CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #1 Posted June 20, 2022 i am out of ideas ... i have only musashi and Jean in T 9 , because i couldnt sell them , however ... paolo has 100% win rate against me ... any ideas how to deal with this ship ? it is really not fun to play against it without hydro ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] MannequinSkywalker Players 539 posts 8,558 battles Report post #2 Posted June 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, BlueMerry said: i am out of ideas ... i have only musashi and Jean in T 9 , because i couldnt sell them , however ... paolo has 100% win rate against me ... any ideas how to deal with this ship ? it is really not fun to play against it without hydro ... Hi, if you only have Musashi and JB, your only concern shouldn't be P.Emilio imo :) There are other ships that can take advantage of their tools and sink you such as, Pommern, Rupprecht, other DDs. About P. Emilio, You can bait him to come at you by going towards him, but when you're sure he's coming at you just maneuver out and start sailing away. You can take a torp or two but doesn't matter because you're in a BB. Meanwhile if you're in JB just kill him with reload booster. If you're in Musashi, there isn't much you can do to stop his yolo, so you'll have to enter caps and take his yolo because if you don't he'll win by points. You need to survive his torps and meanwhile HE shotgun him :) But again, if you had the tech tree Rupprecht, it'd be easier for you to deal with it or if you have other gunboat DDs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PTS] _Keiban_ Players 224 posts 27,458 battles Report post #3 Posted June 20, 2022 Vor 15 Minuten, BlueMerry sagte: i have only musashi and Jean in T 9 , because i couldnt sell them , however ... paolo has 100% win rate against me ... any ideas how to deal with this ship ? it is really not fun to play against it without hydro ... Why not take the Rupprecht that you have? Or Roon could be decent too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #4 Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, MannequinSkywalker said: Hi, if you only have Musashi and JB, your only concern shouldn't be P.Emilio imo :) There are other ships that can take advantage of their tools and sink you such as, Pommern, Rupprecht, other DDs. About P. Emilio, You can bait him to come at you by going towards him, but when you're sure he's coming at you just maneuver out and start sailing away. You can take a torp or two but doesn't matter because you're in a BB. Meanwhile if you're in JB just kill him with reload booster. If you're in Musashi, there isn't much you can do to stop his yolo, so you'll have to enter caps and take his yolo because if you don't he'll win by points. You need to survive his torps and meanwhile HE shotgun him :) But again, if you had the tech tree Rupprecht, it'd be easier for you to deal with it or if you have other gunboat DDs. actually i play only JB in brawls , rupperecth is fine , only 8 shells is enough to delete this ship ... pommern ? hmmm it has sturdy armor and most times i got torped from right and left , but i won most the battles against pommern .... dds ? almost all of them i won the battle ... only paolo that i cant kill it ... first salvo when you see him .. so he smoke , and he can see you because you fired ... if you dont fire ? he has RPF ... this ship has a lot of very strong torps ... cant win .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #5 Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, _Keiban_ said: Why not take the Rupprecht that you have? Or Roon could be decent too. like i said , i only have 2 premmuim ships that i couldnt sell them xD ... i need to pay almost all my silver to re buy T 9 ship with modules ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AWSL] ReDiR20 Players 473 posts 4,980 battles Report post #6 Posted June 20, 2022 Paolo Emilio could be great in 2x2 brawls, but currently its quite bad since there is none to spot for him Why not buy a Agir for 1 mln free xp? Best T9 cruiser in game. Also works well in brawls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #7 Posted June 20, 2022 Just now, ReDiR20 said: Paolo Emilio could be great in 2x2 brawls, but currently its quite bad since there is none to spot for him Why not buy a Agir for 1 mln free xp? Best T9 cruiser in game. Also works well in brawls spot what for him exactly xD ... he has RPF and he smoke and once in 2.0 km range you are dead . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #8 Posted June 20, 2022 btw i have a nice plan to deal with some ships like pommern ... first go cap fast ... second ram ... you win with points xD 1 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PTS] _Keiban_ Players 224 posts 27,458 battles Report post #9 Posted June 20, 2022 Vor 8 Minuten, BlueMerry sagte: like i said , i only have 2 premmuim ships that i couldnt sell them xD ... i need to pay almost all my silver to re buy T 9 ship with modules ... Oh, you sold every T9 Techtree ship that you had? Is that what you are trying to say? Well, then there's not really much you can do. There will always be ships that are generally better for 1v1 and ships that counter some other ones exceptionally well. The lesson to learn from this is to not sell your Techtree ships ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #10 Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, _Keiban_ said: Oh, you sold every T9 Techtree ship that you had? Is that what you are trying to say? Well, then there's not really much you can do. There will always be ships that are generally better for 1v1 and ships that counter some other ones exceptionally well. The lesson to learn from this is to not sell your Techtree ships ^^ when a new line comes , i like to grind it and try the ships ... and thats costs much of silver and research bureau costs much silver and coal auction either ... i play only T 10 ... anyway . i am not talking about which ship is better than which ... i am talking about possibility to win a battle ... i have no problems playing with all T 9 ships ... but paolo is another story ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #11 Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BlueMerry said: i am out of ideas ... i have only musashi and Jean in T 9 , because i couldnt sell them What has to be wrong with a person to sell Musashi or JB? For real?! You have 2 options : Ruprecht (for credits which is ok but then you need a commander on it) or Pommern for coal and you can swap any commander cause it's a premium. I don't have a bigger issue with Paolo. Mogador can be a problem as well. That's why you need a hydro BB to be able to push into the caps and deny an ambush. Also what you said about Pommern? Ramming? A BB with torps? What am I reading even.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #12 Posted June 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, BlueMerry said: spot what for him exactly xD ... When Paolo uses its fuel smoke it becomes blind, no one is spotting so you can end up in bizzare situation. Like the guy was too close to me in my Pommern not realising it got torped himself by me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #13 Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: What has to be wrong with a person to sell Musashi or JB? For real?! You have 2 options : Ruprecht (for credits which is ok but then you need a commander on it) or Pommern for coal and you can swap any commander cause it's a premium. I don't have a bigger issue with Paolo. Mogador can be a problem as well. That's why you need a hydro BB to be able to push into the caps and deny an ambush. Also what you said about Pommern? Ramming? A BB with torps? What am I reading even.... because i stopped playing bbs , i dont like the game system and how dds can hide all the battle and torp you , so i am playing mostly cruisers and some dds like marcue and manly things ... and yes , i rammed many pommerns ... and i got 60 k in 1 salvo from a pommern , dont ask how ... and mogaddor , i find this ship hopeless against JB , i think all my battles against mogador i won them , maybe i lose 1 and he won with lower than 1 k hp ... bad concealment vs JB reload booster ... 1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said: When Paolo uses its fuel smoke it becomes blind, no one is spotting so you can end up in bizzare situation. Like the guy was too close to me in my Pommern not realising it got torped himself by me did you forgot rpf ? :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #14 Posted June 20, 2022 16 hours ago, BlueMerry said: because i stopped playing bbs , i dont like the game system and how dds can hide all the battle and torp you , so i am playing mostly cruisers and some dds like marcue and manly things ... and yes , i rammed many pommerns ... and i got 60 k in 1 salvo from a pommern , dont ask how ... and mogaddor , i find this ship hopeless against JB , i think all my battles against mogador i won them , maybe i lose 1 and he won with lower than 1 k hp ... bad concealment vs JB reload booster ... did you forgot rpf ? :D Who brings JB into brawls anyway? It's good for Pommern secondaries and then torps. Not to mention the Ruprecht. And who puts rpf on Paolo? It's useless on randoms, so you did respecc your commander only for brawls? What? Also rpf will show you where is the enemy but how close? If it's too close and you don't expect it at all then you'll have like a 1 second distraction. That 1 sec his torps are in the water getting you. Rpf doesn't help PE a lot. You say you got smashed for 60k from a Pommern in what? JB? You must have been full broadside and turning very close. Otherwise he can't do it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #15 Posted June 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Who brings JB into brawls anyway? It's good for Pommern secondaries and then torps. Not to mention the Ruprecht. And who puts rpf on Paolo? It's useless on randoms, so you did respecc your commander only for brawls? What? here is a gift screen shot for you : i could kill him with guns , but wanted to ram :D i started playing brawls today ... and i played with JB only ... i won 36 battles till now ... or maybe its 31 ... i just won a battle against paolo , cant beleive it xD ... look at the map :) it took 3 salvos , its so hard to shoot 3 salvos at 2 km range ... cause no time to move turrets neither for reload ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #16 Posted June 20, 2022 Brawls and your playing on the map border? If this "manly"? JB doesn't have much features to be a brawler. 32mm everywhere, no torps or hard hitting guns, the turrets are knocked out easier than Pommern torp tubes. And the secondaries are a joke. And you winning so many battles on it just means in what state the playerbase is right now .... Very bad state indeed. Any decent Pommern or Ruprecht can deal with you in JB. And that Paolo was stupid, he should just run away if you were on map border and could win by points. Just wow how some people can be stupid.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #17 Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Brawls and your playing on the map border? If this "manly"? JB doesn't have much features to be a brawler. 32mm everywhere, no torps or hard hitting guns, the turrets are knocked out easier than Pommern torp tubes. And the secondaries are a joke. And you winning so many battles on it just means in what state the playerbase is right now .... Very bad state indeed. Any decent Pommern or Ruprecht can deal with you in JB. And that Paolo was stupid, he should just run away if you were on map border and could win by points. Just wow how some people can be stupid.... you are saying stupid too much , did you got it from scotty ? :D i had DC at the battle start , when i came back again i saw his smoke near me , so i reversed ... he thought i was afk ... and yes , i tried this before , staying at map border trying to dodge his torps with border strange move , but didn't work ... if you have a manly way to play against low play like paolo then tell me please , thats why this thread started ... and if you dont know it then i will tell you , rupperecht has nice torps , but usually i kill him before his torps reachs me ... just wait until the very last moment when he launch his bloody torps and showing broadside at close range . one salvo and win ... anyway , i dont know why you are taking this so hard , while everybody having fun who cares about player base state or whatever ... while i do not care about it at all , but let me tell you something good for you ... there is a lot of things that you dont like in this life , and you never can solve them neither do anything to them , so try to ignore it and pretend like it is nothing , because getting headachs will not help , and nothing will be changed , at least take it easy without any hard feelings . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #18 Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) wrong thread comment . Edited June 21, 2022 by BlueMerry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #19 Posted June 21, 2022 *Plays ships with the highest survivability* "Manly" (whatever that means) Pick one But yeah, if those are the only ships you have, you're out of luck. Some ships are better in 1v1, others are better in randoms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #20 Posted June 21, 2022 13 hours ago, BlueMerry said: i am out of ideas ... i have only musashi and Jean in T 9 , because i couldnt sell them , however ... paolo has 100% win rate against me ... any ideas how to deal with this ship ? it is really not fun to play against it without hydro ... Currently sitting on 8 wins, 1 lose with the Ruprecht (knowing it is very strong in 1 v 1. Only lose was against a Unicum Mogador that JUST killed me (he had 134 hp left). The other Mogador i came across (TTT) didn't fair so well and tired to hug an island that wasn't big enough to play ring around the roses. The hydro keeps him nicely spotted. Counter? Anything with radar/hyrdo. Only meet one last night and he died horribly trying to rush me. However, If you only have the musashi and Jean then its going to be hard. The Jean is better facing DDs and and the Musashi is better against BB's, either is good against crusiers. Vs DD's You have to stay mobile and avoid hills where he can pop out and torp rush you. Distance is your friend. It turns into a game of chess BB vs DD but if the DD is good and gets the caps early (which they should) he can hide and hold long enough. But all that depends on the MAP, the more islands for them to hide, the harder it will be for BB's. 1 vs 1 Brawling BB's are the gold star in these games (with Hydro) modes due to basically having an extra cruiser strapped to your hull that spits out shells. Any BB without torps are just handicapping yourself as you can just bump rush them and if they turn as they know what's coming, you have a nice broadside to smash. Jean's wont stand a chance against something like a Pommon or Ruprecht. You lack torps, lack pen, have backwards secondaries and your deck is going to get smashed by secondary fire with IFHE. The Musashi will fair better as it has a better deck armour and heavier pen guns, but you gonna get rushed and will be lucky to kill them in time before they rush you. Again, distance will be your friend. But like all kiting tactics, you will sacrifice the cap points to do it. It's not easy mate in those ships. The only tier 9 I fear is the Mogador which i knew i would. It's ubber fast, spaced armour and can rush you if you don't keep the distance enough, but as it's concealment isn't great when he does make a torp rush move, so you can deal with it. The Pom can be a problem, but in a Secondary fight the Ruprecht will win (especially with the premium commander) and the Pommon lacks the pen when you angle. You also see him first so you get the opening salvo off on your terms. But like anything, the captain player skills and knowledge of where to hit makes a massive difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #21 Posted June 21, 2022 Met my first Emilio today, in the Rupprecht. Of course, he almost won on points before I could even approach the cap from an angle that wouldn't make me a sitting duck. He charged at me anyway, so I kited, took 2/8 torps and started chewing into his hp..but a lot of the secondaries missed completely, even at 3-4 km. It's not the dispersion: they just aim wrong. Anyway, his torps on the other side were broken, so I was safe and won it. But again, the secondaries are bugged against DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #22 Posted June 21, 2022 Oh, just bumped into another one. And another one dead. Salvo of HE and shedding secondaries minced him. They always try and rush, hydro counters that nicely. And i'm playing nothing but unicums now which is refreshing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #23 Posted June 21, 2022 11 hours ago, BlueMerry said: What the hell was that DD doing?? That was completely down to the DD captain being very very bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #24 Posted June 21, 2022 Hi all, 12 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: What has to be wrong with a person to sell Musashi or JB? For real?! You have 2 options : Ruprecht (for credits which is ok but then you need a commander on it) or Pommern for coal and you can swap any commander cause it's a premium. I don't have a bigger issue with Paolo. Mogador can be a problem as well. That's why you need a hydro BB to be able to push into the caps and deny an ambush. Also what you said about Pommern? Ramming? A BB with torps? What am I reading even.... 12 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: When Paolo uses its fuel smoke it becomes blind, no one is spotting so you can end up in bizzare situation. Like the guy was too close to me in my Pommern not realising it got torped himself by me I play Pommern exclusively in "Brawl" 1vs. 1 I think I won more games against DDs than lost - the most formidable opponent is Mogador that can rush you and has torps on both sides - the Yolo Emilio I don't see as such threat. With my salvo I usually only hurt DD - then the secondaries work - but I kill them with my torps at very close range... Leo "Apollo11" P.S. The Brawl is not random MM - you are paired with similar skill opponents (all Brawl seasons count)! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,881 battles Report post #25 Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, tocqueville8 said: Met my first Emilio today, in the Rupprecht. Of course, he almost won on points before I could even approach the cap from an angle that wouldn't make me a sitting duck. He charged at me anyway, so I kited, took 2/8 torps and started chewing into his hp..but a lot of the secondaries missed completely, even at 3-4 km. It's not the dispersion: they just aim wrong. Anyway, his torps on the other side were broken, so I was safe and won it. But again, the secondaries are bugged against DDs. because you are using high accuracy secondary's right ? the secondary's only shoot at the middle of armor plating , which i think it cannot penetrate ... another bbs has worse dispersion , so it can often hit super structure and do damage .. try it in training room and you will know it :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
