Expendable cammos - what's the point in them?

[ThePopesHolyFinger]

Why would anyone pay 22,500 - 90,000 credits on a cammo that does nothing?
Why would weegee give me expendable cammos worth nothing when I chose the "more coal" option for a container?

[DirtyHeddy]

well - they are not quite worthless - You can sell them for a few credits

 

That's on the other hand the one and only value left to them and WG could leave them out in the containers - I am quite certain that no one wants them anymore, and if so, he could buy them ...

[Purnylla]

Yeah, I don't see much point in using them, especially considering their price tag. Selling them might bring in some extra cash. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the More Camouflages container might actually be worth more than the More Credits container. Did anyone do some calculations on that? :P

[DirtyHeddy]

1 minute ago, Purnylla said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the More Camouflages container might actually be worth more than the More Credits container. Did anyone do some calculations on that? :P

One day even WG will realize that and do something against it

[Purnylla]

I wouldn't be surprised if they'll come with a tweak of camouflages anyways. They'll probably gathering some data in how many people are actually buying and using them, and how many people selling them simply for credits. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just now, Purnylla said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they'll come with a tweak of camouflages anyways. They'll probably gathering some data in how many people are actually buying and using them, and how many people selling them simply for credits. 

 

Well, as the theory goes, we here on the forum represent the vocal minority, and we are selling the camos for credits, so I must assume that the silent majority is throwing credits to get as much of these pointless camos as they can as we speak.

[SkipperCH]

Since camos now are nothing more than visual I see many more ships without any camo applied. What was an indicator of laziness (forgetting to replenish a camo) or a possible sign of poor gameplay has ow become a completely acceptable standard, since the camo has no gameplay element any longer.

 

So yes, I understand everybody who keeps them for their visuals but I can also understand everybody who simply sells them for their credit value. 

[Purnylla]

8 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Well, as the theory goes, we here on the forum represent the vocal minority, and we are selling the camos for credits, so I must assume that the silent majority is throwing credits to get as much of these pointless camos as they can as we speak.

Can't remember seeing them being used in the games I've played. Only permacamos, but not the one-time-use ones. Perhaps the newbies in the lower tiers who haven't figured out that selling them is way more profitable :P

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, SkipperCH said:

Since camos now are nothing more than visual I see many more ships without any camo applied. What was an indicator of laziness (forgetting to replenish a camo) or a possible sign of poor gameplay has ow become a completely acceptable standard, since the camo has no gameplay element any longer.

 

So yes, I understand everybody who keeps them for their visuals but I can also understand everybody who simply sells them for their credit value. 

 

On the pragmatic side, one reason for still using a camo is if it makes the ship visually harder to see in battle.

[SkipperCH]

Which is true for many players. Many people don't even know of the inventory's existence and it's potential to make someone rich (again). 

 

 

Gerade eben, Karasu_Hidesuke sagte:

 

On the pragmatic side, one reason for still using a camo is if it makes the ship visually harder to see in battle.

This depends very much on the camo. Normal camos, which were used in reality, maybe. But most camos are colored in such a fancy way they scream "here I am. Shoot me!"

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

Which is true for many players. Many people don't even know of the inventory's existence and it's potential to make someone rich (again). 

 

 

This depends very much on the camo. Normal camos, which were used in reality, maybe. But most camos are colored in such a fancy way they scream "here I am. Shoot me!"

 

Yes, obviously, this only applies to the various military style camos and those of muted color schemes. Not if you are sporting a screaming red neon camo to make sure you can't be missed.

[SkipperCH]

This rework has the benefit of clans now being able to play CW in a unified camo of their choice, without sacrificing possible free XP/credit income. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

This rework has the benefit of clans now being able to play CW in a unified camo of their choice, without sacrificing possible free XP/credit income. 

 

If only we had a thing like Clan camo, Clan insignia and Clan flag.

[SkipperCH]

Technically possible, but problematic. If people get creative freedom there will be some fancy ones, yes. But there will also be swastikas, d*cks, t*ts and all sorts of unwanted stuff. Creating a hell of a lot work for WG.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

Technically possible, but problematic. If people get creative freedom there will be some fancy ones, yes. But there will also be swastikas, d*cks, t*ts and all sorts of unwanted stuff. Creating a hell of a lot work for WG.

 

WoT manages it, although their idea of a clan emblem makes a postage stamp look like a canvas. I'm sure there's image technology available which could filter out most of the unwanted stuff in the process of submitting the designs for approval which would cut down significantly on the 'human input needed' part of the approval process.

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

7 hours ago, DB2212 said:

Why would anyone pay 22,500 - 90,000 credits on a cammo that does nothing?

It changes the appearance, like lipstick, make-up, whatsoever. It does not improve the characteristics, but (sometimes) the cosmetics. Apparently, there is a market for stuff like that in RL as well, where superficial appearance is vastly outranking whatever is hidden behind it.

 

My ships sail naked. They are unlikely to rust during the few minutes of a game.

[ColonelPete]

People spend a fortune on cosmetics in games...

[Jvd2000]

WG already profited. I equipped many T6-T8 that were still without permanent camo ( because I did not want to spend the 1000-3000 D earlier) with the cheap 100D cosmetics.  Not that much of an amount since many are equipped with previously free event camo + occasional bought versions. But still 4K D ish.

 

So now 80% of my T6+ has a fixed permanent camo. With the remaining ones being snowflake duty only. Any rond time use camo goes into credits immediately. 
 

My only dissatisfaction is that some event camo are so ugly…and I am not paying full prize to get a more pleasant camo.

[_HomTanks_]

58 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

but I can also understand everybody who simply sells them for their credit value. 

to compensate their poor play in general. True, but it is going to be temporary for them. Once they run out of camos by selling and not improving their game play, they won't be able to afford high tier games without purchasing permaflage or prem time (which is very good imo, this way the amount of 40% winrate players sailing clueless in CVs, subs or superships can be reduced in top tiers).

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 hour ago, Jvd2000 said:

WG already profited. I equipped many T6-T8 that were still without permanent camo ( because I did not want to spend the 1000-3000 D earlier) with the cheap 100D cosmetics.  Not that much of an amount since many are equipped with previously free event camo + occasional bought versions. But still 4K D ish.

 

So now 80% of my T6+ has a fixed permanent camo. With the remaining ones being snowflake duty only. Any rond time use camo goes into credits immediately. 
 

My only dissatisfaction is that some event camo are so ugly…and I am not paying full prize to get a more pleasant camo.

 

Curious why you felt you needed to get those T6-T8 permanent camos?

[K82J]

I'm glad that i can equip one of my favourite camo ( Hunter ), to any ship in unlimited amount. Being one of the cheapest ones ( 22,5k), i dont really care about the price.

[Wulf_Ace]

3 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

Technically possible, but problematic. If people get creative freedom there will be some fancy ones, yes. But there will also be swastikas, d*cks, t*ts and all sorts of unwanted stuff. Creating a hell of a lot work for WG.

in wot you have emblems and signs on tanks, dont know why they dont put that here also

[invicta2012]

2 hours ago, Jvd2000 said:

So now 80% of my T6+ has a fixed permanent camo. With the remaining ones being snowflake duty only. Any rond time use camo goes into credits immediately. 

I have loads of them too. Still valuable, I think, especially as I have lots of lines to regrind for the RB and I play many TVIs in Operations. I also like the way lots of them look, to be honest. The realistic permacamos are my favourite, and I'll happily continue to buy the ones I think are worthwhile. Perhaps I play more games where cosmetics are a thing than the average WoWS player?

[Hirohito]

The one thing I like about the new camo system is that it disincentivizes the use of all these different camos.
Personally I like more realism rather than less, and some of the old camos just looked absolutely ridiculous to be used on a warship.
The less we have of those the better, imo.

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 11 Stunden, DB2212 sagte:

Why would anyone pay 22,500 - 90,000 credits on a cammo that does nothing?
Why would weegee give me expendable cammos worth nothing when I chose the "more coal" option for a container?

It's in the head...

 

https://youtu.be/gaSBWRWkvWk