New players in high tier premiums

[JohnMac79]

19 games TOTAL.

 

Most played ship is.... *drum roll* .... a Pommern

 

Has a higher average damage in a T3 BB.

 

10/10.

 

 

 

[coldocean]

Mmh. Days ago you guys made a thread about how to spent the expiring coupons. I made a joke about using the coupon, just because it expires soon. Not everybody liked that. 

Coupons!!! - General Discussion - World of Warships official forum

So congratulations: that thread convinced another user to buy a premium.  The more dubs it costs, the more dubs were "saved", so it was a T9 ofc.  And now the user got the $"% damn right to play the ship he bought. 

[JohnMac79]

3 minutes ago, coldocean said:

Mmh. Days ago you guys made a thread about how to spent the expiring coupons. I made a joke about using the coupon, just because it expires soon. Not everybody liked that. 

Coupons!!! - General Discussion - World of Warships official forum

So congratulations: that thread convinced another user to buy a premium.  The more dubs it costs, the more dubs were "saved", so it was a T9 ofc.  And now the user got the $"% damn right to play the ship he bought. 

 

What are you even on about?

[coldocean]

Vor 10 Minuten, JohnMac79 sagte:

 

What are you even on about?

Why do you check, which ships another random player plays in wows, make screenshots of his profile, anonymize them, put them online and make a thread about it? A random account, which we know nothing about, got a premium ship for whatever reason. Fine. 

[Wulf_Ace]

29 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said:

19 games TOTAL.

 

Most played ship is.... *drum roll* .... a Pommern

 

Has a higher average damage in a T3 BB.

 

10/10.

 

 

 

dont see problem here, WG made money on this guy, so a big plus to the sales department.

wuhu.

[JohnMac79]

1 minute ago, coldocean said:

Why do you check, which ships another random player plays in wows, make screenshots of his profile, anonymize them, put them online and make a thread about it? A random account, which we know nothing about, got a premium ship for whatever reason. Fine. 

 

Because he died in the first 4 minutes, and he quite clearly has absolutely no idea how to play the game.

 

There are many other people in a game. Thats why.

 

People like this are why the game is so crappy these days. If you dont get that i wont waste any more time trying to explain it.

[coldocean]

Vor 8 Minuten, JohnMac79 sagte:

 

Because he died in the first 4 minutes, and he quite clearly has absolutely no idea how to play the game.

 

There are many other people in a game. Thats why.

 

People like this are why the game is so crappy these days. If you dont get that i wont waste any more time trying to explain it.

And that was not said 1000times before and really worth investing your time here? You want applause now, because you found a fresh account with a T9 premium on it? Serious question, because I don't get what kind of reaction you expected. 

In Random you can stumble about anyone: people watching TV, eating, being drunk, bad captain, stock ship, no camo, being a bad player, etc. etc. If you didn't know that, now you know. Your only chance is going to a clan and playing just the modes, where you got no random teammates. I guess we already knowed that also. But they, I didn't intend to disturb your artifcial outrage-show. Go on with that, please. 

[JohnMac79]

50 minutes ago, coldocean said:

And that was not said 1000times before and really worth investing your time here?

 

Yet you are investing your time reading it and replying.

 

 

[Spellfire40]

1 hour ago, JohnMac79 said:

 

Because he died in the first 4 minutes, and he quite clearly has absolutely no idea how to play the game.

 

There are many other people in a game. Thats why.

 

People like this are why the game is so crappy these days. If you dont get that i wont waste any more time trying to explain it.

And what does that has to do with playing 19 games? Seen plenty of players with 4k plus dieing in the 1st few minutes . Better trying than not touching the W butom till all your sides DDs got killed off .

 

 

[ThePurpleSmurf]

At least he has the excuse of being new to the game. I've seen so many players with 10k+ games and way worse stats - they are the real problem at high tier, because the newbie can learn and improve but these veterans with 40% are hopeless griefer. But the game became so trash in every regard (cvs, subs, op superships, and so on), that these new whales don't matter.

[Sunleader]

2 hours ago, JohnMac79 said:

19 games TOTAL.

 

Most played ship is.... *drum roll* .... a Pommern

 

Has a higher average damage in a T3 BB.

 

10/10.

 

 

 

 

And the Differenz to any of the Players, which got 10k Battles and Worse Stats than him, is ??

Are you gonna Check on any Horrible Player to see if he Bought his Way into Hightier instead of Dying his Way up ?

 

 

In case you didnt Realize this.

The vast Majority of Players in this Game is Casuals that never Visit the Forum. Never check any Guide or YouTube Video. Never even consider that there could be any Deeper reason as to why they get Killed so easily. And dont really even try to become a Good Player in General.

They come home from Work in the evening. They Start the Game. And all they want from it. Is to Point their Guns at Ships and Open Fire for some Flashy Brawling. The closer the better of course.

And if they Die. They take the next Ship.

 

If Coop would Pay Properly instead of basicly getting 10% of the Rewards. Many of them would never even bother Joining Randoms.

 

 

So Yeah. Certainly this 1 out of 1000 Bad Players being a New Player who Bought a High Tier Premium Ship. Is the reason this Game is Bad ;)

Not to Offend ya. But I somehow doubt that this is the Big Problem here.

 

 

 

If you want something that actually would help with this Situation.

Then Pester WG to Introduce a Casual and a Competetive Mode into Randoms.

Casual having more Teamshared Rewards. With no Statistics being Recorded and with Win or Loss not making much of a Differenz.

So that Casuals can go there to Play Shooty Shooty Ships without thinking about anything.

 

While Competetive Mode would have more Individual Rewards. With Statistics being Recorded. And with Winning the Match actually giving the Big Modifier to your Rewards so that Winning is Importand.

So that Competetive Players can Play Seriously there without constantly having Potatoes in their Team that just Drive forward to shoot the First thing they See and get themselves Killed ;)

 

 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

It would be worse if he played hundreds+ of battles that way.

Yes, having such players on the team can be annoying, but with so few battles they have barely any impact on the general level of play.

[NewHorizons_1]

If you want giggles, then I don't think you can get worse than these co-op stats.

One of several accounts that are suspecting of botting in German BBs

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

ahhh lol. German premium bb.

 

Ride the map border, life good.

 

[LABRAT_1UK]

So what's the point of this post, stat shaming or new players cant have big boats ? If WG hid all stats it would stop all this toxic behaviour and then those who like to brag how good they are they could make theirs public  

[SeaWolf7]

 

 

One of the Main reasons the game has gone to crap at higher tiers in recent years is exactly this problem of people with no experience having access too and playing a ship and a tier that should require hundreds if not thousands of games to reach.

Not having the experience or know how and playing at a level that DOES require experience and know how, impacts the game in a negative way for others.

 

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

 

, but with so few battles they have barely any impact on the general level of play.

 

Thats exactly the problem. With that ship and at that tier you should be having  a greater impact not the other way round. It defeats the purpose of having Tiering in the first place.

 

7 hours ago, Sunleader said:

 

So Yeah. Certainly this 1 out of 1000 Bad Players being a New Player who Bought a High Tier Premium Ship. Is the reason this Game is Bad ;)

No . But times that one by a thousand and we have what we have......

 

But its a business first so Money/profit is the goal. 

No business.... no game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

10 minutes ago, SeaWolf7 said:

Thats exactly the problem. With that ship and at that tier you should be having  a greater impact not the other way round. It defeats the purpose of having Tiering in the first place.

Sorry, that is not what I meant.

A player with 20 Tier IX battles is not responsible for the low skill level of the whole playerbase on high Tier. It is people with hundreds+ of battles on that Tier with similar results, that are responsible.

A player like him might still recognize that he needs to learn more on lower Tiers to come back to high Tiers later.

[Corpsetaker]

1 hour ago, LABRAT_1UK said:

So what's the point of this post, stat shaming or new players cant have big boats ? If WG hid all stats it would stop all this toxic behaviour and then those who like to brag how good they are they could make theirs public  

Hello,

 

I can't speak for others only myself but it's more than just the stats. If I am spending money on camos, flags, and other resources I don't want to get stuck in multiple games with players like this who cause us to lose. Those resources I got were wasted and I wasn't able to gain the higher amount of XP, Free XP and Credits I could have gotten. Not to mention the fact that if you get rightly angry with them they can get you chat banned while they continue doing what they do.

[invicta2012]

8 hours ago, Sunleader said:

If Coop would Pay Properly instead of basicly getting 10% of the Rewards. Many of them would never even bother Joining Randoms.

Under the new economy Co-op pays better, it should be sustainable to play regularly in Tier IX and X ships. Which might make a difference.

[dommo77]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

Sorry, that is not what I meant.

A player with 20 Tier IX battles is not responsible for the low skill level of the whole playerbase on high Tier. It is people with hundreds+ of battles on that Tier with similar results, that are responsible.

A player like him might still recognize that he needs to learn more on lower Tiers to come back to high Tiers later.

This is my view as well. Yes it is sad to see guys like this one in tier X battle in Saipan of all things:

 

but it is more annoying / disturbing / 'pick a word' to see guys with 10-20k battles and 43% WR, and it's not that uncommon sadly...

 

 

[coldocean]

Vor 10 Stunden, JohnMac79 sagte:

 

Yet you are investing your time reading it and replying.

 

 

I am just a polite person. Also I am not checking every random player in a random round, who played $"§&%, looking for a chance to point on someone. I had still less effort than you had with being angry, thinking about that, searching, checking, making screenshot, editing the screenshot, uploading it and then starting this thread. I don't even want to know, how many people you checked before to find such a case. Obvisouly you didn't get the great applause you expected here. But to make you happy: yeah, we know, that you with 17k battles played for sure better in the said game, than a newbie with just 19 battles. Applause. I hope that makes your day.

 

Vor 38 Minuten, Corpsetaker sagte:

Hello,

 

I can't speak for others only myself but it's more than just the stats. If I am spending money on camos, flags, and other resources I don't want to get stuck in multiple games with players like this who cause us to lose. Those resources I got were wasted and I wasn't able to gain the higher amount of XP, Free XP and Credits I could have gotten. Not to mention the fact that if you get rightly angry with them they can get you chat banned while they continue doing what they do.

Do you really assume, that on the opponent side are "better" players?? 

 

Vor 4 Minuten, dommo77 sagte:

....

 

but it is more annoying / disturbing / 'pick a word' to see guys with 10-20k battles and 43% WR, and it's not that uncommon sadly...

 

If there would not be so many players with <50%, you had less players with >50%. 

[Spellfire40]

4 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said:

One of the Main reasons the game has gone to crap at higher tiers in recent years is exactly this problem of people with no experience having access too and playing a ship and a tier that should require hundreds if not thousands of games to reach.

Not having the experience or know how and playing at a level that DOES require experience and know how, impacts the game in a negative way for others.

 

 

Thats exactly the problem. With that ship and at that tier you should be having  a greater impact not the other way round. It defeats the purpose of having Tiering in the first place.

 

So Its impact you want? next you rage about players who bring ships that dont fit the curent meta? every player that got dumped on by a eagle and ended with coopexp in a t9 plus game thanks to that? A capping DD that eats a unlucky prediced Torp at the start of the game in a cap? Or players who want to compleate missions? im sure lost 6 to 9 karma when i brought a kleber to farm potential damage taken and by blasting from range instead of dieing in caps that had suported stealthy DDs. Cant wait till i get Elbing 

 

No . But times that one by a thousand and we have what we have......

 

But its a business first so Money/profit is the goal. 

No business.... no game.

 

[KratosTheUnforgiving]

6 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

If you want giggles, then I don't think you can get worse than these co-op stats.

One of several accounts that are suspecting of botting in German BBs

BOT accounts don't exist, I have this confirmed by support as their tools and the coding spot them all and remove them from the game. I get told off for reporting them, so no longer bother. WG must be getting some nice sales from them and don't care !

[Takethatyoubeast]

16 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said:

dont see problem here, WG made money on this guy, so a big plus to the sales department.

wuhu.

Can’t really blame someone for buying a Tier 9 ship when they are entitled to do so. Blame WG for allowing them to do it the first place but you’d be wasting your time as they don’t care 

[Takethatyoubeast]

4 hours ago, coldocean said:

If I am spending money on camos, flags, and other resources I don't want to get stuck in multiple games with players like this who cause us to lose.

Honestly, save your money 

 

Been down that road and it isn’t worth it