Ranked Battle and Ragnar

[Puffin_]

Is Ragnar good or worth the steel for Ranked Battle

[tocqueville8]

I don't have it and I hate having to face one, so my answer is yes and yes.

[Wulf_Ace]

22 minutes ago, Puffin_ said:

Is Ragnar good or worth the steel it for Ranked Battle

you have to like that kind of gameplay with him.

I wouldnt actually reccomend him for ranked. He is better when there is more ships involved in battle.

[Jethro_Grey]

Ragnar in ranked can work, but it is better for randoms. 

[SodaBubbles]

Ragnar in Ranked is easily spotted and killed by BBs and cruisers. it's a tricky ship to play well in Ranked. Excels in Randoms. 

 

[GarrusBrutus]

@Puffin_

Ragnar is inherently underpowered. It lacks the necessary attributes to make meaningful impact on match result.

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[SodaBubbles]

OMG you found the one exception to everyone's general observations of Ragnar play in Ranked. 

 

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

8 hours ago, SodaBubbles said:

OMG you found the one exception to everyone's general observations of Ragnar play in Ranked. 

 

do not believe everything you see ,,, it is doable in CO OP ...

 

it is a ship that makes you tired fingerly and mentally ...

 

most players just use range mode and spam far away , this play style is not for me ...

 

the AP not the same as elbing which disappoints me ...

 

poor AP and HE damage ...

 

only fires that can kill a cruiser or bb and it is time consuming ...

 

i bought this ragnar about 1 week ago , it is my first steel ship so i am forcing my self to play her , i want not to admit that i wasted my steel 

[________________Morrison]

Ragnar is tough, I don't know what this person above me is on about. It's not elping ap no, but it can still chew through your opponents.

 

HE is pretty good too. I don't use it anymore since im not in the gunspy mood. But for a first pick (even though it was my first steel ship) not a big recommendation?

 

You need to know how to play it though. If you do you'll enjoy it but you're not the big hero of the six.

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

3 hours ago, IndomitableVindication said:

Ragnar is tough, I don't know what this person above me is on about. It's not elping ap no, but it can still chew through your opponents.

 

HE is pretty good too. I don't use it anymore since im not in the gunspy mood. But for a first pick (even though it was my first steel ship) not a big recommendation?

 

You need to know how to play it though. If you do you'll enjoy it but you're not the big hero of the six.

she moves like elbing

elbing has better concealment

elbing has better damage

elbing has better penetrating damage

elbing has torps

elbing has smoke to disengage 

 

for me , i enjoyed elbing a lot  more than this thing ...

 

 

like i said this ship is similar to those player playing long range khaba - kleber - marcue - delny ...

 

but it is slower than them and for what ? just a few seconds of radar ?

 

what you can do if you have to cap and nearby bb or cruiser spotted you ?

you will be dead for the secondary's 

 

you cant smoke

you are fat to run 

 

just because some people played her good that doesnt mean the ship is good , but the player is ...

 

this is a fire starter kiting dd ... no more .

 

[ItsEyeJasper]

I think Ragnar effectiveness is determined by Player Skill. If you are not good you are not going to do well.

Torpedoes don't need skill to use so most dds can still be effective even in a bad players hands, where as the Ragnar relies on you using your guns well and not dieing to every other ship as there is no smoke.

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[Hirohito]

13 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

I think Ragnar effectiveness is determined by Player Skill. If you are not good you are not going to do well.

Torpedoes don't need skill to use so most dds can still be effective even in a bad players hands, where as the Ragnar relies on you using your guns well and not dieing to every other ship as there is no smoke.

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This.

Smokeless DDs are not for bad or mediocre players, they nearly all have a relatively high inherent skill requirement.

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

3 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

This.

Smokeless DDs are not for bad or mediocre players, they nearly all have a relatively high inherent skill requirement.

to make it short , hiding behind island or get inside teammate smoke is the skills you all need , sad play .

 

and you dont have an aiming skill ,, spamming is for everyone .

[Hirohito]

2 minutes ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

to make it short , hiding behind island or get inside teammate smoke is the skills you all need , sad play .

 

and you dont have an aiming skill ,, spamming is for everyone .

I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say here.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

Just now, Hirohito said:

I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say here.

He is using a completely wrong way of playing Ragnar, equates it to ''spamming'' and uses that as proof that Ragnar is bad compared to... checks notes Elbing?

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

3 minutes ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

He is using a completely wrong way of playing Ragnar, equates it to ''spamming'' and uses that as proof that Ragnar is bad compared to... checks notes Elbing?

i didnt said bad  , this is your misunderstanding ...

 

if you have another thing this ship can do except spamming and setting fires then tell us please ... 

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

4 minutes ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

i didnt said bad  , this is your misunderstanding ...

 

if you have another thing this ship can do except spamming and setting fires then tell us please ... 

Radaring DDs. Distracting enemies. Making the enemy think twice by its mere presence (or not).

Tell me, how does such a one-dimensional DD still manage to have the highest winrate of all T10 DDs and the highest average damage of all T10 DDs if it can only do two things?

To say Ragnar requires little skill and is ''sad play'' does not reflect reality, especially in Ranked.

[Hirohito]

5 minutes ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

i didnt said bad  , this is your misunderstanding ...

 

if you have another thing this ship can do except spamming and setting fires then tell us please ... 

Uh, being an outright terrifying DD killer?
The thing has radar range equal to it's concealment, laser accurate guns and an armour plate that will have most DD HE shells shatter.
Killing DDs wins games, and this thing can be outright terrifying to meet in a DD if you don't play accordingly.

If you choose to play this exclusively like a Henri IV or Khaba at 14kms to set fires however, I don't know what more I can tell you except that you're doing it wrong.

[Matt_FSR]

Ragnar is strongest if your team supports you.   Run all reload mod skills and you're terrifying to the enemy DD when that radar symbol pops up,  smacking 4x 6" shells out at lazer accuracy every sub-3 seconds, while your team piles on everything else.

 

Problem is so few people actually shoot at DD that sometimes you have to spend half a match or more just killing off the DD and losing most of your HP in the progress!

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

4 minutes ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

Radaring DDs. Distracting enemies. Making the enemy think twice by its mere presence (or not).

Tell me, how does such a one-dimensional DD still manage to have the highest winrate of all T10 DDs and the highest average damage of all T10 DDs if it can only do two things?

To say Ragnar requires little skill and is ''sad play'' does not reflect reality, especially in Ranked.

 

4 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Uh, being an outright terrifying DD killer?
The thing has radar range equal to it's concealment, laser accurate guns and an armour plate that will have most DD HE shells shatter.
Killing DDs wins games, and this thing can be outright terrifying to meet in a DD if you don't play accordingly.

If you choose to play this exclusively like a Henri IV or Khaba at 14kms to set fires however, I don't know what more I can tell you except that you're doing it wrong.

 

 

you guys misunderstanding many things ...

 

all i am talking about is the fun ...

 

is it fun ship ? no ...

 

besides what can distracting enemies gives you ? credits or xp ?

 

i took rank 1 in gold league about 30 times ... i dont care about winning in ranked , i just love 6 or 7 players each team ...

 

Ragnar is still good ship ,, not a bad ship , but the questions is does it worth it ? is it fun ? can you prefer playing her than other ships ?

 

comparing to other steel ships , would anybody prefer playing her  ???

 

you can see so many shikishima , bourgogne , stalin , Mecklenburg ... those are nice ships and most players loves them despite i dont like them honestly and i will not buy them i think ... but look at the the less played steel ships ... plymouth and ragnar ...  there is nothing called bad ship in this game , all ships has their strong points and weak points ...

 

but is it fun or not is the most important question ...

 

i  can manage doing high damage using ragnar , but if you ask me is it fun ? i will say no , it makes me tired spamming all these shells and listening to the gun fire sound all the battle ...

 

meaningless talk , i wil stop here ... i dont care really what you think about this ship because this is your own thing , i just said my opinion and it is based on my playing style ...

[ollonborre]

1 hour ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

 

this is a fire starter kiting dd ... no more .

 

It's a DD that wins games on its own, unlike the Elbing. If you want to talk about pure battle impact Ragnar and Småland are really hard to dethrone in that aspect.

 

On topic, if you enjoy playing a small cruiser without a citadel that can pretty much 1v1almost any DD you encounter thanks to lol radar and then proceed to farm down the enemy team, Ragnar is a solid pick.

[ItsEyeJasper]

32 minutes ago, ollonborre said:

It's a DD that wins games on its own, unlike the Elbing. If you want to talk about pure battle impact Ragnar and Småland are really hard to dethrone in that aspect.

 

On topic, if you enjoy playing a small cruiser without a citadel that can pretty much 1v1almost any DD you encounter thanks to lol radar and then proceed to farm down the enemy team, Ragnar is a solid pick.

If you are a good player.

If you are a player that is sitting on 45% W/R and you come across a player that is a 60% W/R Marceau. You Will die 8 / 10 times.

The same goes for a Smaland, I out gunned one in a Shimakaze and i am far from an amazing player. The thing is I have an over 60% W/r in my Shima but this guy in his Smaland was 41% and i knew how to pick my engagement with him.  I am not denying that Ragnar is a good pick, but if you cant play it well you are not going to have a good time.

[SV_Kompresor]

1 hour ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

you guys misunderstanding many things ...

 

all i am talking about is the fun ...

 

is it fun ship ? no ...

Yes. Yes it is. But then again talking about opinions is pointless here.

[Yedwy]

Well as most gunboats Ragnar for WR porposes will depend on the ability of the player to kill enemy DDs and survive, damage farming by fires on BBs and likes while annoying for the said will prob be deletorious for the WR purposes as its a waste of time in Rank

[Hirohito]

1 hour ago, CVs_Report_Blacklist said:

you guys misunderstanding many things ...

 

all i am talking about is the fun ...

 

is it fun ship ? no ...

 

besides what can distracting enemies gives you ? credits or xp ?

 

i took rank 1 in gold league about 30 times ... i dont care about winning in ranked , i just love 6 or 7 players each team ...

 

Ragnar is still good ship ,, not a bad ship , but the questions is does it worth it ? is it fun ? can you prefer playing her than other ships ?

 

comparing to other steel ships , would anybody prefer playing her  ???

 

you can see so many shikishima , bourgogne , stalin , Mecklenburg ... those are nice ships and most players loves them despite i dont like them honestly and i will not buy them i think ... but look at the the less played steel ships ... plymouth and ragnar ...  there is nothing called bad ship in this game , all ships has their strong points and weak points ...

 

but is it fun or not is the most important question ...

 

i  can manage doing high damage using ragnar , but if you ask me is it fun ? i will say no , it makes me tired spamming all these shells and listening to the gun fire sound all the battle ...

 

meaningless talk , i wil stop here ... i dont care really what you think about this ship because this is your own thing , i just said my opinion and it is based on my playing style ...

Uh, I am pretty sure that you heavily implied that Ragnar was bad (or at least not good) earlier, when you claimed it was worse than Elbing:

"just because some people played her good that doesnt mean the ship is good , but the player is ...

this is a fire starter kiting dd ... no more . "

Our answers reflect that this thing is very good, even if you now frame this as a fun issue.