Matchmaker Spawn Points

[CalypsoRaven]

I do understand there are complaints over matchmaking, my only brief remark on that is I wish It was based on 500,1000, 1500 etc ranges of battles played, if able.

Now my real issue is spawn points. I've studied lot for a while to see if there was such a thing as match making spawn points.

I just finished a game where I spawned at B and used turbo to go to A cap because that flank had no dd. Not only did the enemy dd half cap A, but they launched torps at the cruiser that final got there. I used turbo at start of the match and could not even get there fast enough to spot, or even get hit by enemy torps.

So please explain your spawn points in match making cause to me it seems you are giving the sportsmanship of playing a game away when I can't help a player even.

[ColonelPete]

He could have sailed more careful...

 

Spawns are ususlly mirrored in class, but Divisions can mess this up.

[CalypsoRaven]

I understand that. This was a gross overbalance of game play.

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

I understand that. This was a gross overbalance of game play.

Not really. Just a player that did not adapt to the situation.

[CalypsoRaven]

So the dd (Benson) gets a quick easy cap where he can't be contested, even by a dd running turbo trying to get to that cap at spawn, and the dd (Benson) can even have torps ready and already fired ona non dd, how is that fair? Should I just play cvs all day to override this flaw?

It's giving a team a cap right at the start of a match, so you are to adapt to that, really? I don't call that fair or a game or sportsmanship, I called that rigged to fail.

[ColonelPete]

12 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

So the dd (Benson) gets a quick easy cap where he can't be contested, even by a dd running turbo trying to get to that cap at spawn, and the dd (Benson) can even have torps ready and already fired ona non dd, how is that fair? Should I just play cvs all day to override this flaw?

It's giving a team a cap right at the start of a match, so you are to adapt to that, really? I don't call that fair or a game or sportsmanship, I called that rigged to fail.

• Why did you not go to B then?
• And where is the problem to just take A back?
• And the torpedo reload has nothing to do with spawn positions

[Aethervoxx]

I've often seen (being undertiered) the MM spawn placing lower tier ships on one flank against the top tier ships of the other team (along with mismatched numbers of ships) - that's an automatic 'rig to fail'.

 

[ColonelPete]

13 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

I've often seen (being undertiered) the MM spawn placing lower tier ships on one flank against the top tier ships of the other team (along with mismatched numbers of ships) - that's an automatic 'rig to fail'.

There are many ways WG rigs battles. It's so bad, in fact, imo, players quit in droves and/or they stop spending .

 

Only when one ignores that at least one of the other spawn locations of ones team now has a Tier advantage in exchange...

[CalypsoRaven]

you really insist on this. If I am team playing and I see a flank without a dd, I team play. stop making lame excuses.

That was a direct point to spawn match making even. Am I suppose to figure out the game is rigged and out think it?
If we go there, why play?

Cause you are telling me exactly what I was complaining about, you are setting up players to fail at spawn points even. If I went middle as you say, that cruiser was dead, and the bb near that is useless. He's running cause of spawn points. Is that really fair to any player? It was sure not fair to me, and I am helping them as a team player.

Let's get back to topic, WG are you rigging spawn points?

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

you really insist on this. If I am team playing and I see a flank without a dd, I team play. stop making lame excuses.

That was a direct point to spawn match making even. Am I suppose to figure out the game is rigged and out think it?
If we go there, why play?

• and the enemy also a has a cap without DD...
• it is your decision, not an excuse
• you have to outhink the enemy, not waste time on make-believe
• if you really think the game is rigged, then indeed the question is why you are still here?

[CalypsoRaven]

Automatically setting up a team with a easy cap by spawning them there that is unfair. I don't need to discuss this issue further. It's unfair.
Match making is unbalanced, I am sure I can find forums on this, but it went farther, match making and spawn points. Too much. I caught it finally.
I'll quit the game, go find a new job.

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

Automatically setting up a team with a easy cap by spawning them there that is unfair. I don't need to discuss this issue further. It's unfair.

So when one team has a free cap and the other team has a free cap, that is unfair?

Yeah... you better quit. I see no future for you here with that kind of thinking.

[CalypsoRaven]

I play the game. I don't see free caps. I contest, but if I cant get to a cap before they have a huge advantage, I guess I am supposed to "readjust", that is not a game, that is rigged game playing. Let's just run with your logic, cause this is rigged.

[CalypsoRaven]

How does a benson dd get half cap points and launches torps at nearest ship/cruiser and i cant even get there with turbos to do anything? I spawned mid, they had no dds there. How is any of it fair to any player? It happened to my team, so it will happen to them, none of that is fair. its bad game play due to scenario set up.

[ColonelPete]

10 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

I play the game. I don't see free caps. I contest, but if I cant get to a cap before they have a huge advantage, I guess I am supposed to "readjust", that is not a game, that is rigged game playing. Let's just run with your logic, cause this is rigged.

The enemy does not see them either...

When you go for a more distant cap, that is your choice.

7 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

How does a benson dd get half cap points and launches torps at nearest ship/cruiser and i cant even get there with turbos to do anything? I spawned mid, they had no dds there. How is any of it fair to any player? It happened to my team, so it will happen to them, none of that is fair. its bad game play due to scenario set up.

You had the option for a free cap, you did not take it.

If a cruiser or BB does not act careful, when then cap in front of them is very likely capped by an enemy DD with torps, then that is a problem of player skill and not MM.

[CalypsoRaven]

The whole gaming community wants team play, and you left yourself open on that discussion. I am suppose to leave other players hanging to lose, and take a easy cap, and other team gets an easy cap. That is trash games. I want players opinions. I dont want match making spawn points. I want that to stop, cause you are losing your custumers slowly and I am sure most would agree, you are doing it to yourself. We loved the game concept, but just hurting yourself.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, CalypsoRaven said:

The whole gaming community wants team play, and you left yourself open on that discussion. I am suppose to leave other players hanging to lose, and take a easy cap, and other team gets an easy cap. That is trash games. I want players opinions. I dont want match making spawn points. I want that to stop, cause you are losing your custumers slowly and I am sure most would agree, you are doing it to yourself. We loved the game concept, but just hurting yourself.

• no
• it is advantagous for your team to own a cap, that is teamplay
• it is advantagous for your team and the captain of the ship not to push into torps, that is teamplay
• the game is not losing customers on EU

[CalypsoRaven]

I am a NA/EU player so I know the numbers. I want to hear other players thoughts on this. Let it be.

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

I am a NA/EU player so I know the numbers. I want to hear other players thoughts on this. Let it be.

Then you know that the numbers are not decreasing. Why lie?

[CalypsoRaven]

I am not lying. Never said I was. I will admit I'm beta on NA server. I have lost a lot of players both NA and EU, and twitch talk, you know that is a community as well.
I don't have to make statement about anything, I am not doing propaganda. I generally had a serious question, and I get hassled.

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, CalypsoRaven said:

I am not lying. Never said I was. I will admit I'm beta on NA server. I have lost a lot of players both NA and EU, and twitch talk, you know that is a community as well.
I don't have to make statement about anything, I am not doing propaganda. I generally had a serious question, and I get hassled.

You stated the opposite of the truth, that is considered lying...

[CalypsoRaven]

Stay on topic. I don't have to prove client base. Time shows. I want the customer base information and thoughts on this and others in this game development. It changes my game play. It even spawns are rigged then I'll ignore it, and ignore team play (a issue ) and just go willy nilly. Why all the work? They understand that, and that is the players/customers. I wait for their reply. Your debate, I disagree with. that's okay, but you don't see it.

 

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, CalypsoRaven said:

Stay on topic. I don't have to prove client base. Time shows.

Then I suggest to stay on topic and leave things to time and not lies.

[CalypsoRaven]

I would suggest to not get personal about this. You went off topic, etcetera. I will not discuss this further with you. I don't know who you are.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, CalypsoRaven said:

I would suggest to not get personal about this. You went off topic, etcetera. I will not discuss this further with you. I don't know who you are.

Nothing personal here...