[UNNF] Big_Daddy5 Players 380 posts 30,394 battles Report post #26 Posted September 29, 2022 Oh, you must be from WG, right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOKTR] Viridem Players 381 posts 13,272 battles Report post #27 Posted September 29, 2022 Can't wait to have this added to the game, so that I can check that pre-ogress. Are they too like onions? Because I like onions. Anyway. Looks like WG stopped with the gambling and went back with a slightly different twist on the dockyard. I suppose that most of their sells were of people getting the ships or economic bonuses at their first roll, thus driving down the average money spent per ship sold. Can't have that. Now, if you want the ship, you gotta spend at least X amount of doubloons. No other choice. Expecting a serious price tag on that battle pass. 30k, maybe? Probably with a "sale" on the first week, like with dockyards. (Edit: Ok maybe 10-15k?) They're not giving details, but I suppose that the Japanese Tokens you get for free will only get you to tier VII. Further than that and you'll need to buy them, maybe earn them via the battle pass? So yeah, I'm speculating quite a bit, but it looks like we'll be getting the same as usual, with a different coat of paint. Yawn. (Japanese cruisers coming in a little bit more than a month. Not quite sure they'll be ready and balanced by then...) 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corpsetaker Players 225 posts 372 battles Report post #28 Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said: Was announced on official stream. Missions, paid content, etc… Main reward is Tokachi, only with paid content. Hello, What's difference between this and the dockyard event? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MTMY] cambs101 Players 20 posts Report post #29 Posted September 29, 2022 soooooooo...... before i throw all my toys out of the pram.........did they say how much they want as payment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #30 Posted September 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Viridem said: Expecting a serious price tag on that battle pass. 30k, maybe? Probably with a "sale" on the first week, like with dockyards. Since they offer TX ship as freemium ship, and 39 rewards pre-ship. I would say atleast 50k doubloons, for all. I think Pay to Rico with doubloons-only progress would be around 45-50k doubloons with other 39 toys before, so this would be on similar level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PTS] J0tt Players 200 posts Report post #31 Posted September 29, 2022 Vor 9 Minuten, Hades_warrior sagte: Since they offer TX ship as freemium ship, and 39 rewards pre-ship. I would say atleast 50k doubloons, for all. I think Pay to Rico with doubloons-only progress would be around 45-50k doubloons with other 39 toys before, so this would be on similar level. Who in their right mind would pay 162€ for a monthly battle pass ... While I never bought one or even played a game with one, I always had the impression that these things go for about 10-20 bucks? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TBU] DrPhibes Players 60 posts 16,858 battles Report post #32 Posted September 29, 2022 Not interested in more FOMO, so I'll pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOKTR] Viridem Players 381 posts 13,272 battles Report post #33 Posted September 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said: Since they offer TX ship as freemium ship, and 39 rewards pre-ship. I would say atleast 50k doubloons, for all. I think Pay to Rico with doubloons-only progress would be around 45-50k doubloons with other 39 toys before, so this would be on similar level. I was thinking 45-50k too, but not for the same reasons. I lowered to 30k, out of positivity and hopefulness, and not be too much of a drama queen. Tokachi is tier VII, not tier X. It's already "worth" around 9k. A tier X would be something around 20-25k easily, if not a bit more, I think. Right now, if I complete all the missions for the PR, I'd have to pay 10 500 dubs for the whole chain (less if I had bought the "discounted" packages). In a way it's "not much" for a tier X premium ship, a tier VII premium, and all the other goodies you get in between. However, to get there at this price, you need to complete pretty grindy missions, play a lot. WG needs our money, but it needs us to play their game as well. The way I understand this battle pass thing is, since the free one rewards us the usual things we get from the current daily, weekly and monthly missions, it won't require us to play more than usual. Since they won't entice us to play more, they will have to entice us to pay more to compensate. On the other hand, they did say that there will be a new one with each update. I can't see them requesting us to pay for 30k each month, let alone 50k... ...Soooo maybe 10k would be more reasonable? I would buy the Tokachi at this price... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #34 Posted September 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, cambs101 said: soooooooo...... before i throw all my toys out of the pram.........did they say how much they want as payment? The WoT BP has multiple tiers: -Small add on for 9€ that gives a unique crew member and some small extras. -Full pass for all the stages for 23.90€. -Full pass + daily goals for 39.99€ - as full pass plus a mission for 30days that gives 250 gold once a day for a game in randoms. We can expect the WoWS version to be similar in price but with less rewards per stage. The WoT pass gives you a reward for every stage no matter if paid or not. The screen above shows how miserly the WoWS team is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corpsetaker Players 225 posts 372 battles Report post #35 Posted September 29, 2022 Hello, Are any of you really that surprised? This game is created using a mobile game platform with all of it's microtransactions and such. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #36 Posted September 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, J0tt said: Who in their right mind would pay 162€ for a monthly battle pass ... While I never bought one or even played a game with one, I always had the impression that these things go for about 10-20 bucks? For 10 bucks you can get maybe tier 1 Premium ship. 5 minutes ago, Viridem said: I was thinking 45-50k too, but not for the same reasons. I lowered to 30k, out of positivity and hopefulness, and not be too much of a drama queen. Tokachi is tier VII, not tier X. It's already "worth" around 9k. A tier X would be something around 20-25k easily, if not a bit more, I think. Right now, if I complete all the missions for the PR, I'd have to pay 10 500 dubs for the whole chain (less if I had bought the "discounted" packages). In a way it's "not much" for a tier X premium ship, a tier VII premium, and all the other goodies you get in between. However, to get there at this price, you need to complete pretty grindy missions, play a lot. WG needs our money, but it needs us to play their game as well. The way I understand this battle pass thing is, since the free one rewards us the usual things we get from the current daily, weekly and monthly missions, it won't require us to play more than usual. Since they won't entice us to play more, they will have to entice us to pay more to compensate. On the other hand, they did say that there will be a new one with each update. I can't see them requesting us to pay for 30k each month, let alone 50k... ...Soooo maybe 10k would be more reasonable? I would buy the Tokachi at this price... Oh. I didn't notice that ship is tier 7 and not 10. Actually tier 9 value was around 35k doubloons, so its much more than your opinion of TX for 25k. I would never pay for some passes, especially in weegee game. And them asking us for spending more money but in meantime adding idiotic new stuff into this game that makes playing TX battles nightmare is crazy. ''Yes we will add subs because they are fine as they are, but also please, would you spend more money each month for us?'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corpsetaker Players 225 posts 372 battles Report post #37 Posted September 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aragathor said: The WoT BP has multiple tiers: -Small add on for 9€ that gives a unique crew member and some small extras. -Full pass for all the stages for 23.90€. -Full pass + daily goals for 39.99€ - as full pass plus a mission for 30days that gives 250 gold once a day for a game in randoms. We can expect the WoWS version to be similar in price but with less rewards per stage. The WoT pass gives you a reward for every stage no matter if paid or not. The screen above shows how miserly the WoWS team is. Hello, Don't be surprised if we start seeing a Battle Pass every month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOKTR] Viridem Players 381 posts 13,272 battles Report post #38 Posted September 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Corpsetaker said: Hello, Don't be surprised if we start seeing a Battle Pass every month. "A new BP will start with the release of each Update and remain active until the start of the next one." That's the plan, apparently. 14 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said: For 10 bucks you can get maybe tier 1 Premium ship. Actually tier 9 value was around 35k doubloons, so its much more than your opinion of TX for 25k. For 10 bucks you can get a tier V. A tier IX ship is 19 300 dubs in the armory. You're off by a slight margin. I compared the price of tier IX and tier X coal ships, and extrapolated that for doubloons. But I know that it might not be a good method, or that i counted wrong... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #39 Posted September 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said: Was announced on official stream. Missions, paid content, etc… Main reward is Tokachi, only with paid content. i never though WG will go Blizzard way, Diablo way, and mobile game way. This is just a great marketing trick where if you buy premium bundle it forces you to play daily so you dont lose what you payed, great trick! Is it worth it? depends on the price. 10 euros, sure why not, but above that I dont think its worth it since you will force yourself to play daily even when you dont want to play, and this will make more games worse,since a lot of people will grind these rewards. Another cash grab... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #40 Posted September 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said: I think this bold guy is looking for doubloons in his nose He should dig deeper. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #41 Posted September 29, 2022 Holy fkin sh*t, slowly whales are gonna be spending more on this game than my monthly income... 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #42 Posted September 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: Holy fkin sh*t, slowly whales are gonna be spending more on this game than my monthly income... This whale isn't! Although - to be completely transparent - if they hadn't dropped submarines on us, I'd have probably been persuaded to get the premium pass (assuming the rewards-cost ratio was okay). Now, good luck with that, WG....! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #43 Posted September 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Aragathor said: The player base is shrinking, instead of fixing their mistakes they try to milk the remainder even harder. Yep OFC I m gonna be ignoring this offer, free stuff only 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #44 Posted September 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, DrPhibes said: so I'll pass. Ba-dum, tss! 2 hours ago, Viridem said: Can't wait to have this added to the game, so that I can check that pre-ogress. Come on now. Cut them some slack and give them a break. After all, this is work-in-preogress. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KOKOS] DanSilverwing Players 1,193 posts 19,517 battles Report post #45 Posted September 29, 2022 Ah, publicly speculating about the price pre-release reminds me of the speculation between Hayate and Smaland's announcement and release. A good way to gauge the very upper limit of what value people attach to the product and then release it at a slightly higher cost. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRU_] zengaze Players 534 posts Report post #46 Posted September 29, 2022 Same thing in 2 posts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRU_] zengaze Players 534 posts Report post #47 Posted September 29, 2022 3 hours ago, J0tt said: Who in their right mind would pay 162€ for a monthly battle pass ... While I never bought one or even played a game with one, I always had the impression that these things go for about 10-20 bucks? Battle pass is the main way FTP games monetise. For example both COD warzone, and Apex Legends, two top tier PvP games are absolutely free to play, you can buy the season pass as your way of kicking coin to the devs, the pass you get lets you unlock COSMETICS, different skins for characters and weapons etc. You gain Zero advantage over a FTP player, unlike in WOWs where buying yourself power over others is inbuilt into the economy in the form of flags, and previously camos, OP by design boats locked in gamble boxes, etc etc. Pay to win is at the centre of War Gambling's monetisation strat. In fact if you mention a War gambling product in any gamer forum the first thing that will be said is "P2W", because that is what WG are infamous for, only in this blind echo chamber do you hear shills and bootlickers deny the P2W despite having it explained to them countless times why it is P2W. The Battle pass in Straight skill PvP games and not this RNG dice roll mobile game, is the equivalent of WG's Premium account. SO you tell me why are they double dipping? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSAF] LowSpeedHighDrag Players 484 posts 16,909 battles Report post #48 Posted September 30, 2022 No no, this is good. Hear me out Weegee. Have a battle mode where in Premium Battle Pass, you can select and pay for battle modes as follows: Mode 1: All ships, but No Carriers Mode 2: All ships, but No submarines Mode 3: All ships, but No CV's and No submarines Mode 4: No Arms Race mode Mode 5: No Radar ships and No Hydro ships. Mode 6: No Battleships only Mode 7: No Cruisers only Mode 8: No Destroyers only Mode 9: Submarines only mode Mode 10: Carrier vs Carrier only mode Mode 11: Submarines and Carrier only mode There, WG. You now have an incredible way to earn and boost your profits and your end of year/quarter bonuses. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSAF] LowSpeedHighDrag Players 484 posts 16,909 battles Report post #49 Posted September 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said: people will grind these rewards So besides what I can see from the screen shot. What is the special reward that players will grind that we couldn't already grind to get available now? I don't see Steel, Research B, Recruitment points on that rewards list. Unless WG gets 'smart' and finds a way to nerf earning to boost this new wallet opener. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #50 Posted September 30, 2022 5 hours ago, LowSpeedHighDrag said: So besides what I can see from the screen shot. What is the special reward that players will grind that we couldn't already grind to get available now? I don't see Steel, Research B, Recruitment points on that rewards list. Unless WG gets 'smart' and finds a way to nerf earning to boost this new wallet opener. ship my friend, premium ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites