Battlepass

[Hades_warrior]

7 hours ago, Corpsetaker said:

Hello,

 

Looks to me like because of the decline in the player base numbers, most likely due to submarines, they are ramping up the monetisation in order to reclaim any lost revenue. 

Good call for them, to milk harder players that are still around and are about to leave.

They want to milk more and those before leaving.

[SurfaceFish]

I'm still around, got enough premium ships and T3/T4 boosters from last Xmas containers whaling. Not give any more money to WG as I lost interest in random due to constantly blow out matches. 

 

For me, it took over 6 months as a new player before I decided to spent money on my 1st premium ship (prinz eugen) and premium time. 

 

IMO WG is making it harder to retaining new players (future whales) with more and more push to remove rewards for f2p players. If you remove baits, then you can't hook whales. 

[KruppStahl14]

I used to buy prem time on christmas discount. Which was ~40€ every year from me. Now they downgrade prem time with the battlepass. They charge us for ANOTHER kinda premium thing.

I play another game sometimes which also got a battlepass included. But its a BP where you can get everything without spending money by just playing the game. Spending money only speeds up the process there and its really cheap.

But here we have further completely aggressive monetization of the game... Now i have enough of this. No more money from me if the BP gets included as it is on the test server right now, which is insulting.

Have fun hunting your whales, WG. But its sad how you absolutely ruin this game for it.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

I will just continue to take all the free stuff I will get by playing. Have Zero interest in giving any more money to WG for some in game trinkets that have less and less value. But guess its a cool new thing for whales, gambling addicts and people who throw money at stuff. Maybe it will pay for the development of that new unbalanced class of mine bearing dolphins coming in ..... 2023? The class the silent majority has asked for since 2015!

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

I will just continue to take all the free stuff I will get by playing. Have Zero interest in giving any more money to WG for some in game trinkets that have less and less value. But guess its a cool new thing for whales, gambling addicts and people who throw money at stuff. Maybe it will pay for the development of that new unbalanced class of mine bearing dolphins coming in ..... 2023? The class the silent majority has asked for since 2015!

 

I'm hoping that the next much asked for class they will add to the game will be Islands. Then I can steer myself in the way of everyone else and watch them collide into my Island.

[Hogger4169]

OK, let's say that i buy a battlepass.

What do you have to give me as a gaming developer? Better gaming experience? Better matchmaker? Bug free gunnery? No desync issues?, Balanced ships? Less rng to affect the game?

WHAT?

 

I guess is a big NO to all the questions i asked above, so no money from me. 

Improve the game, fix the bugs and then ask for money, now it is called INSOLENCE and it is a bad one...

 

[Dutchy_2019]

On 10/14/2022 at 8:45 AM, RuneSlayers said:

Battlepass (in the free version) is a huge nerv on the rewards as you can see. 

This has nothing to do with the promise, the players would get all the rewards as with the daily, weekly and monthly missions. 

 

THIS IS PTS:

 

The rewards (just as the requirements) in PTS for these kinds of things have rarely if EVER been the same as on the live server, usually coming not even close. PTS is used to see/test of the mechanism of the BattlePass is working, or if there are bugs in there. The rewards (just as the requirements) are placeholders.

 

[Yedwy]

29 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

THIS IS PTS:

 

The rewards (just as the requirements) in PTS for these kinds of things have rarely if EVER been the same as on the live server, usually coming not even close. PTS is used to see/test of the mechanism of the BattlePass is working, or if there are bugs in there. The rewards (just as the requirements) are placeholders.

 

Yeah we ll see wont we

[Dutchy_2019]

2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Yeah we ll see wont we

 

Indeed, we will see.

 

We have the public statements that the final rewards for playing the Free Battle Pass will be identical to what will be replaced by the Battle Pass, and go from there. If they are not, you know WG will be taken to task by the forums and everyone else. It is the outrage over PTS placeholders that will only serve to get us the opposite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RuneSlayers]

Vor 27 Minuten, Dutchy_2019 sagte:

 

Indeed, we will see.

 

We have the public statements that the final rewards for playing the Free Battle Pass will be identical to what will be replaced by the Battle Pass, and go from there. If they are not, you know WG will be taken to task by the forums and everyone else. It is the outrage over PTS placeholders that will only serve to get us the opposite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Das hoffen wir, wirklich. Allerdings, im Warships-Stream am Donnerstag als der BP vorgestellt wurde sagte Sera das: Geh zu 00:55:55

Diese Aussage, dass die gezeigten Belohnungen seines Wissens nach fix seien hat den ganzen Aufstand leider zusätzlich mit verursacht. Zwar wurde im Laufe des Streams an anderen Stellen immer wieder betont, die Belohnungen wären die selben, die es auch jetzt mit den täglichen, wöchentlichen und monatlichen Missionen gibt (genau wie auch im DevBlog dazu, den Newsartikeln) , aber das gezeigte Material im Stream und auf dem Testserver und die Aussage auf Nachfrage, die gezeigten Belohnungen seien bereits fix, haben zumindest generell vorhandene Zweifel und Misstrauen geweckt und befeuert.

 

Wie gesagt, löst sich das ganze am nächsten Patchday in Wohlgefallen auf, weil die Ankündigungen auch tatsächlich 1:1 umgesetzt werden, alles wunderbar. Aufgrund der Erfahrungen in der Vergangenheit mit diversen Ankündigungen und Versprechungen und Kommunikationsfehlern im Vorfeld, behalten sich viele eben eine gesunde Skepsis. Wir haben aus den ersten Reaktionen von WG zu diesem aktuellen Thema bereits die Rückmeldung bekommen, das die Spieler hier sehr genau hinschauen werden, wie das ganze dann letztlich vom Testserver auf den Liveserver kommt und WG sich dessen bewusst ist. Nun ist WG am Zuge bis zum Pachday die aktuellen Werte des BP auf dem Testserver für den Liveserver entsprechend "anzupassen". 

 

In diesem Sinne, ich finde die "Rückmeldungen" die WG hier gegeben wurde richtig, einfach auf Grund früherer negativer Erfahrungen. WG darf und soll ruhig wissen, dass hier Unsicherheit und auch eine gehörige Portion über die Jahre gewachsenes Misstrauen da ist und das so etwas sehr sehr schnell bemerkt werden wird. 

 

 

Edit

 

Ups...sry^^

Wrong thread, wrong language 

[Dutchy_2019]

19 minutes ago, RuneSlayers said:

Das hoffen wir, wirklich. Allerdings, im Warships-Stream am Donnerstag als der BP vorgestellt wurde sagte Sera das: Geh zu 00:55:55

Diese Aussage, dass die gezeigten Belohnungen seines Wissens nach fix seien hat den ganzen Aufstand leider zusätzlich mit verursacht. Zwar wurde im Laufe des Streams an anderen Stellen immer wieder betont, die Belohnungen wären die selben, die es auch jetzt mit den täglichen, wöchentlichen und monatlichen Missionen gibt (genau wie auch im DevBlog dazu, den Newsartikeln) , aber das gezeigte Material im Stream und auf dem Testserver und die Aussage auf Nachfrage, die gezeigten Belohnungen seien bereits fix, haben zumindest generell vorhandene Zweifel und Misstrauen geweckt und befeuert.

 

Wie gesagt, löst sich das ganze am nächsten Patchday in Wohlgefallen auf, weil die Ankündigungen auch tatsächlich 1:1 umgesetzt werden, alles wunderbar. Aufgrund der Erfahrungen in der Vergangenheit mit diversen Ankündigungen und Versprechungen und Kommunikationsfehlern im Vorfeld, behalten sich viele eben eine gesunde Skepsis. Wir haben aus den ersten Reaktionen von WG zu diesem aktuellen Thema bereits die Rückmeldung bekommen, das die Spieler hier sehr genau hinschauen werden, wie das ganze dann letztlich vom Testserver auf den Liveserver kommt und WG sich dessen bewusst ist. Nun ist WG am Zuge bis zum Pachday die aktuellen Werte des BP auf dem Testserver für den Liveserver entsprechend "anzupassen". 

 

In diesem Sinne, ich finde die "Rückmeldungen" die WG hier gegeben wurde richtig, einfach auf Grund früherer negativer Erfahrungen. WG darf und soll ruhig wissen, dass hier Unsicherheit und auch eine gehörige Portion über die Jahre gewachsenes Misstrauen da ist und das so etwas sehr sehr schnell bemerkt werden wird. 

 

 

Edit

 

Ups...sry^^

Wrong thread, wrong language 

 

Exactly - WG has earned quite a bit of distrust here....

 

But the indigniation now shown because of some place-holders on PTS is only fuel to the argument by WG and others that "we simply do not like change, and that therefore our arguments are based only on our unwillingness to change (and ignorance)", which is so often employed in far more important topics, like for instance submarines by both WG and proponents of submarines (for instance).

[Yedwy]

48 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

. If they are not, you know WG will be taken to task by the forums and everyone else. It is the outrage over PTS placeholders that will only serve to get us the opposite

Oh no, they are shaking in fear right now m8, dont forget we are all just a vocal minority, we can consider ourselves lucky WG even pays a CM to pacify us let alone several of those, we are irrelevant and since it takes this long to “check” I think we can safely assume the BP will look EXACTLY like on PTS

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

From NA forum:

 

"Quick look at the upcoming battle pass"

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/260277-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-battle-pass/

 

 

 

And "Ashkance " (WG NA) confirmed:

 

Quote

 

These Doubloons costs look correct.  There are three tracks:

• Free Track - Freely Available Rewards
• 2500 Doubloons - Additional Rewards as you would expect for spending Doubloons
• 6250 Doubloons - Additional QoL Benefits/Bonuses

The largest version provides some benefits which can be seen in the above photo.  The "Battle Pass Missions: 1" references an additional mission that a player can complete to get Battlepass progress.  It's not needed for completion of the reward track, but it can help players who'se game interaction is more sporadic.

