Help me decide :).

[Andrewbassg]

So .....as a result of partly Wedgie's generosity, some luck and me playing ranked, I accrued 9800 dbls. Initially I wanted to get the Weimar, because I have her on NA and Narai and when I got her Ranked started at T6, so I got a fair amount of fun out her.

 

However, seeing the nice amount of dbls, I remembered that I don't have T8 premiums  apart from Anchorage, which is......yeah and Kaga B which is a Cv so.... again nope.

 

Keeping in mind that Cherry Blossom is supposed to return  ( you hear me Wedgie?!!)  and looking at the offers in armory I narrowed it down to Wichita, Bayard, Bagration, and possibly Belfast '43  (I'm not that keen on her). Strong contenders are Atago and Mainz however they can't participate in said operation.

Now... I don't want a one trick pony like Weimar is and I would like to actually use the ship for...... possibly ranked. Randoms are pretty much excluded given the current state of affairs.

 

So what you say? Getting Weimar is still a possibility.

[Verblonde]

4 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

So what you say?

Depends a bit on whether Cherry Blossom really returns, or if it's a casualty of, well, WG being WG. Assuming it does return, there might be something to be said for Bagration in that she's versatile - you'll probably get more use from her torps in Ops than against real people (true for Bayard as well, and Belfast), plus she gets a heal.

 

I can't cruiser to save my life though, so I tend to err more towards idiot-resistant ships, especially those with a heal. I get the impression that Bayard rather rewards the more skillful (which, alas, I'm not), so if you're good, she might be a worthwhile option.

 

 

[VenividiviciNL]

26 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

So .....as a result of partly Wedgie's generosity, some luck and me playing ranked, I accrued 9800 dbls. Initially I wanted to get the Weimar, because I have her on NA and Narai and when I got her Ranked started at T6, so I got a fair amount of fun out her.

 

However, seeing the nice amount of dbls, I remembered that I don't have T8 premiums  apart from Anchorage, which is......yeah and Kaga B which is a Cv so.... again nope.

 

Keeping in mind that Cherry Blossom is supposed to return  ( you hear me Wedgie?!!)  and looking at the offers in armory I narrowed it down to Wichita, Bayard, Bagration, and possibly Belfast '43  (I'm not that keen on her). Strong contenders are Atago and Mainz however they can't participate in said operation.

Now... I don't want a one trick pony like Weimar is and I would like to actually use the ship for...... possibly ranked. Randoms are pretty much excluded given the current state of affairs.

 

So what you say? Getting Weimar is still a possibility.

I do like the Bagration too like @Verblonde as AP, HE, 8 km torps (pretty good torp angles) are offensive worthwile and heal and hydro can save your day. Ofc do not give too much broadside as she is not that forgiving.

 

Enjoy your choice (which everone you make).

 

[Siagor]

P.Bag is my ship of choice for Ranked. It is a tank head-on, with nasty torp angles sharp left and right. Very pleasant guns, high velocity with flat trajectory. AP sniper, decent HE.

(21er also helps)

[Stockensprotz]

I can recommend the Mainz. Sure, you will not be able to use her in that operation but she is (at least for me) one of the ships that is just fun (and more importantly) even fun when the team or match is bad. Just get her out and shoot stuff. There are ships that have more daka but the guns of the Mainz have good handling, good shell arcs, good pen. I am not sure that an american premium is needed for that op since with the Cleveland one already has one of the (if not the) best cruisers at that tier. And she even should have a premium camo for most people (American Cruisers collection).

 

If you dont take the Mainz also look if there is one nation that might still need a captain trainer. And i would almost wait with a purchase until they announce how the OP will return. Maybe they will allow PanAsian or Dutch Cruisers. Stuff that was not around when the original OP was active.

 

[FlyingBender]

Bayard is a nice and fun ship.

[Shirakami_Kon]

I'm just gonna say I'm a strong believer in Mainz supremacy.

 

Edit: Since you mentioned liking Weimar imagine her on steroids.

[Estaca_de_Bares]

If your intent is to be able to (mainly) use it in Cherry Blossom, the British and American (Anchorage included, which may not shine in the early stages but her smoke be helpful in the daylight part) premiums would be at best in a slightly worse position than their silver counterparts (the first time I did the grind up the USN CL line after introduction, Cleveland basically lived in that operation) stats-wise. For a more generalistic and fun approach, from what I've seen others do, Bayard and Mainz seem the better picks, although they don't appear to really be my cup of tea.

 

Salute.

[Ocsimano18]

I have both Atago and Mainz, and played a test match with Bayard. Bayard is very squshy and hard to play, even for an experienced player. Atago is the perfect Japanese kiting cruiser. One of the best ships I have. Mainz performed under my expectations. She’s too clumsy to kite like Atago, you should camp more behind islands, which is not my style. The guns are excellent though, but the firing angles are terrible if you want to use them all.

I don’t have them, but Wichita, Bagration and Belfast43 are subpar ships compared to the 3 above. I have Weimar from a prime loot container. She’s really nice and can wipe out Narai. As you said, she is very fun in T7 ranked, less so  in randoms, as she gets uptiered much with a short range. Also you feel guilty in Narai for taking the score from the team.

To summarize, I’d recommend Atago wholeheartly.

[The_Chiv]

7 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

So .....as a result of partly Wedgie's generosity, some luck and me playing ranked, I accrued 9800 dbls. Initially I wanted to get the Weimar, because I have her on NA and Narai and when I got her Ranked started at T6, so I got a fair amount of fun out her.

 

However, seeing the nice amount of dbls, I remembered that I don't have T8 premiums  apart from Anchorage, which is......yeah and Kaga B which is a Cv so.... again nope.

 

Keeping in mind that Cherry Blossom is supposed to return  ( you hear me Wedgie?!!)  and looking at the offers in armory I narrowed it down to Wichita, Bayard, Bagration, and possibly Belfast '43  (I'm not that keen on her). Strong contenders are Atago and Mainz however they can't participate in said operation.

Now... I don't want a one trick pony like Weimar is and I would like to actually use the ship for...... possibly ranked. Randoms are pretty much excluded given the current state of affairs.

 

So what you say? Getting Weimar is still a possibility.

Atago can be one of the best cruisers at t8. Her 10 guns pack a hell of HE punch with a possible 21% fire chance. It is not uncommon to get 2 fires in a single salvo. Atagos dispersion is also pretty tight making her extremely accurate.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

I've always loved Atago. Start with her.

[ghostbuster_]

Do not waste your doubs. I mean atago is really good but in the current state of the game, im not sure if you want to play atago. 

[quickr]

Weimar is gud So is Munchen and Mainz ... Got all 3 and love to play all 3

Bayard is also fun

[Jvd2000]

Since you are aiming for scenario duty be aware that next to reintroducing old scenarios’s WG is thinking about relaxing tier requirements. So that fe Narai is no longer exclusively T7 but  ships in the T6-T8 bracket are usable. 
 

So for cherry blossom where allied cruisers are required you can also utilize a Bloise / Atlanta/ Flint . How WG will “ balance” everything is yet unknown ( and I have doubts regarding their stellar track record) .

 

 

But I am looking forward to use my enterprise in the T6 harbor assault scenario with all those lovely German BB citadels.. And instead of Weimar using Mainz in Narai…

[KillStealBoss]

Imho Iran is great one, too bad you forgot about her. She has decent guns and a lot of torpedo power as a cruiser (same torps as Jinan and YueYang as a T8)

[22cm]

20 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

Keeping in mind that Cherry Blossom is supposed to return  ( you hear me Wedgie?!!) 

 

 

Lol.

 

So you are going to believe what WG said and spend dubloons on that?

 

You must be new arround here.

 

[BrusilovX]

19 minutes ago, 22cm said:

So you are going to believe what WG said and spend dubloons on that?

When has WG lied to us?  LOL

 

Alzheimer's helps with that :)

[stefanorgano]

Cherry Blossom is not coming back, not now that WG are committing all of their resources into fitting a submarine peg into a warship hole (cit. Jingles).

 

That being said, get Atago. She is simply too good not to have her imo, in randoms she can deal with higher tier BS like no other T8 cruiser can, she can carry ranked even without radar and when top tier you are basically sadistic mistress dominating everyone.

At least that's how she feels to me.

[Karkong_the_Impaler]

3 hours ago, stefanorgano said:

fitting a submarine peg into a warship hole

AAARGH! MY INNER EYE! IT BLEEDS!

[Andrewbassg]

Thank you all for your responses. Having multiple opinions is always welcomed. To those who recommended Atago I like the playstyle , but like I said It won't be usable in that operation. Same for Mainz.

I know that there are tech tree options available, (and I have them ) which tend to be good and while I also tend to have permacamos for them, a premium  ship has the added advantage of moving caps freely.

Which given the upcoming ex rework certainly will be an asset.

[ghostbuster_]

On 6/17/2022 at 10:43 PM, Andrewbassg said:

Keeping in mind that Cherry Blossom is supposed to return  ( you hear me Wedgie?!!) 

yeah yeah WG hears you. 

btw. do you want to buy some doubloons which you can use to gamble in order to get the change to gamble and at the end, if you are lucky, get crap rewards? 

 

do you see how carefully WG has been listening to you? 

[Andrewbassg]

10 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said:

do you want to buy....

Erm.........a LOT has to change for that. 

[SodaBubbles]

On 6/18/2022 at 4:43 AM, Andrewbassg said:

So .....as a result of partly Wedgie's generosity, some luck and me playing ranked, I accrued 9800 dbls. Initially I wanted to get the Weimar, because I have her on NA and Narai and when I got her Ranked started at T6, so I got a fair amount of fun out her.

 

However, seeing the nice amount of dbls, I remembered that I don't have T8 premiums  apart from Anchorage, which is......yeah and Kaga B which is a Cv so.... again nope.

 

Keeping in mind that Cherry Blossom is supposed to return  ( you hear me Wedgie?!!)  and looking at the offers in armory I narrowed it down to Wichita, Bayard, Bagration, and possibly Belfast '43  (I'm not that keen on her). Strong contenders are Atago and Mainz however they can't participate in said operation.

Now... I don't want a one trick pony like Weimar is and I would like to actually use the ship for...... possibly ranked. Randoms are pretty much excluded given the current state of affairs.

 

So what you say? Getting Weimar is still a possibility.

 

I wouldn't think of using Wichita, Bayard, Bagration, or Belfast 43 in Ranked because T8 cruisers are at such a disadvantage there. Easy prey at the ranges Ranked is played at. I can't speak to Congress, but it might have better punch and armor. Otherwise why not Massachusetts or Roma or Alabama, all good in Ranked. 

[Andrewbassg]

4 hours ago, SodaBubbles said:

 

I wouldn't think of using Wichita, Bayard, Bagration, or Belfast 43 in Ranked because T8 cruisers are at such a disadvantage there. Easy prey at the ranges Ranked is played at. 

You are mostly correct, but the red team will also have a T8. And..

On 6/2/2022 at 5:54 PM, Andrewbassg said:

 155 mm Mogami in ranked It is both challenging and fun An NA Pom Pom cap called her a drived citadel 

 

 

 

I'm proud of this game. Also I took very little damage

 

 

 

....is fun. This result is hardly uncommon. Also I'm talking about possible future use.

 

4 hours ago, SodaBubbles said:

I can't speak to Congress, but it might have better punch and armor. Otherwise why not Massachusetts or Roma or Alabama, all good in Ranked. 

With all due respect to babbies I'm a cruiser main But since you mentioned  them, except Massa, hardly I saw any of those ships, either on EU or NA.

 

[sublimeark]

Mainz is really nice. However, at least for me, any type of cruiser can be punishing without heal, one small mistake can ruin the whole game.