WOWS is so frustrating that it is not worth playing anymore

[IsraelHands]

I think that with all the gimmick ships and the overwhelming likelihood that you will be in a ridiculously one-sided match, every match, that the game is simply not worth playing any more. I uninstalled for about four months after the farrago of the introduction of submarines, which was against 80-90% of the opinion of the player-base, and I am thinking of doing the same again. For every reasonable or good game I play, I play 5 or 6 that are just pure frustration. WOWS has signally not invested in game play - how few sodding maps there are!!!!! - just in trotting out more gimmick ships all the time. WOWS has not had a farthing out of me in real money since the submarine introduction and is unlikely to ever get money out of me again. This used to be a good, entertaining game, but it is no longer.

 

If WOWS does not invest in the player experience it will become moribund and will fold.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Well.. the missions are the most frustrating part...

 

Otherwise, I'd say the top issue are the subs currently, not always present, or on your flank. In any case, I'm looking forward to the operations.

[Takethatyoubeast]

9 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Well.. the missions are the most frustrating part...

 

Otherwise, I'd say the top issue are the subs currently, not always present, or on your flank. In any case, I'm looking forward to the operations.

Reintroduction of old scenarios (if PTS is anything to go by) will be welcomed 

[Takethatyoubeast]

13 minutes ago, IsraelHands said:

I think that with all the gimmick ships and the overwhelming likelihood that you will be in a ridiculously one-sided match, every match, that the game is simply not worth playing any more. I uninstalled for about four months after the farrago of the introduction of submarines, which was against 80-90% of the opinion of the player-base, and I am thinking of doing the same again. For every reasonable or good game I play, I play 5 or 6 that are just pure frustration. WOWS has signally not invested in game play - how few sodding maps there are!!!!! - just in trotting out more gimmick ships all the time. WOWS has not had a farthing out of me in real money since the submarine introduction and is unlikely to ever get money out of me again. This used to be a good, entertaining game, but it is no longer.

 

If WOWS does not invest in the player experience it will become moribund and will fold.

Win or lose today the games have been pretty bad 

 

No team work, BB’s going off alone to die even when they are going into a 1 vs 4 trap etc etc.. 

 

Do some people turn the mini map off do you think 🤔 

 

Summer Holiday time can be the most frustrating so I feel the pain 

[Aethervoxx]

WoWS is frustrating to play by 'design'. How many older players are still around? Not many, I'd wager & probably not giving WG .

I'm limiting my play due to the now horrid MM that doesn't even try to be balanced or fair.

The whole franchise is designed to churn the players over so that there's enough new players continuing to enter play who WG can 'sucker' for  in a variety of ways.

WoT has done this. WoWP? Does anyone play 'that'? WoWS trajectory is going exactly in the same direction as WoT. Into a garbage bin.

WG is all about the . They don't give a  about anything else.

[arquata2019_]

2 ore fa, IsraelHands ha scritto:

I think that with all the gimmick ships and the overwhelming likelihood that you will be in a ridiculously one-sided match, every match, that the game is simply not worth playing any more. I uninstalled for about four months after the farrago of the introduction of submarines, which was against 80-90% of the opinion of the player-base, and I am thinking of doing the same again. For every reasonable or good game I play, I play 5 or 6 that are just pure frustration. WOWS has signally not invested in game play - how few sodding maps there are!!!!! - just in trotting out more gimmick ships all the time. WOWS has not had a farthing out of me in real money since the submarine introduction and is unlikely to ever get money out of me again. This used to be a good, entertaining game, but it is no longer.

 

If WOWS does not invest in the player experience it will become moribund and will fold.

I installed WGC back in update 0.7.5 or something and then, for other reasons, had to re-install it during the 0.8.2. I barely missed RTS CVs and how good WoWs was back then compared to now. Yes, I sadly never played 2015 to 2018 WoWs but I still watch some videos on it and would love to see it coming back. From what I know it was good tbf.

[WingedHussar_Adler]

3 hours ago, IsraelHands said:

I think that with all the gimmick ships and the overwhelming likelihood that you will be in a ridiculously one-sided match, every match, that the game is simply not worth playing any more. I uninstalled for about four months after the farrago of the introduction of submarines, which was against 80-90% of the opinion of the player-base, and I am thinking of doing the same again. For every reasonable or good game I play, I play 5 or 6 that are just pure frustration. WOWS has signally not invested in game play - how few sodding maps there are!!!!! - just in trotting out more gimmick ships all the time. WOWS has not had a farthing out of me in real money since the submarine introduction and is unlikely to ever get money out of me again. This used to be a good, entertaining game, but it is no longer.

 

If WOWS does not invest in the player experience it will become moribund and will fold.

Why did you forgot about WORST PART of wows experience and which is directly correlated with 1 sided games?

 

In team of 10 players on tX game you will have at least 5 sub 50% wr guys with 2-3 been sub 45%....

 

Untill that is not change, WG can change mechanics, ships, classes and nothing will matter cause potatos will potato and ruine every game they enter 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

9 hours ago, WingedHussar_Adler said:

Why did you forgot about WORST PART of wows experience and which is directly correlated with 1 sided games?

 

In team of 10 players on tX game you will have at least 5 sub 50% wr guys with 2-3 been sub 45%....

 

Untill that is not change, WG can change mechanics, ships, classes and nothing will matter cause potatos will potato and ruine every game they enter 

 

Those are issues, yes... but lately I've noticed that for me, personally, the maps are becoming more and more of an issue too. I've pretty much said in the past that if it were possible, I'd only play the Ocean for most engagements. There might be other types of modes that would suit more constricted waters, but overall my play style requires the Ocean.

 

I'm also guilty of adding to the overall frustration by grinding lines and ships I have next to zero interest in, as well as committing myself to all sorts of trivial 'events' and missions with what must be considered very poor level of reward. The current dockyard missions, well... the reward is good, but they are really starting to get on my nerves because they are very monotonous to try and complete fast enough. Missions might help you plan how you intend to spend your time in the game, yes, but for me right now I feel they are doing more harm than good.

 

With some of my choices then, I'm not doing myself any favors. I can't do much about the maps, subs, or (other) potatoes out there, but what I should be doing is picking the ships I like the best, mostly (if not entirely) playing those ships. I'm also pinning a lot of hopes on the upcoming revamped Operations, so I'm hoping WG has not once again managed to completely screw up a great idea with a an effed up implementation.

[deathsadow]

12 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Well.. the missions are the most frustrating part...

 

Otherwise, I'd say the top issue are the subs currently, not always present, or on your flank. In any case, I'm looking forward to the operations.

I am also waiting for those new Operations, saddly the PvP part of the game turned to a big mess, an a good 2/3 of the ships arent even worth playing, the owerflow of gimmicks just screwed the base game concept. 

 

11 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

WoWS is frustrating to play by 'design'. How many older players are still around? Not many, I'd wager & probably not giving WG .

I'm limiting my play due to the now horrid MM that doesn't even try to be balanced or fair.

The whole franchise is designed to churn the players over so that there's enough new players continuing to enter play who WG can 'sucker' for  in a variety of ways.

WoT has done this. WoWP? Does anyone play 'that'? WoWS trajectory is going exactly in the same direction as WoT. Into a garbage bin.

WG is all about the . They don't give a  about anything else.

Well i am a Veteran and paying for WoWs seems completly pointless, the devs are doing a horrible job so i will not support them in that, and the ships which can be bought by money are still going to get rekt by the OP gimmicky T9-10 coal, steel, RB , FXP ships. Honestly why would anyone pay 40-50 EUR for a T8 BB when you have stuff like Ohio, Thunderer & Bourgogne ... or i want to see a T8 DD which doesnt get obliterated by a Ragnar, Smalan or Marceau.

[deathsadow]

11 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Those are issues, yes... but lately I've noticed that for me, personally, the maps are becoming more and more of an issue too. I've pretty much said in the past that if it were possible, I'd only play the Ocean for most engagements. There might be other types of modes that would suit more constricted waters, but overall my play style requires the Ocean.

 

I'm also guilty of adding to the overall frustration by grinding lines and ships I have next to zero interest in, as well as committing myself to all sorts of trivial 'events' and missions with what must be considered very poor level of reward. The current dockyard missions, well... the reward is good, but they are really starting to get on my nerves because they are very monotonous to try and complete fast enough. Missions might help you plan how you intend to spend your time in the game, yes, but for me right now I feel they are doing more harm than good.

 

With some of my choices then, I'm not doing myself any favors. I can't do much about the maps, subs, or (other) potatoes out there, but what I should be doing is picking the ships I like the best, mostly (if not entirely) playing those ships. I'm also pinning a lot of hopes on the upcoming revamped Operations, so I'm hoping WG has not once again managed to completely screw up a great idea with a an effed up implementation.

 

Well map wise we need the Islands as most of the cruisers doesnt stand a chance in open water maps ... like for example any USN cruiser. With Ocean map only , most likely the game would be even more of a long range HE spam fest , with DDs free fire torps into BBs from stealth, which would probably be worse for the game.

 

As for the Missions , yeah they are getting very oppressive as they are allways on , so unless you decide not to care for the ones with lesser rewards you are mostly told what and how to play all the time.

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

*sip* 🍵

 

 

[MarChil]

Well, WoWs is good therapy if you have a destructive personalty. It makes me watch a failing and burning thing without causing trouble. At least, that's what my therapist claimed when he set me up. 

[SnuSnu_RIP]

Yeah this game isn't the same anymore as it was 5 years ago. I played 30k games so far, which is a lot. But I'm streaming it also, and it happens more often that I stop the stream after 5 games. Reasons are the bad match quality, which comes from this horrible playerbase. You get so often real sabotage players in your team, that even a 3 man division can't carry them anymore. Normally it's 12 vs 12,but in reality you play often 8 vs 16. That's just frustrating, so I have to quit for the day. Another reason is the implementation of broken classes like CVs and subs, and the ignorance of WG itself. But I'm streaming it, and I like to play with my clanmates. Let's see what the future brings, I don't expect any improvement anymore. It's just the same way as WOT. 

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

If you are unhappy with your relationship and don't believe it to ever improve, you can - and should - actually break up before you find somebody more appealing.

 

Same goes with games. 

[Hades_warrior]

20 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Well.. the missions are the most frustrating part...

 

Otherwise, I'd say the top issue are the subs currently, not always present, or on your flank. In any case, I'm looking forward to the operations.

Operations, and Ranked. Ranked is still without subs so it is playable if you put on side wooden players.

Atleast we will get some Community tokens for playing Operations 

Randoms, especially high tiers - highly unplayable.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

This days I get such teams that often I turn broadside or eat torps deliberately just to get out of the game asap. Nuff said.

[Si_klegg]

Well I'm new to the game, 8 months in so I don't understand or have any idea of how the game used to be.

 

However, our month-old Clan played it's first 3 Clan Battles last night having worked like crazy to get six players with tier VIII ships in order to take part.

 

And what do we find? Our three opponents were made up of half clan, half merc. There is nothing in the Clan Battle rules explaining this merc system. Only by going in Battle Chat and asking some very helpful folk did I find out what is going on. I feel this system is open to abuse and that basically many Clans are in a false position because they can have half the Clan as - what we call in the UK, when a team of any sort (Sport, Darts, Pub Quiz etc) brings in outsiders, they are known as 'Ringers'.

 

We lost all three battles. We expected to be beat as we are brand new to this, but to be beaten by Clans that aren't Clans & certainly were of a far higher skill level than us when we are supposed to be equally matched left a sour taste in the mouth and p***ed many of us off.

 

I understand players want to play, I get that, but WOWS giving Clans carte blanche to cheat (or at least mutilate the spirit of the game) is an extraordinary discovery.

 

 

[ZygZag]

18 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

Operations, and Ranked. Ranked is still without subs so it is playable if you put on side wooden players.

Atleast we will get some Community tokens for playing Operations 

Randoms, especially high tiers - highly unplayable.

Same here. In rankeds usually I meet people who at least try to win - not just take part :)

I am longigng for next patch with randomised ops...

[Hades_warrior]

2 hours ago, ZygZag said:

Same here. In rankeds usually I meet people who at least try to win - not just take part :)

I am longigng for next patch with randomised ops...

Considering how terrible Randoms are now (with subs and all those WCs flying around), I am almost thankful that I can play a mode (Ranked) where only problem is being potato.

[Migantium_Mashum]

On 8/27/2022 at 10:47 PM, Aethervoxx said:

WoWS is frustrating to play by 'design'. How many older players are still around? Not many, I'd wager & probably not giving WG .

I'm limiting my play due to the now horrid MM that doesn't even try to be balanced or fair.

The whole franchise is designed to churn the players over so that there's enough new players continuing to enter play who WG can 'sucker' for  in a variety of ways.

WoT has done this. WoWP? Does anyone play 'that'? WoWS trajectory is going exactly in the same direction as WoT. Into a garbage bin.

WG is all about the . They don't give a  about anything else.

I am here since 2016.. I certainly don't give WG coin anymore. I stopped with the 2018 rework.

 

I play WoWs and did try WoT for a while.

 

Everything you write is spot on.

[ZygZag]

On 8/29/2022 at 3:23 PM, Hades_warrior said:

Considering how terrible Randoms are now (with subs and all those WCs flying around), I am almost thankful that I can play a mode (Ranked) where only problem is being potato.

+1. All I can do.

 

[JasonMcFly]

Ships bring Revenue, game content like new maps are not monetized. Witch one do you think wargreedy wants to push?. Also in this game, like in the real world, the ratio of idiots vs people that actually wants to to contribute to the team, id say is somewhere around 200 to 1. As wargreedy has proved many many times, they could not care less about the content as long as the 200 idiots keeps throwing money at their slow grind. The premier tournament games and CB are now as boring as watching paint dry. This is not a team game anymore, its a farm-fest that reminds me more and more of ad-ridden cellphone filth. 

[Hades_warrior]

On 8/29/2022 at 8:53 PM, Migantium_Mashum said:

I am here since 2016.. I certainly don't give WG coin anymore. I stopped with the 2018 rework.

 

Same here. Tho, I stopped sometime later, when I got Jean Bart B for Black Friday event. But usualy I didn't spend much on them anyway.

[Arrive_Alive]

I can deal with subs and CVs (barely) but i can't deal with this playerbase. <45% WR DDs are the worst part about this game and somehow the MM often fills one team up with these guys. Pure pain.

For one good game where it's actually close you get 5-6 sh*tshows that aren't worth the time. Lots of people with >2k games these days, in mid tiers most players have 100-500 battles, it's completely abandoned by veterans and filled with noobs which leads to horrible games. There is a steady influx of new players so WG has a somewhat good marketing, but it seems that player retention is low these days.



 

[Johnny_Moneto]

Am 27.8.2022 um 22:00, IsraelHands sagte:

For every reasonable or good game I play, I play 5 or 6 that are just pure frustration

For me it wasn't frustration, in the end it was boredom. Having to spend 1 or 2 hours of boring gameplay to have fun for 5 minutes didn't seem like a good deal to me anymore.

 

The reasons for the boring gameplay are manifold. In the end I didn't want to play what the game has become and the game didn't want to become what I wanted to play.