[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,362 battles Report post #1 Posted July 8, 2022 Iwami is in shop 228.000 Coal or for doubloons etc.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-MD] SkipperCH Moderator, Players, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 6,894 posts 18,437 battles Report post #2 Posted July 8, 2022 I hardly suggest a pass. She isn’t worth the coal or dubloons. She has something from many trees but fails at everything. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #3 Posted July 8, 2022 I can't help looking at it and thinking that tier for tier my Kii is better, I know so many will tell me why I'm wrong and maybe I am but No not for me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #4 Posted July 8, 2022 Both Iwami and Aquila were in Logbook for this patch. But just Iwami, no Aquila, and it is the last weekend. Strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #5 Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, SkipperCH said: I hardly suggest a pass. She isn’t worth the coal or dubloons. She has something from many trees but fails at everything. Not saying that she looks like a good ship, but the secondaries with IFHE should be quite formidable for a T9, if you compare them to Schlieffen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-MD] SkipperCH Moderator, Players, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 6,894 posts 18,437 battles Report post #6 Posted July 8, 2022 No they’re not. Any HE shell will wipe your deck clean rendering any possible secondary build useless. In addition to that - Yes she has improved accuracy on her secondaries, but not improved range. And regarding Aquila - Just because a ship is in the logbook this doesn‘t imply a release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,900 battles Report post #7 Posted July 8, 2022 I bought it for coal and I still have 750K coal left.... I'm only going to use it in co-op though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #8 Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, SkipperCH said: No they’re not. Any HE shell will wipe your deck clean rendering any possible secondary build useless. In addition to that - I guess you are talking about the 100mm mounts. What exactly makes them more squishy than the 105mm on Schlieffen? 1 hour ago, SkipperCH said: Yes she has improved accuracy on her secondaries, but not improved range. As if 10.5km range is not enough to work with. 1 hour ago, SkipperCH said: And regarding Aquila - Just because a ship is in the logbook this doesn‘t imply a release. It did so far - would be the first time it does not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #9 Posted July 8, 2022 Wait she has only 8 guns? A fat-Nagato that found herself in tier IX? Poor thing. I have not followed her but I was under the impression she would be a Hizen "worth" playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #10 Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Maris_Piper said: I can't help looking at it and thinking that tier for tier my Kii is better, I know so many will tell me why I'm wrong and maybe I am but No not for me. its for coal, Kii is for money so... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #11 Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Maris_Piper said: I can't help looking at it and thinking that tier for tier my Kii is better, I know so many will tell me why I'm wrong and maybe I am but No not for me. Kii has old Izumo 1.7 sigma while Iwami having 8 guns but has Yamato 2.1 sigma. Izumo has 9 guns with 2.0 sigma. So it's ok. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #12 Posted July 8, 2022 Looks like the Hizen hull to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,167 battles Report post #13 Posted July 8, 2022 Might be better then Hizen due to more reliant accuracy but JPN BB’s ( exception being Amagi that has some turtleback) don’t take well broadsides. So a semi secondary ship without the resilience to brawl and main guns that scream “ we are good at a distance, no need to get close, makes this a ship with specifically added capabilities that you actually don’t want to use. For coal she is ok. For me with only Forest, Tulsa and Black as remaining competitors she might just be promoted to second in place in priority. With Forest only winning because T10 and thus better snowflake value. But with Kii, Musashi and Hizen in port there is not that much need. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-MD] SkipperCH Moderator, Players, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 6,894 posts 18,437 battles Report post #14 Posted July 8, 2022 What I‘m wondering is if the people discussing here have actually played her to make these statements. I played around 100 rounds in her in different configurations and all I can say is: She doesn‘t work as a brawler due to her slow turrets, combined with her awful short range dispersion She doesn‘t work as a sniper due to her horrendous dispersion at range (and her awful penetration) She doesn‘t work as a secondary build, because of her low secondary survivability and low range (compared to other secondary ships) To use her torpedos effectively you need to show your whole broadside And she lacks punch, because of her few barrels. Her sigma doesn‘t save her here. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #15 Posted July 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, SkipperCH said: She doesn‘t work as a secondary build, because of her low secondary survivability and low range (compared to other secondary ships) It would be great if you could give some evidence for this claim. What makes the turrets less survivable than those of Rupprecht? Because the secondaries actually get even more firepower on target than those of Rupprecht, which is interesting. Of course, Rupprecht has hydro, improved DCP, better torps. Still you are making the point about the survivability of the turrets and it would be nice to get some facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-MD] SkipperCH Moderator, Players, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 6,894 posts 18,437 battles Report post #16 Posted July 8, 2022 Since all of the replays I could provide are from her testing phase the answer is no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #17 Posted July 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, SkipperCH said: Since all of the replays I could provide are from her testing phase the answer is no. So it is just about your feeling when you played it, not about actual facts regarding the turret armor/HP. Well, did you at least use Auxiliary Armaments Modification 1? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-MD] SkipperCH Moderator, Players, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 6,894 posts 18,437 battles Report post #18 Posted July 8, 2022 I used all possible configurations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #19 Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said: its for coal, Kii is for money so... So I was comparing performance and see below Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-MD] SkipperCH Moderator, Players, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 6,894 posts 18,437 battles Report post #20 Posted July 8, 2022 She can be obtained for both. Coal or dubloons. Or directly for cash in the premium shop. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #21 Posted July 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Maris_Piper said: So I was comparing performance and see below read again, maybe you will get my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #22 Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, Wulf_Ace said: ead again, maybe you will get my point. I'd rather not old chap it's pretty boring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #23 Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, SkipperCH said: She doesn‘t work as a brawler due to her slow turrets, combined with her awful short range dispersion Since when is 35s for 180°, stock, considered "slow"? Just now, SkipperCH said: She doesn‘t work as a sniper due to her horrendous dispersion at range (and her awful penetration) She appears to have the same dispersion at range as the Izumo, and slightly better sigma. Since when is the Izumo a poor sniper? Be honest: you like her and you don't want anyone else to have her! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #24 Posted July 8, 2022 Yuzorah also says that the secondaries are squishy: https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-warships/world-of-warships-final-review-japanese-tier-ix-premium-battleship-iwami/ But to me it seems that all secondaries should have the same HP, see for example Schlieffen as comparison: @Seraphice are the secondary turrets on Iwami actually less survivable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-MD] SkipperCH Moderator, Players, WoWs Wiki Team, Freibeuter 6,894 posts 18,437 battles Report post #25 Posted July 8, 2022 From my point you can all go ahead and buy her xD Just don't cry afterwards. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
