Do CV players even look at the map, have situational awareness?

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

I've lost the count of cv player who died to a dd because they REFUSED to listen to all the pinging and warning. Is it really hard to look at the map from time to time? It was a damn Chaklov too, he could [edited]him up with non-stop strikes, but he refused to do it. Enemy dd wasn't even an AA dd either, it was the tier 8 Hsenyang. 

 

Some cv players think we hate them because they can do damage without being countered. BUT NO! We also hate you when you don't know which ship to prioritize. WG put all the power in one ship, and let it loose. Those who know the capabilities are doing wonders, and those who forgot where their W key is doing more damage than good to their team.

 

There should be a whole videos and in-game tutorials for each ship class. FFS play your game for once, and you will know what I'm talking about.

 

TBH if you let an enemy dd roam free and wreck havok, or let them get really close to you, then you suck at playing cv's. 

You must be on him all the time even if he shreds your planes, that will ruin their plan, and your team can kill it.

[Captain_Lootbox]

I think some CV players forget that their mobile airfield can get attacked.

[Captain_82]

11 minutes ago, ARE_YOU_HUMAN said:

I've lost the count of cv player who died to a dd because they REFUSED to listen to all the pinging and warning. Is it really hard to look at the map from time to time? It was a damn Chaklov too, he could [edited]him up with non-stop strikes, but he refused to do it. Enemy dd wasn't even an AA dd either, it was the tier 8 Hsenyang. 

 

Some cv players think we hate them because they can do damage without being countered. BUT NO! We also hate you when you don't know which ship to prioritize. WG put all the power in one ship, and let it loose. Those who know the capabilities are doing wonders, and those who forgot where their W key is doing more damage than good to their team.

 

There should be a whole videos and in-game tutorials for each ship class. FFS play your game for once, and you will know what I'm talking about.

 

TBH if you let an enemy dd roam free and wreck havok, or let them get really close to you, then you suck at playing cv's. 

You must be on him all the time even if he shreds your planes, that will ruin their plan, and your team can kill it.

 

Are you really surprised given the average intelligence of the CV-playerbase?

[ColonelPete]

Some do not. Some are so preoccupied with dropping stuff on ships that they miss that they are playing a carrier and not an airfield, that cannot move.

[lovelacebeer]

The good ones are aware of the mini map and have the ability to influence anywhere on the battle. The bad ones think they are commanding an immovable airfield and are shocked when they are attacked despite being repeatedly warned to move their ship. 
 

There are bad players in all class naturally, it’s just when it comes to CVs it’s considerable more obvious and impactful on the game when compared to other classes.

[Wulf_Ace]

Well I also like million ping and screams I need AA support, and if you do not provide one you are an idiot CV who doesnt know how to play. What about an idiot player who doesnt know how CVs work, or like fighters dont do crap against Russian CVs. 

CVs cant be at 10 places at the same time! And they cant put fighters over an idiot, and attack DDs, and attack ships that are low hp and do whatever you like just beacouse you want them to.

Yes sometimes they dont move beacouse they are preoccupied by helping the team or they bealive team will protect them or something else. Sometimes the problem is YOU not the CV.

Playing ranked, 4 minutes out, 3 ships dead, and they all blame CV, wow I guess CV should have played their ships so they dont die, bunch of noobs. 

Sometimes the problem is YOU.!

[Pururut]

Maybe he just didn't pay attention to begin with? Either way the self-defeating case of ingame tutorials have been covered before so in lieu with OPs pfp I will say this; Embrace monke, return to tier 1 or 2. Ironically since Yuro posted his Eire video tier 1 became host to some of the most hardcore matches I have ever seen.

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

11 minutes ago, Pururut said:

Maybe he just didn't pay attention to begin with? Either way the self-defeating case of ingame tutorials have been covered before so in lieu with OPs pfp I will say this; Embrace monke, return to tier 1 or 2. Ironically since Yuro posted his Eire video tier 1 became host to some of the most hardcore matches I have ever seen.

 

I was here for the memes and laughs, but even that died quick when in two games today the cv in my team literally died to a dd.

They were literally free food. 

[_Lupastro_]

Why this post? They're my fav CV players. They have to do exactly this....

 

[Lootboxer]

1 hour ago, Captain_Lootbox said:

I think some CV players forget that their airfield can move.

FIFY

Also, old truth is: dead CV is a good CV.

If he's potatoing he deserves to go to port as doesa any other ship. Shame about his team, but then pprobably even alive wouldn't do much anyway (except for accidental spoting) to help win.

[Nov_A]

CV bad!

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, Captain_Lootbox said:

I think some CV players forget that their mobile airfield can get attacked.

I think sometimes other players also forget what a CV is. Sometimes I die to DD, because:

- it is the end game, my team already won/lost - let the DD kill me, I'll blap that other (important) DD/cruiser/BB for my mates;

- yeah I could spam him to death... maybe I will, but maybe I'll also just lead him away... meanwhile murdering half his team;

- mind that moving position, you will still be spotted by that DD... and getting shot by his teammates. Cvs can be blapped, too.
- that DD, after having killed my CV, is now mostly useless (when I am at the rear 30km away from a cap...). 

 

Also, when a DD manages to get through my teammates - well he kinda deserves the kill, you agree? 
Usually I have spotted him a few times, dropped a "fighter" (eh..) on him, and they still did not take him down. 
So, he is kinda good, or my team is kinda stupid. 

 

 

[ollonborre]

I mean this entire thread could be renamed to "Do players even look at the minimap?" to be perfectly honest.

[BLUB__BLUB]

20 minutes ago, Nov_A said:

CV bad!

 CV always is to blame, Stupid CV! Deserves -1 karma (LOLLLL!!!) 

Just harvest the salt, I say. There's plenty of it... 

 

Spoiler

 

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, ARE_YOU_HUMAN said:

I've lost the count of cv player who died to a dd because they REFUSED to listen to all the pinging and warning.

 Well, usually the chart consists of people yelling and expecting you to go and hold their hand at the other side of the map. 

I think most of the CV players don't  watch the chat or just have it turned off.

In the game above they (the sub player) wanted me to keep everything spotted for him so he'd have an easy time. 

Meanwhile, he wasn't doing anything for the team... like securing an empty cap that he travelled through.

Also - and he was even crap at hitting stuff. 

 

Yelling "CV spot dumbass inbreed (fill in more insults right there) or I give you -" is not really gonna help... FF you.

So no I didn't save him from the red Kita instead I farmed some on the red Montana, as the game was 300pts vs 700 anyway.

Oh yeah and I also ran in guns blazing trying to ram something... that Kita just deserved the kill.  

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, ARE_YOU_HUMAN said:

TBH if you let an enemy dd roam free and wreck havok, or let them get really close to you, then you suck at playing cv's. 

You must be on him all the time even if he shreds your planes, that will ruin their plan, and your team can kill it.

I think not. Without CVs ships have to deal with DDs too. 

Thinking "the Cv will solve it, no matter if he loses all his planes" is kinda dumb. 

By now there have been so many nerfs, surface ships are expected to contribute. 

 

yeah you can spot DDs. Then it is mostly up to the teammates to nip them. 

If they don't, well. Just go farm BBs and shred everything like WeeGee intended. 

[Bear__Necessities]

Every sunk CV should be a celebration. 

[Miragetank90]

A Good CV player understands prioritization and the DD isn't always the priority. Sometimes you need to be doing other things to secure the win. 

But anyway, if a CV player finds himself getting tidily wrecked by DDs the fundamentals are missing. 

[El2aZeR]

This is the WoWs playerbase. The majority probably doesn't even know what the minimap is.

[tocqueville8]

It's not just the CVs that don't see the DD coming or look for it. It's also:

 

• those that stay immovable in the spawn even though a flank is collapsing, and get overrun by half the enemy team (not a lone DD/sub)
• even worse, those that deliberately go hide in a corner and get cut off by the enemy push: they know how to use the minimap and waypoints, but they're just stupid
• those that don't move forward in the late game, even though it's both safe and necessary
• those that "hide" behind an island that is too low, too small or both, and get Dev Struck by any competent BB

[Sunleader]

4 hours ago, ARE_YOU_HUMAN said:

I've lost the count of cv player who died to a dd because they REFUSED to listen to all the pinging and warning. Is it really hard to look at the map from time to time? It was a damn Chaklov too, he could [edited]him up with non-stop strikes, but he refused to do it. Enemy dd wasn't even an AA dd either, it was the tier 8 Hsenyang. 

 

Some cv players think we hate them because they can do damage without being countered. BUT NO! We also hate you when you don't know which ship to prioritize. WG put all the power in one ship, and let it loose. Those who know the capabilities are doing wonders, and those who forgot where their W key is doing more damage than good to their team.

 

There should be a whole videos and in-game tutorials for each ship class. FFS play your game for once, and you will know what I'm talking about.

 

TBH if you let an enemy dd roam free and wreck havok, or let them get really close to you, then you suck at playing cv's. 

You must be on him all the time even if he shreds your planes, that will ruin their plan, and your team can kill it.

 

Overwhelming Majority of Players in this Game dont even know what Situational Awareness is.

 

[Andrewbassg]

5 hours ago, Captain_Lootbox said:

I think some CV players forget that their mobile plane factories can get attacked.

Fixed a bit....

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, Sunleader said:

 

Overwhelming Majority of Players in this Game dont even know what Situational Awareness is.

 

Well I'm kinda crap with that as well, but at least I know when it is time to move my butt. 

I suppose there's a whole load of players that doesn't ever play anything else than CVs or BBs or something though. 
And they just haven't got a clue. 

 

Like today, I cleared the A-cap (in T8 Kaga), and they still didn't move in - then finally a T6 Sinop did. 
Meanwhile I had also cleared the B-cap... killed two, rest were running... again it was that Sinop. Who got killed, of course.

All the T8s (5 of them...) who had gone A-cap were still behind a mountain. The red DD (killed Sinop...) was pushing into the A cap, had gone around...

So, I torped him (LMAO...) and then went into cap myself. Next up, they all Yolo forward AROUND the cap and die like flies. 

[Cpt_Andre]

9 hours ago, ARE_YOU_HUMAN said:

I've lost the count of cv player who died to a dd because they REFUSED to listen to all the pinging and warning. Is it really hard to look at the map from time to time? It was a damn Chaklov too, he could [edited]him up with non-stop strikes, but he refused to do it. Enemy dd wasn't even an AA dd either, it was the tier 8 Hsenyang. 

 

Some cv players think we hate them because they can do damage without being countered. BUT NO! We also hate you when you don't know which ship to prioritize. WG put all the power in one ship, and let it loose. Those who know the capabilities are doing wonders, and those who forgot where their W key is doing more damage than good to their team.

 

There should be a whole videos and in-game tutorials for each ship class. FFS play your game for once, and you will know what I'm talking about.

 

TBH if you let an enemy dd roam free and wreck havok, or let them get really close to you, then you suck at playing cv's. 

You must be on him all the time even if he shreds your planes, that will ruin their plan, and your team can kill it.

Have you played convoy mode?

The mechanic of this game mode is pretty straight forward, but... oh boy... game sense/situational awareness is rare among all classes.

 

And compared to the other classes everybody can see the CVs missplays from far away/on the minimap. So don't die early and check what your mates are doing, 'cause it's shocking... (launching torps out of range, sailing without awareness for closer more important targets around, broadsiding, HE-spamming, ... ,etc)

[Spellfire40]

Wonder if the OP has tryed single player games if he cant deal with a normal evening in any multiplayer one without lesseing the life of his keybord by angry typing