Update 0.11.10: Japanese Light Cruisers

[416taylor]

Removw subs, CVs and super Marios or put them all together in own mod

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

7 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

You are right, that usually we have 2 patches of Early Access when releasing a new line. But with Subs, it was actually very different to other ship line release we had in past.

[rainmakerltu]

Research bureau. It is interesting thing, because I have no idea what that is. And I doubt I ever know. Because as I understand, I need research at least 5 TX ships. Since 2015, with breaks from game I managed to get to tier 8 and no thanks to my effort, but Cleveland jumped from T6 to T8. During this comeback I managed somehow to rack enough XP to research T9 US cruiser.

 

And, according the news I still need fully research 4 more lines.

 

And I thought Assasins Creed Oddysey is bad game because it has content locked by experience locks.

[flip_66]

17 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

No, if you are actively participating in the battle, than you won't get that "Unsportsmanlike" behaviour notification. Those requierements can vary for classes.

But if you are destroyed in the battle, you are allowed to leave. You also didn't receive punishment for exiting the battle once you are dead before. 

So the new punishing system only counts for afk battles? Am I still allowed to go to the desktop while moving my ship to a certain place, knowing that I will not encounter anyone for the next two minutes?

[YabbaCoe]

8 minutes ago, GordonsGekko said:

So the new punishing system only counts for afk battles? Am I still allowed to go to the desktop while moving my ship to a certain place, knowing that I will not encounter anyone for the next two minutes?

No, the system works in the similar way, as it was working until now. Just with some tweaks.

Regarding that desktop, if you would manage to return back to the battle, therefore in majority of battle you are there and doing something, than you won't be marked as afk. But technically, if you alt tab for 2 minutes and than you get destroyed in 30 seconds, than majority of the battle you were afk, so you can be marked as afk in that battle. 

[flip_66]

5 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

No, the system works in the similar way, as it was working until now. Just with some tweaks.

Wasn't quite clear about it. What I meant is: Does it have an impact on you if some of your team members abuse the report system and report you for unsportsmanlike conduct for no reason?

 

For example: There is a triple Tirpitz division in your team. They want you to smoke them up but you are playing a French DD. You don't smoke them up because you don't have smoke. The triple Tirpitz division gets mad at you and all three of them report you for unsportsmanlike conduct. Does this affect the outcome of your battle?

[YabbaCoe]

15 minutes ago, GordonsGekko said:

Wasn't quite clear about it. What I meant is: Does it have an impact on you if some of your team members abuse the report system and report you for unsportsmanlike conduct for no reason?

 

For example: There is a triple Tirpitz division in your team. They want you to smoke them up but you are playing a French DD. You don't smoke them up because you don't have smoke. The triple Tirpitz division gets mad at you and all three of them report you for unsportsmanlike conduct. Does this affect the outcome of your battle?

No, this feature has nothing in common with the system. If somebody report you in the battle, than you only loose karma and if you typed something in the chat, you can receive a chatban.

If they decide to compile a ticket for Customer Support, first it will take some time before being resolved, so it absolutely can't effect your battle and also CS agents will investigate on that and only if they will have proof you did Unsportsmanlike behaviour, than they can act upon. But that would be only, if you would sail to A1 and stay there the entire battle, or you would only sail next to your CV etc. 

So if you are just playing normally, regardless how well, you won't be punished for unsportsmalike conduct. Of course if you are not hitting your allies, obviously.

[lmperial_Japanese_Navy]

These IJN CLs are nerfed to crap.

Like why do you ever play these nerfed garbages over the already existing heavy cruisers when they offer nothing new ?

 

15 second to reload 150 mm guns ? For real ? I have seen the Gameplay on Yodo and that thing has 11 sec reload i think for the 18x 150 mm guns and even when they hit you either do no more than 3k or all shells shattered and deal no damage at all ! Imagine the tier 9 and 8 ship with this same gun but 4 second longer reload !?

The excuse of giving them long reload because of ''numerous turrets'' doesn't justify  for  the shell has low damage and low penetration resulting in weak salvo per 15 seconds !

 

You better off just play the Mogami 155 (superior to any of these new CLs even against the Yodo) Ibuki or even the Zao which have shorter reload and greater DPM.

 

Seriously what a dissapointment to see these ships i was so excited about getting nerfed in every new ship changes devblog.

 

 

[electro75]

after halloween comes the apocalypse in world of warships.. the clock has started and the disaster is near.. well beaten path wows

[ReDiR20]

1 hour ago, electro75 said:

after halloween comes the apocalypse in world of warships.. the clock has started and the disaster is near.. well beaten path wows

 

you believe in your bul.lshit?

[HMS_Kilinowski]

Concerning unsportsmanship:
I don't understand what has even changed in terms of sanctioning unsportsmanlike conduct. Reads to me like much ado about nothing.

 

So basically unless you leave the football field or shoot at your own goal, you can do everything: Pick your nose for 90 min straight, write text messages on your phone, hit the ball into noman's land whenever you get it, allow an opponent to storm past you without defending, urinate on the field. This game is still a griefer's paradise and a sportsman's nightmare.

 

Concerning IJN CLs:

Are they intentionally designed that sluggish? Whose genius idea was it to give CLs worse maneuverability than CAs? You designed squishy cruisers, whose prime survival strategy is dodging while kiting in open water. And then you hamper them by giving them almost Petropavlovsk maneuverability.

[Venatos]

these new IJN light cruisers seem very weak, maybe the last meganerf before release was a bit much?

[Guest]

World of Early Access

[electro75]

Cred ca cea mai mare durere de la sfarsitul anului pentru mine si multi altii este ranked la nivelul 5 care dureaza pana la jumatatea lui ianuarie.. sa scap de nivelul 5 si sa ajungi la argint cu nivelul 6-7.. cred ca trebuie sa ai sunt un semn foarte norocos.. colegii mei cu care ma joc de cele mai multe ori sunt un dezastru.. de obicei singurul loc de evadare este marginea hartii..

[electro75]

1 hour ago, ReDiR20 said:

 

crezi în prostiile tale?

I think it's not going well

[Viridem]

I suppose that people will be able to get only up to Omono without paying, as usual.

 

It will be rough: Agano is a side-grade (downgrade?) to Yahagi, a pretty horrible ship. Gokase looks the same at tier VI. I don't hold much hope for Tokachi (which will be associated with the much-critisized BP, as an additional negative).

 

Only Omono looks like it might get positive feedback.

 

Add all the current drama from this update (although people will always find something to complain about), and it's like you're trying to scuttle these cruisers before they're even fully launched.

I'll start to believe the memes about Tsushima and WG! XD

[YabbaCoe]

1 hour ago, electro75 said:

Cred ca cea mai mare durere de la sfarsitul anului pentru mine si multi altii este ranked la nivelul 5 care dureaza pana la jumatatea lui ianuarie.. sa scap de nivelul 5 si sa ajungi la argint cu nivelul 6-7.. cred ca trebuie sa ai sunt un semn foarte norocos.. colegii mei cu care ma joc de cele mai multe ori sunt un dezastru.. de obicei singurul loc de evadare este marginea hartii..

Can you please write in English? This is English part of World of Warships forum.

Thank you

[Bollwerk]

8 hours ago, lmperial_Japanese_Navy said:

These IJN CLs are nerfed to crap.

Like why do you ever play these nerfed garbages over the already existing heavy cruisers when they offer nothing new ?

 

15 second to reload 150 mm guns ? For real ? I have seen the Gameplay on Yodo and that thing has 11 sec reload i think for the 18x 150 mm guns and even when they hit you either do no more than 3k or all shells shattered and deal no damage at all ! Imagine the tier 9 and 8 ship with this same gun but 4 second longer reload !?

 

And at the same time the release the Edgar with 12 150mm guns and a 3.2 sec reload.

So at the same time the Yodo puts 18 shells in the air the edgar puts 36 up there and1 second later 12 more.

[YabbaCoe]

I can confirm now, that the update is live! 

[BruceRKF]

19 hours ago, Viridem said:

I suppose that people will be able to get only up to Omono without paying, as usual.

Excellent, since those are the only intersting ones to me. The high tier ones are ugly and made up, as well as possibly bad as well. On the other hand, the mid tiers CLs are somewhat historical, with Agano being a real ship, Gokase a planned improvement on Agano and Omono basically an Oyodo with guns and torpedoes instead of hangars and floatplanes at the rear. And if they are bad, so what.

[Alex_steel_45]

Tier 7 trash ship as a reward for Battle Pass is a stupid Idea, guys.

Permanent premium Camo must be reward or gtfo, honestly.

I'm playing WOT, and just imagine we have tier 7 tank as a reward for this.

Who will play this crap? WOT battle pass let you have  7!!!! tier 9 tanks.

C'mon correct it.

Permanent Premium camo must be. 

 

[TakahashiRyosuke]

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[lmperial_Japanese_Navy]

1 hour ago, BruceRKF said:

Excellent, since those are the only intersting ones to me. The high tier ones are ugly and made up, as well as possibly bad as well. On the other hand, the mid tiers CLs are somewhat historical, with Agano being a real ship, Gokase a planned improvement on Agano and Omono basically an Oyodo with guns and torpedoes instead of hangars and floatplanes at the rear. And if they are bad, so what.

Except for the Agano the rest are made up. 

I have never heard of such thing as improvement to the Agano class, and beside the Agano-class was already one of the newest light cruisers so i don't know why a sub-class with more guns are already being considered in such a short time.

Same with the Omono, never heard of such design, i do love to see the blueprints or historical background for these ships though.

But i don't think they existed even as an idea, especially the fact that WG doesn't provide any historical information about them and only told us how they got their names from, it's a obvious hint that these ships are fictional.

 

But as i said, these light CLs are incredible weak. They looked more promising when WG annouced them on the devblog for the first time when they falsely promised their playerbase for ''long and mid  range'' cruisers.

The Omono was to have a firing range of 17.6 km, Shimanto and Takahashi 18.7 km, and it sounded pretty fair consider their god awful DPM, large turning circle and bad rudder shift time. 

They also had decent HE damage. The Omono had exactly the same gun stats as the Mogami 155 but 2.5 sec longer reload, was one of the ships i was looking forward to because it also looks the best out of all.

 

Now look at these garbage, absoolute joke, what happened to the 17.6 km firing range ? The Omono got sht on with firing range reduced to only 16.1 km, relaod increased to 13 sec and HE damage is lowered to only 2450 and HE pen went from 31 mm down to only 26 mm LMAO

 

If you want the actual good IJN CL, go play the Mogami 155, better than any of these and can easily beat the Yodo at tier 10, it is truly sad.

 

The only ship that avoided all the nerfs and also the only ship that got buffs is.... yeah you guessed it, the Tier 10 one....

Because they want you to spending them cash and skipping all the garbage ships since you can not get them for free in early access.

Once these CLs became researchable, i bet you 100% they will nerf the sht out of that Yodo too. This company is to predictable.

 

Well, i'm not even plan to wasting my time grinding these ships and this is coming from someone that mains IJN and was super hyped for these cruisers.

I rather spend my time in WT and grinding their event for the Strumtiger, screw all of this.

[garfield06061991]

How can it be that this game gets worse with each update? now if there is a division mounted in your clan, you can't mount another, the MM is worse than ever, people who just came to the game with tier 10 and playing against people with 30,000 battles. That is, if the doubloons of the battle pass go well, there are never any failures in that, everything that is getting money does not fail, the player's experience in the game fails, which is the least important thing for WG. Big garbage update.

[BruceRKF]

51 minutes ago, lmperial_Japanese_Navy said:

Except for the Agano the rest are made up. 

I have never heard of such thing as improvement to the Agano class, and beside the Agano-class was already one of the newest light cruisers so i don't know why a sub-class with more guns are already being considered in such a short time.

"The Kai-agano (also nown as C-44) Class Light Cruisers:

This class of light cruisers was designed in may 1941 for the Dai-Go-Ji Kaigun Gunbi Hojū Keikaku or Fifth Naval Armaments Supplement Program (also known as Maru 5 Keikaku or Circle Five Program) was an improved version of the agano-class, the hull was lenghtened by over 12 meters to a total lenght of 186,5 in order to fit a fourth 150mm (6-inch) twin turret aft of the mainmast, heavy anti-aicraft armament was to be composed of eight 80mm type 98 guns in four twin mounts fitted abaft the funnel; part of the hull lenghtening was also used to fit more powerful engines in order to mantain a top speed of 35 knots despite the increase of displacement, thus the funnel was also larger than the one of the standard Agano class.
Five ships (with hulls numbered from 810 to 814) where ordered in 1941, with other two (numbered 5037 and 5038) added in september 1942 under the Wartime Warship Construction Replenishment Program (Kai-Maru 5 Keikaku or Modified Circle Five Program) but eventually none of them was ever laid down neither recieved a name."

 

As for the Omono: Look at the (historical) cruiser Oyodo and then just imagine the floatplane hangars and the catapults at the back replaced by guns and you get Omono. Not saying that it's a historical ship, but WG took about 3/4 of a historical ship as a basis, at least. Helpfully, someone made an overlay picture of Oyodo and Omono: