next coupon to get Moskva; (after that i'll be using June's one to get Bourgogne, by that time i'll have enough steel)

 

I'll also get both Lutjens and Kuznetsov with it.

 

On 11/27/2022 at 5:57 PM, Hades_warrior said:

Same.

Well, after weegeee announced this USN beauty, Im in hard dilema to save my resource (and coupon) to buy this new thingy or buy Moskva now and buy the second later in second half of 2023 

 

[Hakssor]

1 minute ago, Hades_warrior said:

 

Well, after weegeee announced this USN beauty, Im in hard dilema to save my resource (and coupon) to buy this new thingy or buy Moskva now and buy the second later in second half of 2023 

 

There is no guarantee Illinois isn't gonna be doubloons-only. Given that he has some historical value and Kearsarge is already for coal, I really hope she is for RB/steel at least. 

 

[Hades_warrior]

10 minutes ago, Hakssor said:

There is no guarantee Illinois isn't gonna be doubloons-only. Given that he has some historical value and Kearsarge is already for coal, I really hope she is for RB/steel at least. 

 

No, we don't need more RB nonsense. And I really doubt this will be for doubloons only because its tier 9 and that tier is common for Coal resource.

[wot_2016_gunner]

5 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

Well, after weegeee announced this USN beauty, Im in hard dilema to save my resource (and coupon) to buy this new thingy or buy Moskva now and buy the second later in second half of 2023 

Well, we still have no idea what resource she'll be and even if she'll be for coal, by the time she'll be released you should have enough coal anyway.

 

I was in a similar dilemma with Bourgogne, because i only need less then 3k steel to get it (something like 2.8k) but since it'll still take a bit i'll still get Moskva today and Bourgogne will wait

 

I do wish that they'll split the coal and steel coupon into 2 separate one tbh

 

[Panocek]

5 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

No, we don't need more RB nonsense. And I really doubt this will be for doubloons only because its tier 9 and that tier is common for Coal resource.

You might not need more RB nonsense, but earning projections spreadshiet says otherwise 

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Hi guys.

 

How's the long range gun handling on the Bourgo in regards accuracy, dispersion and shell velocity? and compared to the likes of the Shiki?

 

I can see the comparison "on paper" and understand the Shiki has better sigma and dispersion but I'd like an "in practice" feedback from those who played both and what they expect when they line up a full broadside on a target at 21km away?

 

This is basically my last Q&A before I bite the bullet and pick one of these two. I'm not going to be disappointed by either choice but I'm still 50/50 so I'd like to know how the 12 shells from the Bourgo compare to 6 bigger and more accurate shells from the Shiki at these 20-22km sorts of range. Does the 1.8 sigma with 12 shells on the Bourgo translate into an acceptable grouping at long range where a decent amount of them still crunch into the target or is it some wild shotgun sort of spread most the time?

 

Also, tell me about Bourgo's armor vs T11 ships?

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

What to get, what to get....

 

 

Plymouth? Ragnar? Mecklenburg? Bourg? Something for coal, even? I enjoy Gibraltar at the moment tremendously, maybe I just don't get anything? Ahhh. The choices!

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Right, enough with the over-thinking.

 

First Steel ship, done, in the bag, happy. 

 

19 minutes ago, Karkong_the_Impaler said:

What to get, what to get....

 

 

Plymouth? Ragnar? Mecklenburg? Bourg? Something for coal, even? I enjoy Gibraltar at the moment tremendously, maybe I just don't get anything? Ahhh. The choices!

 

Christmas break soon, we'll build resources back up again and even faster if we're actually playing which a new ship tends to make us to more as a new point of interest. Just go for it, and another discount in 6 months anyway.

 

Who knows with gaming it's always a possibility to stop playing and lose interest etc which would make all the saving and not buying ships a total waste of time. Also, getting covid during the summer and that long lockdown opened my eyes to "getting on with it" in life a bit more.