Battlepass

[Karasu_Browarszky]

4 minutes ago, Corpsetaker said:

Hello,

 

Looks to me like because of the decline in the player base numbers, most likely due to submarines, they are ramping up the monetisation in order to reclaim any lost revenue. 

 

That will end well.

[________________Morrison]

8 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

That will end well.

Always did, past records show there is no real proof of evidence that heavy monitization causes backlash. It's all a lie

[Corpsetaker]

10 minutes ago, Schijnheilig said:

Always did, past records show there is no real proof of evidence that heavy monitization causes backlash. It's all a lie

Hello,

 

Really great sarcasm there. I almost believed you were being serious.

[Seraphice]

1 hour ago, RuneSlayers said:

Even Sera confirmd only yesterday just some hours before the yesterday stream: What we get should in any case not be lower then previously!

 

Well, it IS much much lower, as we can see at the moment. 

 

 

We're currently looking into the situation regarding the rewards and we'll let you know once we have an update.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[RuneSlayers]

Gerade eben, Seraphice sagte:

We're currently looking into the situation regarding the rewards and we'll let you know once we have an update.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

Thanks for your reaction. We will see.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

How are you suprised about this?

[RuneSlayers]

Vor 16 Minuten, AtaIante sagte:

How are you suprised about this?

Sadly I am not.

 

That's why I try to ask for more details to the new BP since days. But no answer or only the all known statements at least from Sera, that we will get the same rewards as before. 

 

Then the yesterday stream came out and here we are.

[Yedwy]

47 minutes ago, Corpsetaker said:

Hello,

 

Looks to me like because of the decline in the player base numbers, most likely due to submarines, they are ramping up the monetisation in order to reclaim any lost revenue. 

Mhm, how else will one explain to the stakeholders that you have less income after the great strategic project that supposed to boost it in the orbit was just completed… I expect an obligatory subscription will be next step ^^

[________________Morrison]

31 minutes ago, Corpsetaker said:

Hello,

 

Really great sarcasm there. I almost believed you were being serious.

I only speak  corrupted truth. There's no truth in sarcasm only lies.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

41 minutes ago, Schijnheilig said:

Always did, past records show there is no real proof of evidence that heavy monitization causes backlash. It's all a lie

 

To a point, that point being new player attraction, since they don't seem concerned over player retention their barge will stay afloat as long as new people and fresh cash keep coming in. I'm a little surprised how they are doing it, since WoWS was always a 'niche' game compared to WoT. WoWS is also not anywhere near as fast paced in terms of action to attract the same kind of people who go for games offering more 'hectic' gameplay experiences.

[ScruffyNoob]

8 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Mhm, how else will one explain to the stakeholders that you have less income after the great strategic project that supposed to boost it in the orbit was just completed… I expect an obligatory subscription will be next step ^^

I don't know - obligatory subscription just will not cut it.

 

Perhaps WG should consult with the (former?) employee of PayPal who thought up the $2500 fine system. That sure went over well.

 

Sarcasm mode disengaged.

[Montrala]

52 minuty temu, Seraphice napisał:

We're currently looking into the situation regarding the rewards and we'll let you know once we have an update.

 

Are you telling us that nobody at Wargaming checked how battlepass compared to existing system and you were using made up misinformation  for your customers that we will have "all the rewards" as before? Only now, when customers call out a scam, Wargaming is "looking into the situation". Did I understand this correctly?

[Corpsetaker]

14 minutes ago, Montrala said:

 

Are you telling us that nobody at Wargaming checked how battlepass compared to existing system and you were using made up misinformation  for your customers that we will have "all the rewards" as before? Only now, when customers call out a scam, Wargaming is "looking into the situation". Did I understand this correctly?

Hello,

 

[Guest]

Imagine the workflow: Devs monetize the game more and more with shady hidden reductions and mechanics, but tell CM staff "It is all the same, don't worry". Like several times already. Then players activate rage mode and staff gets all the flak. I think I would quit within a week, realizing what a fiesta WG employment is. Hilarious!

[Shaka_D]

20 minutes ago, Montrala said:

 

Are you telling us that nobody at Wargaming checked how battlepass compared to existing system and you were using made up misinformation  for your customers that we will have "all the rewards" as before? Only now, when customers call out a scam, Wargaming is "looking into the situation". Did I understand this correctly?

I think they have a reputation of doing first based on greed and only thereafter thinking of the consequences? Must be true, because the net effect of this is a bad reputation, and they have this with bells on.

[hgbn_dk]

What else is new in WG world? How would anyone even be surprised?

[endlessBoogie]

Vor 20 Minuten, Montrala sagte:

Are you telling us that nobody at Wargaming checked how battlepass compared to existing system and you were using made up misinformation  for your customers that we will have "all the rewards" as before? Only now, when customers call out a scam, Wargaming is "looking into the situation". Did I understand this correctly?