 

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Guest]

Let's wait for their reveal or confirmation of the (real) pass rewards, hopefully on monday...

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

So this is basically premium time reinvented?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

4 minutes ago, Europizza said:

So this is basically premium time reinvented?

 

Uhm.. not sure, BP does not seem to give a direct XP and credit bonus. So for full benefits you will still be needing both.

[endlessBoogie]

Vor 22 Minuten, Karasu_Hidesuke sagte:

Vor 27 Minuten, Europizza sagte:

So this is basically premium time reinvented?

 

Uhm.. not sure, BP does not seem to give a direct XP and credit bonus. So for full benefits you will still be needing both.

[Stockensprotz]

Vor 23 Minuten, Europizza sagte:

So this is basically premium time reinvented?

No, its "the fear of missing out" bundled for dubs to make players play more while at the same time getting their money. With the little twist of the money being converted to monopoly currency first, so players have difficulty parsing that it is actual money.

 

Because that is easier than making the game more fun which would also make players play more by itself and probably boost sales (there are many franchises out there who have done exactly that). But fun is hard work and thinking about the effects of stuff while psychological tricks just work. (Especially on a playerbase that tells itself all the time it does not fall for psychological tricks.)

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

35 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Uhm.. not sure, BP does not seem to give a direct XP and credit bonus. So for full benefits you will still be needing both.

By premium time reinvented I mean purchasing enhanced grind speed at, what I can only assume, greater cost. By purchsing bonuses directly (premium time) or indirectly by buying into an elaborate scheme (BP), same difference.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

12 minutes ago, Europizza said:

By premium time reinvented I mean purchasing enhanced grind speed at, what I can only assume, greater cost. By purchsing bonuses directly (premium time) or indirectly by buying into an elaborate scheme (BP), same difference.

 

Well, in a sense this is an improvement for those players who wish to play occasionally, as they can buy the BP to farm those bonuses and use them when it's convenient.

[Yedwy]

15 minutes ago, Stockensprotz said:

while psychological tricks just work. (Especially on a playerbase that tells itself all the time it does not fall for psychological tricks.)

True, for me (which have investr HEAVILY in this game over the years) hoverver the current gameplay is so unaplealing I not only dont intend to give them any money (which I would otherwise if only to reduce the annoyance of grids and stuff) but I barely have any incentive to play, normal PvP is trash both in Randoms and Ranked, I largley play coop, ops (when not locked like now) or CB and grind only as much as I need to hav stuff ready for the said...

[Captain_82]

10 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

True, for me (which have investr HEAVILY in this game over the years) hoverver the current gameplay is so unaplealing I not only dont intend to give them any money (which I would otherwise if only to reduce the annoyance of grids and stuff) but I barely have any incentive to play

 

Same here.

 

Scored another defeat in the current Halloween-Ops/played one Brawl (victory) after that. Closed the game.

I could barely motivate myself to play the Ops and Brawl especially.

 

Although Sunray in the Darkness was fun in the beginning, it just feels repetitive and tedious now.

[Cammo1962]

10 hours ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

THIS IS PTS:

 

The rewards (just as the requirements) in PTS for these kinds of things have rarely if EVER been the same as on the live server, usually coming not even close. PTS is used to see/test of the mechanism of the BattlePass is working, or if there are bugs in there. The rewards (just as the requirements) are placeholders.

 

Well @Dutchy_2019 Seraphice himself confirmed on the EU stream Thursday that the BP on the PTS will be the same on the live server and yesterday someone on Reddit pointed out that we (the playerbase) are loosing out on a lot of things aka nerfed.

[Bear__Necessities]

I'm sure WG said they were not going to monetise free resources? I may be wrong on that. But they are CERTAINLY doing it with this...

[Jvd2000]

Only moderated interested. I purposefully picked the doubloon reward for the PR so I don’t have to invest real money into the game for a long time. Together with 10k D from the anniversary I am sitting on a comfortable 40k which I intend to use sparsely without falling into rng gambling. So when a random drop shows a premium ship or another suitable fixed reward worthwhile or as an entry fee for a DY event whether grind is doable this 40k will be used. And it will last me enough time to keep playing this game picking events frugal.

 

In that vein 2.5k D for a T7 premium ship plus additional goodies looks ok. If there is a good insight of what the grind is going to be. So if I get a good and true insight what kind of grind I have to do AND I find it reasonable achievable I might bite the bullet.