[GREEK] Cpt_ZombZan_GR Players 78 posts 19,067 battles Report post #1 Posted June 22, 2022 Is the upcoming economic change good or bad?? Opinions: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROUGH] Yamashiro42 Players 1,065 posts 26,558 battles Report post #2 Posted June 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Cpt_ZombZan_GR said: Is the upcoming economic change good or bad?? Opinions: Good for WG. Good and bad at the same time for the playerbase. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #3 Posted June 22, 2022 Irrelevant to me, so probably good from my POV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #4 Posted June 22, 2022 New and bad players will probably advance faster and have it easier to stay at higher Tiers. Which will make gameplay worse for the rest. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-CP] Nitten79 Players 54 posts 15,457 battles Report post #5 Posted June 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: New and bad players will probably advance faster and have it easier to stay at higher Tiers. Which will make gameplay worse for the rest. How will they advance faster? I dont see any indication that this change will do that, in fact just the opposite as you no longer can stack commen bonuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #6 Posted June 22, 2022 I expect to be worse. always a good expectation when Wargaming changes things 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7 Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Nitten79 said: How will they advance faster? I dont see any indication that this change will do that, in fact just the opposite as you no longer can stack commen bonuses. New and bad players do not have enough boosters to stack a lot of them. And the stuff you will get gives better boosts than stacking some of the basic current ones. Add the once again lower upkeep and you know where it leads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #8 Posted June 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nitten79 said: How will they advance faster? By buying 1600% (!) boosters for $, I guess? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #9 Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Cpt_ZombZan_GR said: Is the upcoming economic change good or bad? Don't we all have a good idea what the one correct answer is ... considering Wedgies previous historical track record? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #10 Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, ColonelPete said: New and bad players do not have enough boosters to stack a lot of them. And the stuff you will get gives better boosts than stacking some of the basic current ones. Add the once again lower upkeep and you know where it leads. Pretty sure I saw a graph made where it showed that good players will make more base credits and bad players will make less than they do now. How common bonuses will be remains to be seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-A-R] _Lupastro_ Players 1,012 posts 13,896 battles Report post #11 Posted June 22, 2022 I haven't yet understood anything, after all I am not a mathematician, an engineer or an expert in statistics 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #12 Posted June 22, 2022 I think people now dont buy flags for exp much so after the rework people will buy boosters more,since boosters will be bigger, not to mention a new thing to sell. but i must say i dont see the reason to ditch camouflage bonuses, its like now we can sail ships without any camo, q bit stupid since camuflages did play a role in ww 2 history, but i guess wg doesnt give a crap about history 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #13 Posted June 22, 2022 Is the Made of Steel camo still going to be available and do the same thing? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #14 Posted June 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Cpt_ZombZan_GR said: Is the upcoming economic change good or bad? My cynicism says 'bad' as WG never changes anything (especially not something involving quite a lot of work, as here) without it making them money, which generally means a down-side for the players somewhere. It just may take a while to become apparent. My delusional optimism (which you would think would have been crushed by WG's actions over the last few years) thinks it may be okay, and possibly even a slight improvement: If WG are being honest, then - on average - earnings (both interms of the various experience points, and silver) are supposed to be the same or better (per @SV_Kompresor above). Apparently, we won't have to use horrible aesthetics to get particular bonuses (hurrah - I can bury Frosty Fir Tree, or whatever it's called, at a crossroads, at midnight, with a stake through its heart). For those of use who occasionally like to buy our favourite ships pretty new dresses, it *should* cost less than previously (I think I read that the aesthetic components will cost less after the initial one). In a similar vein, it should be possible to use cammo on purely aesthetic grounds, as the bonuses part is done separately; so, you might have a cammo you like but don't use because the bonuses are poor - problem solved. Of course (again, as previously mentioned) the critical factor which will heavily inform whether my cynicism or optimism turns out to be right will be availability (and costs!) of the various bonuses... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #15 Posted June 22, 2022 Well.. I like the bit that I won't have to use ugly camos any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #16 Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said: Pretty sure I saw a graph made where it showed that good players will make more base credits and bad players will make less than they do now. How common bonuses will be remains to be seen. If you mean this graph: Quote This graph applies only to Tier X, not any other Tiers. Without perma camo, you make more money every time in the new system. With perma camo you are slightly worse off, when you cannot everage 200k. When you add even more modifiers, you have to average even less to be worse off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #17 Posted June 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Cpt_ZombZan_GR said: Is the upcoming economic change good or bad?? Opinions: Well......it will surely benefit Wedgie more than the players. If it will "help" the game......hmm... that remains to be seen. However removing combat bonuses from the camo's 100% does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #18 Posted June 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, MoveZig said: Is the Made of Steel camo still going to be available and do the same thing? I think it will. Unless they are ready to refund the steel. Most of my T10's are equipped with that. I valued the ec benefits ( i.e to not worry and play the game as I see fit) more than a steel ship 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INCAP] surfer_gr Players 395 posts 62,810 battles Report post #19 Posted June 22, 2022 buhahahaha flags and crap you know why i have over 4 billion credits? cause i dont use any of this flag crap in general will give you an example 349 hits with a khaba one fire ahahahahahha Wg bs lols how many credits will get for these flags? :P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #20 Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, surfer_gr said: buhahahaha flags and crap you know why i have over 4 billion credits? cause i dont use any of this flag crap in general will give you an example 349 hits with a khaba one fire ahahahahahha Wg bs lols how many credits will get for these flags? :P :) Horses for courses. I just resetted the RN Cl line to get some RB pints for da flags..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INCAP] surfer_gr Players 395 posts 62,810 battles Report post #21 Posted June 22, 2022 i did not reset a single line and will never do :) dont need rb points lols Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #22 Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Cpt_ZombZan_GR said: Is the upcoming economic change good or bad?? Opinions: This my friends its all about, now you are FORCED to see how easy can you purchase bonuses, almost you are too stupid not to buy it... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-A-R] _Lupastro_ Players 1,012 posts 13,896 battles Report post #23 Posted June 22, 2022 3 ore fa, ColonelPete ha scritto: This graph applies only to Tier X, not any other Tiers. Without perma camo, you make more money every time in the new system. With perma camo you are slightly worse off, when you cannot everage 200k. When you add even more modifiers, you have to average even less to be worse off. so... if I don't use permacamo I.. gain more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #24 Posted June 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said: This my friends its all about, now you are FORCED to see how easy can you purchase bonuses, almost you are too stupid not to buy it... Noice..... PTS? . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #25 Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, _Lupastro_ said: so... if I don't use permacamo I.. gain more? You gain more than now, every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