[RAYvenMP]

3 hours ago, RuneSlayers said:

Battlepass (in the free version) is a huge nerv on the rewards as you can see. 

This has nothing to do with the promise, the players would get all the rewards as with the daily, weekly and monthly missions. 

there is a catch tho and rather big one. You HAVE to login and play 10+ games every single day to get all the rewards now, with the battle pass people can get all by, lets say, playin during weekends. I would argue there are not that many ppl playing the game every day (me included), so the BP will turn out better and easier.

Both are free, one offer an option of paid upgrade for extras. I don't see a problem, I actually think its great change. But long live the drama anyway, show must go on.

[MixuS]

3 hours ago, quickr said:

From the start wows was waaay too generous for a F2P game.

This argument pops up every now and then, and of course you can have that opinion, no problem. Yet I can name a couple very popular F2P games that I would argue are way, way more generous: Azur Lane and Genshin Impact. While I definitely haven't played Genshin Impact enough to have any clue on end game monetization, process so far has demanded 0 money from me. Azur Lane however, I think I have played enough to have a valid opinion on. I have so far bought only a starter pack that If I recall correctly costs around 10€. After that I have had 0 need to buy anything. Everything I have needed the premium currency for (mainly port slots) I have paid with currency I've gotten for free. Only thing you need money for is if you want certain skins or want to marry every shipgirl there is (which I don't need to do). Yet as far as I know both of those games are huge financial success stories. I wonder why is that?

[quickr]

21 minutes ago, RAYvenMP said:

there is a catch tho and rather big one. You HAVE to login and play 10+ games every single day to get all the rewards now, with the battle pass people can get all by, lets say, playin during weekends. I would argue there are not that many ppl playing the game every day (me included), so the BP will turn out better and easier.

This is a good point.

 

1 minute ago, MixuS said:

you can have that opinion, no problem

Thank you for allowing it.

2 minutes ago, MixuS said:

Azur Lane and Genshin Impact

Not a weebo, don't play them. I compared WOWS with another WG title, which is a much fairer comparison in my opinion. And WOWS is miles, at least was, infront of WOT.

 

Theres a game I play called Apex legends. Which also has a battle pass. In Apex legends if you buy a premium battle pass, through 100 levels you can earn enough premium credits to unlock next season battle pass. And so on on so on. In essence, if you are active enough you only need to buy first BP season, every next one is free. THAT is a generous offer but I can hardly compare WG with Respawn interactive.

 

 

3 minutes ago, MixuS said:

process so far has demanded 0 money from me

You can play WOWS with 0 money invested as well. Something I do on my NA acc on which i have premium ships, premium days and doubloons even tho I never spent a penny.

 

 

 

 

[Gulag_Knife_Frenzy]

2 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Does it look like grinding will become slower without BP, and high tier games less sustainable without some form of premium, either ship or account?

 

I hope it isn't - I quit playing for a couple of years because I was Free Player and it felt like I was being punished for wanting to rank up & use high tier ships.

 

I've got some premium time at the moment but II probably won't get any more b/c they've stopped Random Operations for a month (which I really enjoyed) so I feel like I've wasted money.

 

This isn't the way to encourage people to play the game and open their wallets from time to time imo.

[MixuS]

18 minutes ago, quickr said:

Not a weebo, don't play them. I compared WOWS with another WG title, which is a much fairer comparison in my opinion. And WOWS is miles, at least was, infront of WOT.

"At least it's not as bad as World of Tanks" does not really make it generous. Setting the bar by just their other products, or even when including only sort-of-competing products from other developers like Gaijin, just let's WG off too easy. That being said, I'm sure there are also plenty of examples of much worse monetization.

[Corpsetaker]

3 minutes ago, MixuS said:

"At least it's not as bad as World of Tanks" does not really make it generous.

Hello,

 

At least in World of Tanks when you buy their premium Battle Pass you get a certain number of gold per day that you can either keep or use to move up a notch on the battle pass. Not to mention you get a Commander and 3D camo for certain tanks every time you complete a section. 

[Corpsetaker]

4 hours ago, quickr said:

I'm not pleased with subs, cvs, early access ships locked behind pay wall, consistent bugs that are not being fixed, the way WG treats community....... I'm not pleased with many things WG does. But battle pass is ok with me. You don't want to pay? Ok, don't pay. Nothing changes for those that are playing WOWS as a F2P game. But if whales want to pump even more money into WOWS, let them. I don't care.

 

Could battle pass be more generous? Probably, yeah. But like I said, it doesn't bother me at all.

Hello,

 

I would like to remind you that without people paying real money you would have no World of Warships to even play. Also I think the customer base is extremely generous in their monetary contributions to this game so Wargaming could at least return the favour. 

[SurfaceFish]

I don't have PT installed, do we still get the 3 daily containers?

 

I'm not surprised we are getting credits and signal flags nerf. WG has been going at this direction since achievements flag removal.