[-AKO-] pontacringeoana Beta Tester 146 posts 27,595 battles Report post #1 Posted June 17, 2022 I'm not against in game gambling but current implementation is easy misleading and will just give a sower taste to most of the players Why? because is gambling x 3 so is hard to asses the cost/reward So many, players easy to gamble, will spend money for nothing they expected 1. You gamble to get tokens 2. You gamble for your wanted reward (probably Tier IX) 3. The final gamble what T IX you get, many of players could end get not what they want after they overspent You could end spending a lot of money and get a T IX you will not play with So as is better to buy the ship you wanted with a discount coupon what is the goal of this event? to play with people weaknesses for some profit This is not fair play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RuruushuVuiBuritania Players 695 posts 5,720 battles Report post #2 Posted June 17, 2022 Might not be fair play, morally correct or upstanding, but it is legal, and that is all that matters to WG. Or do you think they accidentally posted the article on the Depot a day after release? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corpsetaker Players 225 posts 372 battles Report post #3 Posted June 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, pontacringeoana said: I'm not against in game gambling but current implementation is easy misleading and will just give a sower taste to most of the players Why? because is gambling x 3 so is hard to asses the cost/reward So many players easy to gamble will spent money for nothing they expected 1. You gamble to get tokens 2. You gamble for your wanted reward (probably Tier IX) 3. The final gamble what T IX you get, many of them could ne not what you want You could end spending a lot of money and get a T IX you will not play with So as is better to buy the ship you wanted with a discount coupon what is the goal of this event? to play with people weaknesses for some profit This is not fair play Hello, Right now unless you are currently one of those people who have the option of the premium container first it is cheaper to use your 25% dub discount and just purchase the Tier IX ship you want straight away. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #4 Posted June 17, 2022 Just buy a what ever the hell you want in the premium store if you're gonna spend real cash. Depot isn't fair, but we are talking about the same people that said you could get Puerto Rico for free But when questioned if they would do it for free they gave a disguised no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #5 Posted June 17, 2022 This event isn't supposed to be fair. it's supposed to test the waters. The basic idea is having an RNG event where there are big prizes among the bull droppings. The "customers" aren't guaranteed anything and they can't buy all offered bundles. If WG makes money, then they will continue with this design. Imagine the next event, Musashi, Kamikaze, Enterprise, and other ships in rare and expensive bundles. The problem is, you can't buy everything. WG rigs it so that the rare ships are in the next bundle after you've spent your tokens. Bad "luck", try next time "customer". Have you noticed the Rip-Off in the Armory event doesn't have a drop percentage? That's how WG can walk around their promise to publish drop rates. It's not a lie, it's just an omission. And now you know why I don't respect WG employees. PS: I'm not allowed to use the word "sucker" here. Hey, rube! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #6 Posted June 17, 2022 56 minutes ago, pontacringeoana said: This is not fair play this is russian way of doing business ffs one russian journalist has made several reports about such business ... mostly in russian but at least one seems to have english subtitles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,637 battles Report post #7 Posted June 17, 2022 Just do what I do and ignore all gambling! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SWN] Asatori Players 377 posts 11,666 battles Report post #8 Posted June 17, 2022 Yeah they promised us that they would start publishing the drop rates... I think they did it once or twice, and they quickly figured out that people are less likely to gamble when they know that the odds are shite. And now instead they double down on doing the opposite by wrapping the gambling in more gambling. It's disgusting. The list of WG broken promises: 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #9 Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Aragathor said: This event isn't supposed to be fair. it's supposed to test the waters. This. The only effective action you can take is to not spend money on it; if enough people do that, WG will be more likely to dial things back in future. I'm not optimistic though; from what I see, WG have rather embraced the whole 'mobile' monitisation model. Full disclosure: I spent a little on this thing, because it was in my interests to do so. I may not approve of the model, but I'm not sufficiently free of hypocrisy to make use of it when it benefits me. That said, if the offer had been better (and involved less gambling) I would have spent more. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OYO] FooFaFie Players 837 posts Report post #10 Posted June 17, 2022 Just remember your own lawmakers, which you voted for, don't see a problem with gambling boxes. WG is doing this all according your countries laws. IT ISN'T ILLEGAL!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #11 Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, FooFaFie said: Just remember your own lawmakers, which you voted for, don't see a problem with gambling boxes. WG is doing this all according your countries laws. IT ISN'T ILLEGAL!!!! Burning witches wasnt illegal either, was certainly an unethical and disgusting practice though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #12 Posted June 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: Burning witches wasnt illegal either, was certainly an unethical and disgusting practice though. Because they were not witches... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] OldSchoolFrankie [VPM] Players 989 posts 20,632 battles Report post #13 Posted June 17, 2022 Wargaming gave us a great game, but that's pretty much the positive thing to say. Please do not expect ethical decisions from Wargaming, you will most certainly be disappointed. You can see that everywhere in society today, but Wargaming is very special in my opinion. For Wargaming everything is business there is no room for individual fates. They overdo it with their greed. 31 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said: Just do what I do and ignore all gambling! That's how I deal with it, but it's not that easy for teenagers or addicts. And as a note, Wargaming don't get any money or recommendations from me anymore! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #14 Posted June 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: Because they were not witches... They were as far as they were concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #15 Posted June 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: Burning witches wasnt illegal either, was certainly an unethical and disgusting practice though. People claim damage refunds or what ever the hell for what we did to the witches in the times of kingdoms. You can't Burn witches, is illegal, just like classic Sinterklaas. Can't wait till santa gets cancelled for having elf slaves. WG is a bloody eldritch far worse and more gruesome than a witch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #16 Posted June 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, IndomitableVindication said: You can't Burn witches, is illegal It wasnt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #17 Posted June 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: It wasnt. Satire, You should read how f*Cked up the netherlands are with their whole woke movement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Probeerhetmaar Players 46 posts 227 battles Report post #18 Posted June 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, IndomitableVindication said: Satire, You should read how f*Cked up the netherlands are with their whole woke movement. funny enough I live there and have no problem whatsoever. Strange how people perceive things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #19 Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Probeerhetmaar said: funny enough I live there and have no problem whatsoever. Strange how people perceive things. Woke people dont see their own wokeness To be honest the whole western world seems to be drowning in wokeness. My own country especially. /offtopic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Probeerhetmaar Players 46 posts 227 battles Report post #20 Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, JohnMac79 said: Woke people dont see their own wokeness Rather have you call me woke then be blind and daft for the world around me. But let's keep it on-topic. WG can do the heck they want, they don't force you and we all know morality is a silly woke concept, so who gives a dang anyway. Don't spend a dime and we will all be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K1NGS] PaP_Mentoles [K1NGS] Players 616 posts 17,494 battles Report post #21 Posted June 17, 2022 FFS close your wallets to WeGreedy. Learn at last. Stop giving them your hard earned money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #22 Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Aragathor said: This event isn't supposed to be fair. it's supposed to test the waters. The basic idea is having an RNG event where there are big prizes among the bull droppings. The "customers" aren't guaranteed anything and they can't buy all offered bundles. If WG makes money, then they will continue with this design. Imagine the next event, Musashi, Kamikaze, Enterprise, and other ships in rare and expensive bundles. The problem is, you can't buy everything. WG rigs it so that the rare ships are in the next bundle after you've spent your tokens. Bad "luck", try next time "customer". Have you noticed the Rip-Off in the Armory event doesn't have a drop percentage? That's how WG can walk around their promise to publish drop rates. It's not a lie, it's just an omission. And now you know why I don't respect WG employees. PS: I'm not allowed to use the word "sucker" here. Hey, rube! It´s not a event it´s a scam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #23 Posted June 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Probeerhetmaar said: Rather have you call me woke then be blind and daft for the world around me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #24 Posted June 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Probeerhetmaar said: Rather have you call me woke then be blind and daft for the world around me. But let's keep it on-topic. WG can do the heck they want, they don't force you and we all know morality is a silly woke concept, so who gives a dang anyway. Don't spend a dime and we will all be ok. And just tempt people with a gambling problem with lootboxes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Probeerhetmaar Players 46 posts 227 battles Report post #25 Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Cammo1962 said: And just tempt people with a gambling problem with lootboxes. That's the morality part. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites