Public Test permacamo prices...

[Purnylla]

This is ridiculous...

 

The normal basic permacamo (so just the skin, not the eco bonus) costs 200 doubloons for a tier X. 

 

However, in the past, during some event, I received a permacamo for free.

 

Which apparently means, that the normal permacamo for that ship (also tier X), now costs 5000 doubloons, which is 25 times as expensive as it would be if WG didn't give me a free camo. 

 

So, imagine, I like the regular Yamato camo more than the K117 Yamato camo I once got for free. If I'd ask support to remove the K117 from my account, I could buy the regular camo for 200 doubloons? 

 

I know no other game that charges customers more for a skin, just because they already have a skin. It's way more common to give customers a discount instead (because, you know, those who buy several skins tend to be loyal customers). 

 

Seriously, Wargaming, what the hell? 

 

[SV_Kompresor]

I don't get it. Are you complaining that nothing has changed with how it is curently?

[Purnylla]

2 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

I don't get it.

You don't get what?

 

The first permacamo for a ship is considerably cheaper than buying a second permacamo. That's what WG did.

 

When they give you a permacamo for a ship as a reward for some mission, they're basically giving you a huge price increase for any other permacamo you might want to buy. And they're basically telling you not to be a loyal customer, because they're punishing you for buying a permacamo. 

[SV_Kompresor]

Just now, Purnylla said:

You don't get what?

 

The first permacamo for a ship is considerably cheaper than buying a second permacamo. That's what WG did.

 

When they give you a permacamo for a ship as a reward for some mission, they're basically giving you a huge price increase for any other permacamo you might want to buy.

So....it's the same as it always was.

[Purnylla]

Just now, SV_Kompresor said:

So....it's the same as it always was.

Forget how it was. Try to look at this from a newcomers perspective. What other game do you know that charges someone MORE for a SKIN just because they already own a skin?

[SV_Kompresor]

3 minutes ago, Purnylla said:

Forget how it was. Try to look at this from a newcomers perspective. What other game do you know that charges someone MORE for a SKIN just because they already own a skin?

In my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a perma camo if you already have one. I mean, sure wg could make it cheaper....but then again they could've made purchases of a second perma camo cheaper years ago. It hasn't bothered people before so...

 

Guess they should've just kept the camo and bonuses coupled and not give players to buy just the first camo separately.

[Purnylla]

1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said:

In my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a perma camo if you already have one. I mean, sure wg could make it cheaper....but then again they could've made purchases of a second perma camo cheaper years ago. It hasn't bothered people before so...

Because in the current (old) system, most people I know buy a permacamo because of the economic bonuses. But since camos will no longer be giving bonuses in next patch, it's basically just a skin. It's only purpose is to look different, that's the whole point of skins. 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

I dont get it either.

 

"Current permacamos will have two parts: Visuals and permanent economic booster. If you have more permanent economic boosters for the same ship, you should be able to choose which one you want to use in the battle. Those are not stack, basically as now, when you can't use two permacamos at the same time on one ship."

 

If I understand correctly, permacamos will keep their economical bonuses, while expendable camos will become pure cosmetics.

All bonuses of expendable camos in stock when the change goes live will be transferred to the new system.

 

So whats the problem here?

[Purnylla]

This is not about the economic bonuses. This is about the skin. The cosmetic part. 

 

Getting one skin, means any other skin of that ship increases in price, massively, up to 25 times. Come on, I can't be the only one who thinks that's very strange... 

 

There's plenty of games selling skins, but I've never seen one game where skins increase in price just because you already own a skin (either bought, or unlocked through event/mission). 

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

If the camo does not provide any boni, why don't you just use some mod? I guess there are plenty skin mods around, and it offers the additional benefit that other players don't have to filter out ugly skins people are parading around to kill the last remnants of immersion.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

4 minutes ago, Purnylla said:

This is not about the economic bonuses. This is about the skin. The cosmetic part. 

 

Getting one skin, means any other skin of that ship increases in price, massively, up to 25 times. Come on, I can't be the only one who thinks that's very strange... 

 

There's plenty of games selling skins, but I've never seen one game where skins increase in price just because you already own a skin (either bought, or unlocked through event/mission). 

 

You my friend are delusional.

 

What you are saying ... If I buy a car, a second car must be half price.

Each permacamo has a price. Buy one .. if you really want two .. then buy two. If the second should be cheaper its WGs decision.

 

Eg. Fortnite (where skins are pure cosmetics) ... there is no reduced prices for them ... and people own HUNDREDS of them

[RenamedUser_92906789]

30 minutes ago, Purnylla said:

which is 25 times as expensive as it would be if WG didn't give me a free camo

And this made me giggle :D

[Purnylla]

Just now, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

What you are saying ... If I buy a car, a second car must be half price.

No, that's not what I'm saying.

 

What I'm saying is, that the second car will be 25x as expensive just because I already have the first car. 

 

Try it on public test. 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

1 minute ago, Purnylla said:

No, that's not what I'm saying.

 

What I'm saying is, that the second car will be 25x as expensive just because I already have the first car. 

 

Try it on public test. 

 

Ahh .. so the first permacamo is 200 dbls and the next one is 5000 ? Apparently I did not understand what you were saying... is this correct?

 

Im sorry I dont use PTS ... i already got a job ;D

[Purnylla]

Ok, perhaps pictures work better;

 

Public Test, Kléber has three camos (purely cosmetic) available for purchase. I own none of these three camos.

 

Now, I buy the third camo, the French Navy one, for 1200 doubloons.

 

Look what happened to the prices of the other two camos;

[Pukovnik7]

Yeah, that is just insane. Normally, if you showed me that, I would assume it is a programming bug, but knowing WarGaming...

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

It is simple WG logic, whoever is ready to spend might be willing to spend more for the same later. ^^

[Purnylla]

I know where it comes from. I mean, in the current system, buying a 2nd permacamo gives you no extra bonuses, and it still costs 5000 doubloons. That's probably WGs reasoning.

 

But from a new players perspective, unknown to the old system, this is very, very strange.

 

It also means that in the future, one should be careful to get any permacamos, as it increases the price of any other permacamos. So if ship skins are a thing you like, be careful not to receive an ugly skin.

[Shirakami_Kon]

What I don't get is how they expect us to spend 45k credits every battle for a merely visual camo. They have to be kidding.

[invicta2012]

55 minutes ago, Purnylla said:

Getting one skin, means any other skin of that ship increases in price, massively, up to 25 times. Come on, I can't be the only one who thinks that's very strange... 

They're all discounted, to start with. You can see the % ticket on all of the camouflages. Then when you buy the first one, you've used your discount and the price goes up *to the normal price*. So buy the one you want when you have the discount ticket. 

 

18 minutes ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

What I don't get is how they expect us to spend 45k credits every battle for a merely visual camo. They have to be kidding.

That's the resupply/new purchase cost, it's somewhere between 22-90K credits depending on what type of camo you're applying. I'm not sure how much it is now as I never run the Auto-Resupply option on camos but I presume it's somewhere in the same ballpark.

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

39 minutes ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

What I don't get is how they expect us to spend 45k credits every battle for a merely visual camo. They have to be kidding.

45k? This is the medium price section. There are also camos for 90k. But, like this thread shows, people are willing to spend on cosmetic item without any functional traits.

[Purnylla]

1 hour ago, invicta2012 said:

They're all discounted, to start with. You can see the % ticket on all of the camouflages. Then when you buy the first one, you've used your discount and the price goes up *to the normal price*. So buy the one you want when you have the discount ticket. 

Except that I didn't buy the K117 camo for the Yamato. I received it for a mission a long while ago. 

[Shirakami_Kon]

1 hour ago, invicta2012 said:

They're all discounted, to start with. You can see the % ticket on all of the camouflages. Then when you buy the first one, you've used your discount and the price goes up *to the normal price*. So buy the one you want when you have the discount ticket. 

 

That's the resupply/new purchase cost, it's somewhere between 22-90K credits depending on what type of camo you're applying. I'm not sure how much it is now as I never run the Auto-Resupply option on camos but I presume it's somewhere in the same ballpark.

 

1 hour ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said:

45k? This is the medium price section. There are also camos for 90k. But, like this thread shows, people are willing to spend on cosmetic item without any functional traits.

Well, to each their own, I guess... Seems like I'll wear all my tech tree ships with no visual camo ever again, which is sad, but it is what it is it seems.

 

I'm personally never ever paying credits for expendable visual camos with no benefit whatsoever. I'm not stupid. I'd be willing to spend credits for visual camos if they were permanent once applied or if I wanted to change it for another permanent one. Something like if there was a new equipment slot like for upgrade modules that's for the purely visual camo to apply. With a credit cost to apply one, but it stays there permanently until you purchase another one to replace it or choose to remove it for whatever reason. But no way for something that will be gone next match.

[Siagor]

5 minutes ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

I'll wear all my tech tree ships with no visual camo ever again, which is sad, but it is what it is it seems.

 

 

Some of us rejoice, you know? 

There are monstrosities like this one. 

 

[Miragetank90]

1 hour ago, Purnylla said:

Except that I didn't buy the K117 camo for the Yamato. I received it for a mission a long while ago. 

 

If that is the case, I would hope that since you simply received it and didn't actually purchase it, the discount would still apply when you actually buy one.

 

Fingers crossed. If not, then yeah, that would suck.