superships service cost

[Cyberstorm1981]

i grinded the satsuma the full 57 million and i bought the 5000 doubloons perm camo and what i noticed....after few battles had 110k damage because if you hit a few everybody runs like hell from you.

and end results 282k credits earned in victory match ok 282k not bad....service cost 360.000 credits and 80k ammunition ???wtf wg 440k credits i grinded 57 million and a camo of 16eu to get a ship where i even have to pay 165k credits instead earning credits.....sorry thats a little over nooo??sorry but in this case not many players will be intrested in superships  you do the long grind to t10 than the 57million for the supership.......isnt that enough to get a ship that at least can pay the service cost and ammunition resuply ???this is not ment to break down wg but as postive advice of feedback to maybe think over.....what do you guys think over the high cost of supership ? 

[SV_Kompresor]

Have you tried checking what you are planning to buy before you actually do it? How exactly would superships be a credit sink if you could buy a perma camo with 50% service cost reduction?

 

I'd prefer it if (some) superships weren't OP so that the service costs could be brought down, but since that's not the case, it's a good thing that they cost a lot.

[JeanLouisII]

You perfectly fall into wgs trap.

Now go to the armory and buy some credits for dubloons.

 

Or maybe learn how to get better at wows and earn more credits per battle

 

 

[Cyberstorm1981]

i agree they cost a lot but at least if you dont earn credits get even income 0 lost 0 win 0 

[Cyberstorm1981]

but at least you played the ship and earned xp  a lot........... now you have ship that 11 people in battle are scared to fight and if you cant damage enough you have to pay for it .......i dont know for me supership is not intressting than 

[ziratulbihac]

Just like in WoT, you simply do not earn credits with highest tier tanks/ships.

You grind silver with lower tier premium tanks/ships

[mdjmcnally]

At the risk of upsetting people then was pretty well flagged in advance about the high service costs for superships.

 

WG have even made it so that you don’t have to get them for the reasearch bureau resets.

 

will either need to be 

 

A) very good and score well to break even.

B) have large credit base already

C) be prepared to buy credits to fund playing superships.

D) just don’t bother with them.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

but at least you played the ship and earned xp  a lot........... now you have ship that 11 people in battle are scared to fight and if you cant damage enough you have to pay for it .......i dont know for me supership is not intressting than 

So you play ships for the credits and not for the fun?

[Cyberstorm1981]

3 minutes ago, JeanLouisII said:

You perfectly fall into wgs trap.

Now go to the armory and buy some credits for dubloons.

 

Or maybe learn how to get better at wows.

 

 

thats the problem m8te if you are good they notice it and believe me with satsuma almost nobody counter me and went running from the first salvo you shoot and hit...so getting good is not the problem first need targets who dear too stay and counter me 

[Cyberstorm1981]

i dont gonna answer that i play wows from 09/2015 and you ask me if i dont play for fun ??

[JeanLouisII]

Vor 14 Minuten, Cyberstorm1981 sagte:

thats the problem m8te if you are good they notice it and believe me with satsuma almost nobody counter me and went running from the first salvo you shoot and hit...so getting good is not the problem first need targets who dear too stay and counter me 

So pls tell me how "good"players are able to have double average damage in satsuma than you when u say they all run from first good salvo... 

 

More damage more credits.

[ColonelPete]

12 minutes ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i dont gonna answer that i play wows from 09/2015 and you ask me if i dont play for fun ??

You complain about credit earnings and declare the ship to not be interesting because of that.

What other conclusions should one draw?

[ZeuSueZ1337]

21 minutes ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i dont gonna answer that i play wows from 09/2015 and you ask me if i dont play for fun ??

.....a WR of 45% (9k battles, 7 years) suggest that you're mostly in it for the lulz, no?

 

On a serious note; the fact that you posted an "oMg ThEeSe SupAhShIpS aRe InSaNeLy ExPeNsIvE tO mAinTaIn"-post, also suggest that you should pull your head out of your be-hind.

This forum, sub-reddits, Youtube, Twitch etc. have been flooding the past several months with warnings that superships basically are a funny word for "ze credit purge".

If you wanna play superships, 90% of the playerbase (this signature included) are gonna have to fork over real-world dollari to service them. Hard pass for my part.

 

Honest suggestion; stop sailing em'.

 

I've only purchase them hoping for phat l00t come anniversary and/or snowflakes.

Otherwise they are proud rust queens.

[Fastmotion]

I like only 2 T11 CVs but i don't like 2DDs and 1 BB which i have.

The cost is high. i pay around 400k after every CV battle.

If you accumulate 10 millions then you can enjoy super CVs for some evenings and then you start to collect credits again.

I think the high cost is a method/tool to keep the thing more rare. Like some expensive sport clubs are almost empty most times and that is the goal just like the high maintenance cost word T11 CVs.

I suggest that play T10 CVs/Subs most of the time and 1-2 evening per week enjoy T11 ones and everything is good.

There is nothing really to complain about in the Wows. I don't see the high cost of the ships a problem either. People just try to be like the mainstream who thinks that complaining is popular.

[hellhound666]

1 hour ago, SV_Kompresor said:

Have you tried checking what you are planning to buy before you actually do it?

 

[BrusilovX]

1 hour ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i grinded the satsuma the full 57 million and i bought the 5000 doubloons perm camo and what i noticed....after few battles had 110k damage because if you hit a few everybody runs like hell from you.

Getting only 110K damage is quite low to be honest. 

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i grinded the satsuma the full 57 million and i bought the 5000 doubloons perm camo and what i noticed....after few battles had 110k damage because if you hit a few everybody runs like hell from you.

and end results 282k credits earned in victory match ok 282k not bad....service cost 360.000 credits and 80k ammunition ???wtf wg 440k credits i grinded 57 million and a camo of 16eu to get a ship where i even have to pay 165k credits instead earning credits.....sorry thats a little over nooo??sorry but in this case not many players will be intrested in superships  you do the long grind to t10 than the 57million for the supership.......isnt that enough to get a ship that at least can pay the service cost and ammunition resuply ???this is not ment to break down wg but as postive advice of feedback to maybe think over.....what do you guys think over the high cost of supership ? 

Working as intended I d say…

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

1 hour ago, ziratulbihac said:

Just like in WoT, you simply do not earn credits with highest tier tanks/ships.

You grind silver with lower tier premium tanks/ships

Except being a good player is mandatory to earn credits in high tier WoT, and everyone can earn credits in high tier WoWs (excluding super ships). The economy is extremely generous in this game. The upcoming rework might become a shitshow, but you will be rewarded for playing well when it comes to credit income.

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

1 hour ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

thats the problem m8te if you are good they notice it

You don't need to build for concealment, then.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

1 hour ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i grinded the satsuma the full 57 million and i bought the 5000 doubloons perm camo and what i noticed....after few battles had 110k damage because if you hit a few everybody runs like hell from you.

and end results 282k credits earned in victory match ok 282k not bad....service cost 360.000 credits and 80k ammunition ???wtf wg 440k credits i grinded 57 million and a camo of 16eu to get a ship where i even have to pay 165k credits instead earning credits.....sorry thats a little over nooo??sorry but in this case not many players will be intrested in superships  you do the long grind to t10 than the 57million for the supership.......isnt that enough to get a ship that at least can pay the service cost and ammunition resuply ???this is not ment to break down wg but as postive advice of feedback to maybe think over.....what do you guys think over the high cost of supership ? 

I recommend AWSD hack

[The_Chiv]

1 hour ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i grinded the satsuma the full 57 million and i bought the 5000 doubloons perm camo and what i noticed....after few battles had 110k damage because if you hit a few everybody runs like hell from you.

and end results 282k credits earned in victory match ok 282k not bad....service cost 360.000 credits and 80k ammunition ???wtf wg 440k credits i grinded 57 million and a camo of 16eu to get a ship where i even have to pay 165k credits instead earning credits.....sorry thats a little over nooo??sorry but in this case not many players will be intrested in superships  you do the long grind to t10 than the 57million for the supership.......isnt that enough to get a ship that at least can pay the service cost and ammunition resuply ???this is not ment to break down wg but as postive advice of feedback to maybe think over.....what do you guys think over the high cost of supership ? 

So this is a bit of a necro thread, and I can not be bothered to link the original. Before XI became a thing it was not uncommon for tier X  ships to earn a negative income. So by that same logic the negative credit impact of playing these ships should also be a bit more punishing then X's.

1 hour ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i agree they cost a lot but at least if you dont earn credits get even income 0 lost 0 win 0 

This was done intentionally due to the massive power swing these ships can provide. If they didnt every Tier X match would be nothing but XI's and those not in XI's would be farmed. Seriously if you ever play the Conde you will understand why.

1 hour ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

thats the problem m8te if you are good they notice it and believe me with satsuma almost nobody counter me and went running from the first salvo you shoot and hit...so getting good is not the problem first need targets who dear too stay and counter me 

Its not about being good or bad, its all about not making yourself an obvious victim. Overmatch as a mechanic is a very painful teacher on how not to play. As a cruiser main I can tell you right now I will not shoot at Satsuma until I see it engaging other ships, and the moment I see its turrets turn towards me I stop shooting and run for cover or run and set up for a throttle juke. Now that may seem unfair to bb's but in all reality people tended to make mistake, tunnel vision a bit to much, and can easily be punished for it. I think you may wish to ponder your own tactics and change what you look for before you shoot. 

[Seraphice]

This is actually kind of the point of why their service cost is so high.

To avoid overpopulating the matchmaking with superships they are relatively hard to obtain and maintain.

They are not designed to earn credits. In fact neither was Tier X. However for many players Tier X has become a very sustainable and in many cases profitable economy.

In general your performance in a supership must be exceptionally high to start earning credits. At a level that very very few amounts of players will be able to do.

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[Migantium_Mashum]

11 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

This is actually kind of the point of why their service cost is so high.

To avoid overpopulating the matchmaking with superships they are relatively hard to obtain and maintain.

They are not designed to earn credits. In fact neither was Tier X. However for many players Tier X has become a very sustainable and in many cases profitable economy.

In general your performance in a supership must be exceptionally high to start earning credits. At a level that very very few amounts of players will be able to do.

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

 

In other words it's a high priced Gimmick with no reward and the point of creation was what because I daresay nobody will play them after they realise how much they cost...

 

My first and only game in one cost me over 330,000 credits and I had a pretty good game...

 

 

2 hours ago, Cyberstorm1981 said:

i grinded the satsuma the full 57 million and i bought the 5000 doubloons perm camo and what i noticed....after few battles had 110k damage because if you hit a few everybody runs like hell from you.

and end results 282k credits earned in victory match ok 282k not bad....service cost 360.000 credits and 80k ammunition ???wtf wg 440k credits i grinded 57 million and a camo of 16eu to get a ship where i even have to pay 165k credits instead earning credits.....sorry thats a little over nooo??sorry but in this case not many players will be intrested in superships  you do the long grind to t10 than the 57million for the supership.......isnt that enough to get a ship that at least can pay the service cost and ammunition resuply ???this is not ment to break down wg but as postive advice of feedback to maybe think over.....what do you guys think over the high cost of supership ? 

My advice, ask WG to remove the Ship from your port and return your credits, cancel the Camo purchase get back your Dubs and forget they exist...

 

They're a gimmick.

[Hades_warrior]

Yes how rude of them. Imagine having camo that reduces your service costs so you wont loose any credits and makes TX MM even more populated with that tier of ships.

This was weegee's attempt to reduce their popularity in the game but it seems like service cost wont stop them.

[Purnylla]

12 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

 

In other words it's a high priced Gimmick with no reward and the point of creation was what because I daresay nobody will play them after they realise how much they cost...

 

They're pretty much a toy for the rich (I know clan member who have hundreds of milions of credits). It's a credit sink, nothing more. And personally, I don't mind. At least that keeps tier X interesting.