[RUMR] bouncer8409 Players 463 posts 31,481 battles Report post #1 Posted October 14, 2022 So the battlepass is on PTS ! WG please take your super aggressive monetization and stick it where your idiotic CV rework and Subs came from. Disgusting and I for one will NOT be giving you ANY cash. It would appear that greed and gluttony are WG standards. 12 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted October 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, bouncer8409 said: So the battlepass is on PTS ! WG please take your super aggressive monetization and stick it where your idiotic CV rework and Subs came from. Disgusting and I for one will NOT be giving you ANY cash. It would appear that greed and gluttony are WG standards. Battlepass is optional, one can just ignore the paying aspect of it and it adds the benefit that one can buy in later should the wanted goal be reached... The concept of battlepass is not that bad per se esp if the daily logins are not needed to progress and its point based instead, its better then the current daily prize system in which if you miss couple there is no way to get the SC at the end anymore... In general terms WOWS marketing guys obviously "graduated" on mobile games and they do what they know - they market shortcuts to ease frustration and daily/battlepass based morsel trickle to give stuff but not 2 much, just enough so players start to want the stuff and then go buy it in largery quantities... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #3 Posted October 14, 2022 Just give it a pass. 3 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TALOS] Hogger4169 Players 316 posts 8,317 battles Report post #4 Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: Just give it a pass. Served!!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #5 Posted October 14, 2022 I'm not pleased with subs, cvs, early access ships locked behind pay wall, consistent bugs that are not being fixed, the way WG treats community....... I'm not pleased with many things WG does. But battle pass is ok with me. You don't want to pay? Ok, don't pay. Nothing changes for those that are playing WOWS as a F2P game. But if whales want to pump even more money into WOWS, let them. I don't care. Could battle pass be more generous? Probably, yeah. But like I said, it doesn't bother me at all. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] Mamba_ZA Players 67 posts 15,234 battles Report post #6 Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, bouncer8409 said: So the battlepass is on PTS ! WG please take your super aggressive monetization and stick it where your idiotic CV rework and Subs came from. Disgusting and I for one will NOT be giving you ANY cash. It would appear that greed and gluttony are WG standards. Yup agreed, hard pass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evil_communist_from_ussr Players 111 posts 39,703 battles Report post #7 Posted October 14, 2022 You can pay without any problem. oh sorry, why? 90% of random fights are incomprehensible 12-0 turbo fights and their variations. Few are willing to pay for this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ILDET] Juuzaam Players 136 posts 8,856 battles Report post #8 Posted October 14, 2022 Vor 1 Stunde, Yedwy sagte: Battlepass is optional, one can just ignore the paying aspect of it and it adds the benefit that one can buy in later should the wanted goal be reached... The concept of battlepass is not that bad per se esp if the daily logins are not needed to progress and its point based instead, its better then the current daily prize system in which if you miss couple there is no way to get the SC at the end anymore... We can compare things and each of us can come to its own conclusion. My already stands, the BP is beyond bad. First things first, BP replaces the current daily/weekly missions. We get slightly more coal, RB & steel. But lose an estimated amount of 25M worth of flags, also boosters become way less common. This is another hit on the credit economy. Further details on Reddit I will just repeat this, the amount of flags we used to get, will gone. Boosters, will be greys. It gets worse, the progress will be linked two 2 mission chains. With the battlepass it will be four. We might not finish this without the BP. There are 2 layers of BP, we got a regualr and premium, super whale one. The current reward in the end is the upcoming tech tree, tier VII IJN cruiser (afaik). I just want to remind you, that we used to get super awesome premiums like Benham from events, Tier 9 Premiums. At some point weegee shifted to tier 6-7 premiums, like London/Dido. Later they went into perma camos or now boosters for upcoming tech tree ships. Now even these are hidden behind a paywall. Another nerf. The BP is just worse than expected. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorthyOpponent Players 687 posts 5,439 battles Report post #9 Posted October 14, 2022 So far until now Dockyard used to be WG's version of a battle pass and it was very nice in practice. I hope WG doesn't try replacing dockyards. Otherwise the "it doesn't affect you" argument goes out the window. Also I think dismissing the red flags as "you don't have to get it" is just lazy. Did the christmas scam affect you until you bought some? Did the CC exodus give you guys some kind of a disadvantage? Saving Transylvania as an event is still an event, so because it exists and gives some rewards are we not to criticize WG for doing a lackluster event? You better believe this battlepass is going to be permanent and it's going to suck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D3LTA] RuneSlayers Players 2,528 posts Report post #10 Posted October 14, 2022 Vor 14 Stunden, Aragathor sagte: That same thing was said during the economy rework. And now we get much less economy boosters than previously. So the free stuff will get nerfed, thanks for the confirmation. And here's proof: Battlepass (in the free version) is a huge nerv on the rewards as you can see. This has nothing to do with the promise, the players would get all the rewards as with the daily, weekly and monthly missions. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #11 Posted October 14, 2022 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #12 Posted October 14, 2022 Battlepass "issue" Is blown out of proportion. From the start wows was waaay too generous for a F2P game. Over the years we got so many good free stuff, it's ridiculous. Just compare it to WOT, where you even loose credits if you play anything above tier 6. Obviously WG is losing profit on WOWS since player numbers are dwindling. I just wish they address the issue of why they are losing money instead on more ways to milk the player base. Or maybe battle pass is just WG way of drawing our attention away from subs. 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D3LTA] RuneSlayers Players 2,528 posts Report post #13 Posted October 14, 2022 Vor 16 Stunden, Seraphice sagte: This is not relevant since the battlepass is done on a patch basis, not a monthly basis. So while patches generally are around a month, the fact that some months are longer/shorter is not relevant in this case. we will have to see for the specifics of this, but what you get should in any case not be lower than previously. Will check what happens if a patch lasts 5 months instead of the usual 4. Though my guess is that the missions will continue as usual and if you completed the battlepass already you will continue to receive the compensation for additional BP points. Fair seas captain! ~Sera Even Sera confirmd only yesterday just some hours before the yesterday stream: What we get should in any case not be lower then previously! Well, it IS much much lower, as we can see at the moment. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D3LTA] RuneSlayers Players 2,528 posts Report post #14 Posted October 14, 2022 Vor 6 Minuten, quickr sagte: Battlepass "issue" Is blown out of proportion. From the start wows was waaay too generous for a F2P game. Over the years we got so many good free stuff, it's ridiculous. Just compare it to WOT, where you even loose credits if you play anything above tier 6. Obviously WG is losing profit on WOWS since player numbers are dwindling. I just wish they address the issue of why they are losing money instead on more ways to milk the player base. Or maybe battle pass is just WG way of drawing our attention away from subs. This may bei correct. There are indeed lots of free stuff. But the problem is that WG announced that there will be no nervs. In the regarding DevBlog, in the newsarticle, even see Seras post...WG promised before players would get all the free rewards they got until now with the daily, weekly and montly missions. That is not correct. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,343 battles Report post #15 Posted October 14, 2022 Looks like I can earn some steel while playing coop. That's ok for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] endlessBoogie [_I_] Players 270 posts 12,752 battles Report post #16 Posted October 14, 2022 Vor 17 Minuten, quickr sagte: Obviously WG is losing profit on WOWS since player numbers are dwindling. we need more lootboxes .... more looboxes = more players 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #17 Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, endlessBoogie said: we need more lootboxes .... more looboxes = more players Didn't know you can get players in lootboxes 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEUS] Purnylla [GEUS] Players 1,105 posts 25,180 battles Report post #18 Posted October 14, 2022 Hard to judge the battle pass without really knowing what you'd need to do to complete it. Currently I'm always able to complete the monthly mission chain before the month ends, but no clue if the Battle Pass is any harder to complete. I might decide to spend doubloons on purchasing the premium pass once I've completed the free chain, so at least I know what I'm getting for my money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obidav Players 152 posts 19,861 battles Report post #19 Posted October 14, 2022 Must be a miscommunication as usual.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #20 Posted October 14, 2022 53 minutes ago, Juuzaam said: We can compare things and each of us can come to its own conclusion. My already stands, the BP is beyond bad. First things first, BP replaces the current daily/weekly missions. We get slightly more coal, RB & steel. But lose an estimated amount of 25M worth of flags, also boosters become way less common. This is another hit on the credit economy. Further details on Reddit I will just repeat this, the amount of flags we used to get, will gone. Boosters, will be greys. It gets worse, the progress will be linked two 2 mission chains. With the battlepass it will be four. We might not finish this without the BP. There are 2 layers of BP, we got a regualr and premium, super whale one. The current reward in the end is the upcoming tech tree, tier VII IJN cruiser (afaik). I just want to remind you, that we used to get super awesome premiums like Benham from events, Tier 9 Premiums. At some point weegee shifted to tier 6-7 premiums, like London/Dido. Later they went into perma camos or now boosters for upcoming tech tree ships. Now even these are hidden behind a paywall. Another nerf. The BP is just worse than expected. None of which is related to BP as a mechanic m8, WG will be WG and ofc always looks to give less when they change something, then again they are doing what certains CCs were demanding for years and got supported by many members of forum - give less free stuff… Well here it is folks, hope you enjoy, oh wait all of you already jumped ship to some other game, nevermind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,756 battles Report post #22 Posted October 14, 2022 Obviously not everything is final yet, however from what I saw in Flamu's video the 3 levels of battle pass seem really excessive. Playing both WoT and WarThunder occasionally I am quite experienced with the concept of battle passes, so in the end the real value of the WoWs battle pass will lie in its output. And just for comparison: WoT battle pass is something around 23 Euros (best done with real money), WoWs premium battle pass clocks in at around 6250 doubloons, which should be somewhere around 21 Euros, WarThunder's premium battle pass is around 16 to 17 Euros, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #23 Posted October 14, 2022 Does it look like grinding will become slower without BP, and high tier games less sustainable without some form of premium, either ship or account? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ∞ Guest 0 posts Report post #24 Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Does it look like grinding will become slower without BP, and high tier games less sustainable without some form of premium, either ship or account? If the PTS rewards are final, economy (credits, flags, boosters) will be nerfed a lot again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corpsetaker Players 225 posts 372 battles Report post #25 Posted October 14, 2022 Hello, Looks to me like because of the decline in the player base numbers, most likely due to submarines, they are ramping up the monetisation in order to reclaim any lost revenue. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites