Few observasions on the new patch.

[Anthoniusii]

WG shoted its legs. It destroyed a well promised game once and for all. With the new economic bonuses system its no longer a "Free to play" game but a game that a player must buy such economic bonuses or have a sponsor (teams that participate in worldwide champioships).

1. The signals and camo button that allows or NOT to automaticaly reload those items is broken is always activated.
2. The signals placed in the ship;s equipment  department is a pain in the [edited]because you need always to check a place you never checked before once you placed your ship's upgrades.
3. The separation of the extra from premium camos is resiculus. Please WG do not make an other dilly camos like King Kong and othe rubish since they have no value at all .
4. Now participating in a clan is useless. The only real benefit is the 15/% discount price of researchable ships. So now WG discourage players to participate in a clan. If WG would like to prove me wrong in the Drydock that has 6 levels the 15% discount or repair of ships shoould be changed accordinly from a) 10%  b) 15% c) 20%, d) 25%, e) 30% and finally f) 40% , That way the clans will have a motivation to participate in Clan wars and Naval battles to obtain Oil.
5. The new battle camera sytem is rubish ...you need to push twice Shift button to activate it and it offers nothing more that the previus one.

Now the British Battlecruisers. Such an idiotic system of invisible torpedo tubes and deleting their majority of 2ary artilery is beyond imagination. Congats to the one that though about it. So we have useless ships comparing to OP German Battlecruisers and -ofcourse- any type od Soviet ship even a slope! Congats!!!

[ColonelPete]

I wonder how often WG got and will be told that they destroyed their game...

One wonders how often one can destroy something...

[Profilus]

24 minutes ago, Anthoniusii said:

Now participating in a clan is useless. The only real benefit is the 15/% discount price of researchable ships. So now WG discourage players to participate in a clan. If WG would like to prove me wrong in the Drydock that has 6 levels the 15% discount or repair of ships shoould be changed accordinly from a) 10%  b) 15% c) 20%, d) 25%, e) 30% and finally f) 40% ,

If these two things are only reason for you to be in a clan, then i think you dont deserve a clan. I would kick you from mine for sure.

[Shirakami_Kon]

10 minutes ago, Profilus said:

If these two things are only reason for you to be in a clan, then i think you dont deserve a clan. I would kick you from mine for sure.

There's lots of clans out there though that don't care about clan battles or even divisioning in randoms and it's just a bunch of people gathering for the discounts. I'd even there say that the mayority of them are like that, more than their intended whole purpose of people gathering to division, or participate in clan battles and such, so it's not rare these complaints arise now.

 

And as mentioned it's true that this made them pretty useless besides the credit discount when purchasing a tech tree ship now, so it's true that for a mayority of the playerbase the value of a clan has decresed substantially.

[Profilus]

3 minutes ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

There's lots of clans out there though that don't care about clan battles or even divisioning in randoms and it's just a bunch of people gathering for the discounts. I'd even there say that the mayority of them are like that, more than their intended whole purpose of people gathering to division, or participate in clan battles and such, so it's not rare these complaints arise now.

 

And as mentioned it's true that this made them pretty useless besides the credit discount when purchasing a tech tree ship now, so it's true that for a mayority of the playerbase the value of a clan has decresed substantially.

Wait, you saying they removed some clan benefits with this patch? 

As far as i noticed they just added 3 benefits.

[SirAlric82]

29 minuti fa, ColonelPete ha scritto:

I wonder how often WG got and will be told that they destroyed their game...

One wonders how often one can destroy something...

By my experience, if you read the official forum of pretty much every video game in existence, you will learn that:

1. Every single game sucks, is absolutely terrible, and the worst game ever made.
2. Every single game company is completely and utterly incompetent, doesn't understand how their own game works, and every single one of the players would definitely be much better at programming the game than the devs themselves are. 
3. Every time a major patch arrives, it's a cataclysmic doomsday event that completely ruins the game and makes it utterly unplayable (until the next patch)
4. Despite points 1,2,3, everyone still plays the game anyway, even while complaining loudly about it. 

XD

[Yedwy]

Well IIRC they added supership building? So I guess there is something to work twards…

[COPlUM]

How is the ship equipment tab worse, everything is finally in one tab with a friendly user interface instead of two tabs.

[Shirakami_Kon]

8 minutes ago, Profilus said:

Wait, you saying they removed some clan benefits with this patch? 

As far as i noticed they just added 3 benefits.

But didn't they replace the reduced service cost bonus with more credits? That admitedly works better for low tier ships since their service cost is not a problem to begin with, but gets worse than what you used to have at tiers 8, 9 and 10, so feels like an unnecesary replacement that no one really needed, but we got it anyway and it's worse for no reason whatsoever.

[Profilus]

1 minute ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

But didn't they replace the reduced service cost bonus with more credits? That admitedly works better for low tier ships since their service cost is not a problem to begin with, but gets worse than what you used to have at tiers 8, 9 and 10, so feels like an unnecesary replacement that no one really needed, but we got it anyway and it's worse for no reason whatsoever.

No idea. Didnt notice myself and nobody in my clan complained about it. Might be my clanmates didnt need that bonus if it really was removed.

I guess thats why there are so many clans with different thought process in them.

[Profilus]

5 hours ago, Anthoniusii said:

Now participating in a clan is useless. The only real benefit is the 15/% discount price of researchable ships. So now WG discourage players to participate in a clan. If WG would like to prove me wrong in the Drydock that has 6 levels the 15% discount or repair of ships shoould be changed accordinly from a) 10%  b) 15% c) 20%, d) 25%, e) 30% and finally f) 40% , That way the clans will have a motivation to participate in Clan wars and Naval battles to obtain Oil.

 

4 hours ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

And as mentioned it's true that this made them pretty useless besides the credit discount when purchasing a tech tree ship now, so it's true that for a mayority of the playerbase the value of a clan has decresed substantially.

 

4 hours ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

But didn't they replace the reduced service cost bonus with more credits? That admitedly works better for low tier ships since their service cost is not a problem to begin with, but gets worse than what you used to have at tiers 8, 9 and 10, so feels like an unnecesary replacement that no one really needed, but we got it anyway and it's worse for no reason whatsoever.

As expected, building is still there and reduces service cost:

 

[Takethatyoubeast]

7 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

I wonder how often WG got and will be told that they destroyed their game...

One wonders how often one can destroy something...

I’ve destroyed my diet several times today 🤣

 

So far I don’t have any opinion on the patch as it is still new, having a reasonable time in ranked, randoms makes me want to hide in a cupboard and brawls is quite good fun 

[159Hunter]

10 hours ago, COPlUM said:

How is the ship equipment tab worse, everything is finally in one tab with a friendly user interface instead of two tabs.

WG title and user friendly in one sentence?

[________________Morrison]

The only user friendly item is the ways you can buy your in game currencies
Wanna buy some WG bux by phone go ahead

[LowSpeedHighDrag]

1 hour ago, IndomitableVindication said:

Wanna buy some WG bux by phone go ahead

I'd rather use my FIAT for new tangible toys.  Phone, shoes, food, sunnies, socks, luring ladies for my own Dev strike action.

 

[Aethervoxx]

On 7/18/2022 at 1:55 AM, ColonelPete said:

One wonders how often one can destroy something...

Haven't you heard the fable of the golden goose, Pete? Apparently, one can destroy  something multiple times  without actually killing it (until the final destruction ).

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

Haven't you heard the fable of the golden goose, Pete? Apparently, one can destroy  something multiple times  without actually killing it (until the final destruction ).

Looks like you misunderstood something about the story...

[COPlUM]

What I am definitely noticing is you make less credits, it's all fun and games now because some people got half a billion credits selling camos and everyone is using their bonuses, but for a new player or when you run out bonuses, the grind for credits is going to be way more intense. I'm making 250K credits in a T9 with premium time and the perma bonus. I personally don't care because I have all the ships I want and I can't be tempted with wanting more, but for a new player? I just had a 2.8K base XP sinop game and the game gave me 270K credits with premium time. Good luck new and/or bad players, you'll need it.

[Hedgehog1963]

On 7/18/2022 at 10:35 AM, SirAlric82 said:

By my experience, if you read the official forum of pretty much every video game in existence, you will learn that:

1. Every single game sucks, is absolutely terrible, and the worst game ever made.
2. Every single game company is completely and utterly incompetent, doesn't understand how their own game works, and every single one of the players would definitely be much better at programming the game than the devs themselves are. 
3. Every time a major patch arrives, it's a cataclysmic doomsday event that completely ruins the game and makes it utterly unplayable (until the next patch)
4. Despite points 1,2,3, everyone still plays the game anyway, even while complaining loudly about it. 

XD

You even see it on chess forums.

[________________Morrison]

20 hours ago, LowSpeedHighDrag said:

I'd rather use my FIAT for new tangible toys.  Phone, shoes, food, sunnies, socks, luring ladies for my own Dev strike action.

 

[ItsEyeJasper]

On 7/18/2022 at 11:41 AM, COPlUM said:

How is the ship equipment tab worse, everything is finally in one tab with a friendly user interface instead of two tabs.

I dont like the fact that they rearranged the Signals but the UI is much easier use. 

[Aethervoxx]

17 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

something

Nothing. Worthless Post # 35,450

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

Nothing. Worthless Post # 35,450

Says the one imagining a reference to a fairy tale...

[Figment]

Well there have been some useful upgrades and streamlines to the UI IMHO.

 

For one they finally tell you you're going to sail without your pants on (camo check warning indicator in several places, including next to the battle on that you've run out of camos). It also seems that the cost of purchasing a new camo now comes once you start the battle, rather than directly as you came back from the previous match.

 

Of course, they added it after it's not longer of any importance, but to be fair, I think it's a good thing for new players that they don't need camos. I also like that it's easier to pick camos you like. I just don't understand the various levels of silver pricing at all, since they're not actually worth more than one another.

 

 

As someone who's not been in a clan at all since beta, I can't say my silver earnings have been bad. Most my camos and flags with economic bonus upgrades were lingering away anyway. I had hundreds of those and still managed a pretty decent positive silver to keep up with the ships I was grinding for (at modest exp earning rates). The amount of free exp earned over the past days (especially in combination with GK, econ bonuses and freemium time) is about equal to a third of what I've been grinding since the Dutch cruiser line introduction. I'm actually going to reach to 1M free exp very shortly to buy that Groningen.

[COPlUM]

2 hours ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

I dont like the fact that they rearranged the Signals but the UI is much easier use. 

I only use one signal, the +20% heal, sell everything else, doesn't do anything. Muh 0.5% more chance of fires