So, the Malta is coming...

[Varian_Dorn]

... a nice new T10 carrier that I´ve been looking forward to eve since I saw its announcement. So, you may ask, why this thread now? 

 

Ah, it seems Malta will release on or around the 14th, aka in two days. The ship has been announced to be available for coal and I´m delighted to hear that this too is true... at a DELAY. 

 

Wargaming apparently decided to release Malta on friday for doubloons / money FIRST, then release her for the promised currency coal TWO WEEKS LATER. As if the already questionable pricing and semi-gambling wouldn´t be, shall we say, hard to bear at times... now, once again, they do a cheap FOMO* pull on this new ship.

 

@Seraphice Would you kindly tell us, if you know and are at liberty to do so, why the Malta is not immediately available for coal as well? Why the delay? Its not like the majority of players has the roughly 260k coal just stashed like its nothing, so some will go for doubloons / money anyway, be it because they dont have the coal or because they wanna save it for something else.

Why do you guys want us so badly to spend money? Again, its not like some of us dont spend anyway. The scheme at work here is what slightly angers me.

 

I´d welcome at least a short reply - I promise I won´t grill you, I know you don´t make the decisions behind this

 

 

*FOMO = Fear Of Missing Out, a much criticized tactic of companies to get customers to spend money by making even "normal" things rarer or harder to get at first, playing on emotion and lack of self control; aka abuse of those who want the sparklies rather sooner than later. Sadly not all of those people do have the money required for such an urge, meaning some go into deep debt.

And yes, I know, the use of this concept by WG is nothing new by now - however the fact that they now split up an individual release over time to get more money is something they only started doing a while ago.

 

 

Oh, and by the way: anyone who just wants to get snarky can fobb off right away. This topic is not another opportunity for some of you to sh** on cvs in general, this is about the marketing strategy once again at work here.

[El2aZeR]

6 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said:

Why the delay?

 

Money. Why else?

[Seraphice]

5 minutes ago, Varian_Dorn said:

... a nice new T10 carrier that I´ve been looking forward to eve since I saw its announcement. So, you may ask, why this thread now? 

 

Ah, it seems Malta will release on or around the 14th, aka in two days. The ship has been announced to be available for coal and I´m delighted to hear that this too is true... at a DELAY. 

 

Wargaming apparently decided to release Malta on friday for doubloons / money FIRST, then release her for the promised currency coal TWO WEEKS LATER. As if the already questionable pricing and semi-gambling wouldn´t be, shall we say, hard to bear at times... now, once again, they do a cheap FOMO* pull on this new ship.

 

@Seraphice Would you kindly tell us, if you know and are at liberty to do so, why the Malta is not immediately available for coal as well? Why the delay? Its not like the majority of players has the roughly 260k coal just stashed like its nothing, so some will go for doubloons / money anyway, be it because they dont have the coal or because they wanna save it for something else.

Why do you guys want us so badly to spend money? Again, its not like some of us dont spend anyway. The scheme at work here is what slightly angers me.

 

I´d welcome at least a short reply - I promise I won´t grill you, I know you don´t make the decisions behind this

 

 

*FOMO = Fear Of Missing Out, a much criticized tactic of companies to get customers to spend money by making even "normal" things rarer or harder to get at first, playing on emotion and lack of self control; aka abuse of those who want the sparklies rather sooner than later. Sadly not all of those people do have the money required for such an urge, meaning some go into deep debt.

And yes, I know, the use of this concept by WG is nothing new by now - however the fact that they now split up an individual release over time to get more money is something they only started doing a while ago.

 

 

Oh, and by the way: anyone who just wants to get snarky can fobb off right away. This topic is not another opportunity for some of you to sh** on cvs in general, this is about the marketing strategy once again at work here.

I dont think that this is necessarily a "FOMO" as she is not going to be removed shortly after which would constitute that.

In general you can obtain the ships for doubloons and Coal as we have done since Napoli, however as we have done with e.g. Alvaro de Bazan as well, she will have a period where she is only available for doubloons before becoming available for "free" (for coal).

Consider it a sort of "early access" to Malta. The gap between her being available for free is not very big with only about 2 weeks. And if you really care about having her those 2 weeks earlier, then you can choose to do so.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[quickr]

Ships being sold for money first then ingame resources later is something I personally am fine by.

[Yedwy]

Well IIRC Alvaro was the same thing? Those that cant wait for couple of weeks will pay up, the rest will get her for free, I see nothing wrong there if anything its quite short a time to wait...

[BlackYeti]

6 minutes ago, quickr said:

Ships being sold for money first then ingame resources later is something I personally am fine by.

This is fine if it stays like that and doesn't become a "give an inch take a mile" scenario. The company deserves to expect revenue and two weeks isn't a big deal but one can expect the goalposts to get pushed eventually to maximise profit.

[SurfaceFish]

Good for me, if I decide to play random again (co op main now), bigger chance to face a player bought this CV and don't have any idea how to play in my CV. 

 

WG tells you the day this ship will be free with coal, if you don't have coal or can't wait that's your decision as an adult. This is better than lock ships behind random bundles like the 2 T8 premium subs. 

 

I'm waiting until middle of December to use the resource coupon on her. My coal stock dipped below 1m with Alvaro purchase. 

[quickr]

4 minutes ago, BlackYeti said:

This is fine if it stays like that and doesn't become a "give an inch take a mile" scenario. The company deserves to expect revenue and two weeks isn't a big deal but one can expect the goalposts to get pushed eventually to maximise profit.

I'm fine even if they decide to do this with every premium ship. WOWS if a F2P game and money has to come from somewhere. Those who can't wait, pay up, those that can will wait and get it for free/ingame resources. Nothing wrong there.

[Lootboxer]

Not  a big deal. If you can't wait 2 weeks than you have bigger problem then this.

[RuneSlayers]

I am fine with that, as long as it comes for free (coal). So 2 weeks is not that big of a deal here.

[lovelacebeer]

Whilst I know I can be very critical of WG this isn’t an issue, if people want to throw money at her to get her 2 weeks early that’s up to them, this kind of monetisation is uncharacteristically reasonable from WG. 
 

I will be getting her myself when she’s available for coal.

[evil_communist_from_ussr]

not interested

[T0byJug]

Only time this woul dbe an issue if they had anounced Malta for Dubloons WITHOUT telling us its avalable ina couple of weeks for Coal.

 

Nothing to see here Rage for the sake of Rage.

 

I see no issue for a free to play game giving early access for money. as long as thay early access is not months or a year or something..

 

2 weeks is nothing

[Varian_Dorn]

1 hour ago, Seraphice said:

I dont think that this is necessarily a "FOMO" as she is not going to be removed shortly after which would constitute that.

In general you can obtain the ships for doubloons and Coal as we have done since Napoli, however as we have done with e.g. Alvaro de Bazan as well, she will have a period where she is only available for doubloons before becoming available for "free" (for coal).

Consider it a sort of "early access" to Malta. The gap between her being available for free is not very big with only about 2 weeks. And if you really care about having her those 2 weeks earlier, then you can choose to do so.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

I thank you for your reply. Guess this one just struck me a bit more since this new vessel does interest me.

 

May you have a pleasant day.

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 3 Stunden, Varian_Dorn sagte:

Would you kindly tell us, if you know and are at liberty to do so, why the Malta is not immediately available for coal as well? Why the delay?

I think it is an awesome experiment for testing impulse control with grown-ups. A skill that starts to develop at around 3 to 4 years of age.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Johnny_Moneto said:

I think it is an awesome experiment for testing impulse control with grown-ups. A skill that starts to develop at around 3 to 4 years of age.

basically that. Should be oblivious by now. This marketing is prominent and working well

[Figment]

The Malta will be unsinkable though.

 

Just look at that citadel design.

 

[KillStealBoss]

1 hour ago, Varian_Dorn said:

I thank you for your reply. Guess this one just struck me a bit more since this new vessel does interest me.

 

May you have a pleasant day.

In the past they didn't benefit much from coal ships. So they started to release them with an option to buy them in premium shop for those who didn't have the coal. Though people just took the coal option ofc. And now they are making such delay to force out those who really wanted the ship to get by paying cash. What's the next step? No idea, they might make the delay even longer, one patch long. 

[Nov_A]

Yes, and?

 

I will just wait the 2 weeks, then get her.

 

Then I will wait another 2 weeks and actually play her, otherwise every game is just Malta Malta.

[Miscommunication_dept]

Early access are the best kind of monetisation.

 

We can all get it, if we are patient.

 

Let the whales spend all their money to support your free-to-play gameplay.

[Tanaka_15]

next prem t10 cv why?

[Panocek]

 

4 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Well IIRC Alvaro was the same thing? Those that cant wait for couple of weeks will pay up, the rest will get her for free, I see nothing wrong there if anything its quite short a time to wait...

Same with Sherman. I think trend started with Napoli awhile back? 

 

31 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

next prem t10 cv why?

Why not 

[Tanaka_15]

Just now, Panocek said:

 

Same with Sherman. I think trend started with Napoli awhile back? 

 

Why not 

idk. was counting on supersubs frist. yeah supersubs this will be cool 

[Panocek]

2 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

idk. was counting on supersubs frist. yeah supersubs this will be cool 

That will come after hybrid submarines

[Tanaka_15]

Just now, Panocek said:

That will come after hybrid submarines

super_hybrid_sub ofc russian one!