CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #1 Posted June 28, 2022 hi , i bought napoli 2 or 3 days ago ... and had a battle where a low cv was hitting me , and as everybody know , there is nothing you can do with cvs which already telling me there is no meaning open a new thread , but as like i dont know why am i opening one i also dont know why i still playing this game ... 60 k damage done by a coward cv ... what is the fun for me ? what is the play ? what can i do ? is this a play to begin with ? also i dont know what is the purpose having fighters just flying around and DO NOT attack cv planes attacking me ... are the pilots blind and cannot see the enemy planes ? used all the fighter consumable and : only 3 planes down !!! seriously ... i stopped playing this game because of cvs , i really thinking deleting the game for the good ... one want to play to have fun ... what is the fun when you can hit your opponent and he cant do anything to you ? what can i say more ? i tried to cap an area ... tried for minutes ... the stupid thing that i didnt cap it never ... cvs raining with his coward planes as spam ... edit spam removed 4 4 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #2 Posted June 28, 2022 my entire team sunk , i dont want to fight , if i go to port i get color pink with no xp and silver ... WG really loves torturing us ? why there is no surrender option ? just give me the choice to give up and go to port , instead of just staying like sand box for these ***** .... 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #3 Posted June 28, 2022 To be honest, AA is useless since the CV rework, but we need to find a level below useless to define fighters. 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #4 Posted June 28, 2022 The fighter and defensive AA consumables are just additional keys to press, besides "O", which shall convey the illusion that you could actually defend yourself and/or others against planes. If you want to stop planes from striking you, you need to play War Thunder - AA works fine there, both AI and manual. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #5 Posted June 28, 2022 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #6 Posted June 28, 2022 Whilst I’m certainly not a fan of the current AA situation, it’s not going to change any time soon. The defensive fighters have a lock on time to add some variety for CV player, any decent CV player can dodge them. When the game stops being fun just stop playing, I still dabble in the game but don’t play randoms anymore and I’m happier for it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #7 Posted June 28, 2022 Just like DefAA fighters are there to give you the illusion of counterplay against the carrier. With how they don't work, it is clear that WG put serious thought into making them useless. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #8 Posted June 28, 2022 I always thought the fighter consumable is there to spot ships behind islands when they fire on them with AA... Do they actually do anything else? 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V-I-P] deathsadow Players 816 posts 11,045 battles Report post #9 Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Shirakami_Kon said: To be honest, AA is useless since the CV rework, but we need to find a level below useless to define fighters. I seriously wonder why would anyone use the fighter, its just a spotter plane without the range bonus XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #10 Posted June 28, 2022 Yeah, but did you dodge? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #11 Posted June 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said: I always thought the fighter consumable is there to spot ships behind islands when they fire on them with AA... Do they actually do anything else? The fighter consumable obviously represents the gimmick of Katori at T3. Completely useless, but a gimmick: "Has access to the Catapult Fighter consumable, giving her additional protection from low-tier carrier players and additional ability to spot enemy ships." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #12 Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Nov_A said: Yeah, but did you dodge? I always dodge CVs, I rather take a devstrike from another ship than give money and xp to the carrier... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #13 Posted June 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, deathsadow said: I seriously wonder why would anyone use the fighter, its just a spotter plane without the range bonus XD Some low tier ships have no other options, so it gives you false expectations that the reason there's a fighter consumable there is because it does something like all the other ones. Even if it's something pitiful like DefAA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobtherterrible Players 867 posts 14,307 battles Report post #14 Posted June 28, 2022 The purpose of fighters is that after the CV has successfuly hit you, they shoot down a couple of the CV's aircraft which then are magically re-spawned in the carrier's hangar. Agincourt is the best. At least there's no annoying AA noises going of while the CV is reaming you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #15 Posted June 28, 2022 it spots subs siting 2.3 km of your bow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #16 Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, bobtherterrible said: Agincourt is the best. At least there's no annoying AA noises going of while the CV is reaming you. Well as it doesn't make a huge amount of difference.. might as well be quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,912 battles Report post #17 Posted June 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Sayeren_11 said: only 3 planes down !!! I would say that's damned impressive, given how useless fighters are at ... fighting other aircraft. Given the choice I would rather take a spotter plane any day. Imagine Nurnburg & Atago with a spotter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #18 Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, lovelacebeer said: Whilst I’m certainly not a fan of the current AA situation, it’s not going to change any time soon. Bearn type fighters for all! I'm not sure if they are easily avoided as conventional fighters but they certainly *can* knock a whole squadron down. I would quite like a set of ships capable of delivering powerful support to others - I know there has been some talk of support CVs but Command-and-Control Cruisers would also be a good addition. Take a "standard" cruiser, perhaps a tier higher than its usual spot, and give it the ability to run patrol planes, powerful Bearn type CAP squads, an airstrike / smoke screen dro p(on a reasonable mutual cooldown, of course) and we'd have something interesting. We have plenty of evidence now that neither Dutch airstrikes or hybrid ships have ruined the game, so why not go further? It would also allow further historical (real-world) cruisers in the game rather encouraging WG's napkin designs, as many of those ships were fitted out for this "flagship" role - I can think of an entire Commonwealth line working like this, along with other missing ships like the Northampton, Fargo and Juneau classes, perhaps the Mikuma/Suzuya, Admiral Scheer / Lutzow, Bellona, Sheffield, Superb, Blake - they'd all be much more interesting made this way than with their standard armament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #19 Posted June 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Sayeren_11 said: what is the fun for me ? according to WG tyring to "dodge" is fun and engaging. Quote what is the play ? there is no play. you must hope that enemy CV lacks functional brain cells or hands. Quote what can i do ? pray for enemy CV to be a complete potato. Quote is this a play to begin with ? according to WG, it is. Quote also i dont know what is the purpose having fighters just flying around and DO NOT attack cv planes attacking me ... there is no purpose. thats why you dont use fighter consumable because its useless anyway. Quote seriously ... i stopped playing this game because of cvs , i really thinking deleting the game for the good ... one want to play to have fun ... what is the fun when you can hit your opponent and he cant do anything to you ? thank WG for this. Their "brilliant" CV rework deleted CV counters and here we are. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #20 Posted June 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Sayeren_11 said: i really thinking deleting the game for the good ... It's the only way to really get the message across unfortunately. Maybe add an appropriate review in steam and other sites what you think about the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #21 Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Nibenay78 said: I always dodge CVs, I rather take a devstrike from another ship than give money and xp to the carrier... 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #22 Posted June 28, 2022 Well a certain amount of clueless players and even forumites asked for the rework/changes, and here we are. Some warned them but alas, deaf ears. Better the devil you know ay. I used to destroy whole wings of planes with a tier 8 DD which couldnt be replaced. Now it's pointless even having defensive AA on any ship. The true power of rework CV's came aparent in CB's, with that season being the worst, by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #23 Posted June 28, 2022 Fighter planes are useful, launch them right before you die to provide one minute of spotting for your team. Other than that, no idea what they're for. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] Port_Authority Players 320 posts 22,661 battles Report post #24 Posted June 28, 2022 Almost nothing can stop a CV attack. That's design. They will always get the first strike in. WG made anti-air consumables practically useless for the wielder and situationally useful for the team. If your nearby teammates have them active it's more likely that CV will lose planes after the first strike. You need to understand that CV players don't play against you and your ship, they play against time. You're just a prop in most of the cases. 54 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said: thank WG for this. Their "brilliant" CV rework deleted CV counters and here we are. Remember the old days when some ships were bastions and others had nothing to defend themselves against RTS CV? Some wargaming staff stated that this design is unacceptable because a random ship can't depend on random allies. And now we have design where you need multiple allies around you just to thwart second, third, and repeated strikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #25 Posted June 28, 2022 You use them to see what's around a corner when your ship can't slot hydro (or anything else) instead - I don't think anyone ever uses them to shoot down a plane or expects them to shoot down plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
