Pink people issue

[Andunedhel_GC]

So, this guy in pink.

 

Got it twice in the last 4 games. IT connects, drops a "retreat now" and hides behind the first island he gets (map at the bottom of the pic). Another guy in the team also started the second game with a "Not again", so he also had him multiple times.

It's pink, so clearly it has been reported a gazillion times and yet still there ruining the games of everyone and wasting people's time.

Question is, why? I mean, once upon a time at least pink people had to sit out a number of games, but having got him twice in less than a hour evidently it's not so anymore. HTF it is possible nothing can be done to someone reported dozens of times within a hour? 

 

edited: removed the screenshots due to name and shame! 

If you have evidence of rule violations in game, go and open a CS ticket and provide evidence. 

Thank you. 

 

[Fatal_Ramses]

I got couple of pink griefers too when I was ranking out in Bronze.

 

Flambass put out a video somewhat relating to this matter.

 

[Andunedhel_GC]

27 minuti fa, Fatal_Ramses ha scritto:

somewhat relating to this matter

Well, at least his team mates played, awfully perhaps, but played, they didn't actively sabotage the game multiple times.
 

[pra3y]

On 6/1/2022 at 2:53 PM, Andunedhel_GC said:

So, this guy in pink.

 

Got it twice in the last 4 games. IT connects, drops a "retreat now" and hides behind the first island he gets (map at the bottom of the pic). Another guy in the team also started the second game with a "Not again", so he also had him multiple times.

It's pink, so clearly it has been reported a gazillion times and yet still there ruining the games of everyone and wasting people's time.

Question is, why? I mean, once upon a time at least pink people had to sit out a number of games, but having got him twice in less than a hour evidently it's not so anymore. HTF it is possible nothing can be done to someone reported dozens of times within a hour? 

 

 

@Tiger_TFT you guys encourage your clan members to grief games?

[Probeerhetmaar]

WG values Quantity over Quality because Quantity makes money. They couldn't care less in all other respects. Except offcourse in letting newbe players play in high tier. Then they couldn't care about neither. 

[Andunedhel_GC]

Proprio ora, Probeerhetmaar ha scritto:

WG values Quantity over Quality because Quantity makes money

I don't follow you there. How is a guy possibly having people rage quitting the game making money for WG?

 

In fact, I miss also why the guy himself would do it: in random to amass easy XPs while grinding a ship (100 XP at a time ruining hundreds of games for thousands of people in the process) I would, abstractly, get it, but in bronze to silver struggle, where you will never get a star and, even if you'd get one by mistake, it would be quickly erased by the dozen games you will cause to lose afterwards? What's the point?

[Procrastes]

The phenomenon of people playing the game in order to make a big thing of not playing the game, remains one of the great mysteries of the sea.

[surfer_gr]

really you dont know that the only way to become pink is if you disconnect and cant get back in time that the battle ends? or if you have a power shortage?

and to remove the pink you only have to not disconnect for 2 consecutive battles so the penalty is lifted if you disconnect in between again then takes 4 battles for the pink to be lifted so......... there you go.......reporting does not make you pink :P

[SV_Kompresor]

6 hours ago, surfer_gr said:

really you dont know that the only way to become pink is if you disconnect and cant get back in time that the battle ends? or if you have a power shortage?

and to remove the pink you only have to not disconnect for 2 consecutive battles so the penalty is lifted if you disconnect in between again then takes 4 battles for the pink to be lifted so......... there you go.......reporting does not make you pink :P

Trying to team damage does too obviously. As does doing nothing. Which is probably more likely.

[Sunleader]

15 hours ago, Andunedhel_GC said:

So, this guy in pink.

 

Got it twice in the last 4 games. IT connects, drops a "retreat now" and hides behind the first island he gets (map at the bottom of the pic). Another guy in the team also started the second game with a "Not again", so he also had him multiple times.

It's pink, so clearly it has been reported a gazillion times and yet still there ruining the games of everyone and wasting people's time.

Question is, why? I mean, once upon a time at least pink people had to sit out a number of games, but having got him twice in less than a hour evidently it's not so anymore. HTF it is possible nothing can be done to someone reported dozens of times within a hour? 

 

 

 

This is Name Shaming. So I would recommend Removing the Screenshot. As you may get in Trouble otherwise.

 

 

As for the Reason.

 

Well there is several Options.

 

1.

Obviously he might just be a Troll who is doing it on Purpose for a Laugh or to Protest WG or whatever other Reason he Fancies to use.

 

2.

It might actually be that he is not Pink due to his Actions. But that his Actions are due to being Pink.

Because if I remember right. In the New System if you Turn Pink. You have to Play Several Games without Friendly Fire etc for which you get no Rewards and thus have no Motivation whatsoever to do anything useful for your Team.

Hence him just not being Interested in Playing Properly as he aint getting anything from it anyways.

 

3.

You may not Realize it. But some People in this Game are BEYOND Potato.

And really do think that hiding behind an Island and trying to Snipe from the Distance is a Good Strategy.

Then in fact often being Angry at their Teammates for losing the Game by going forward. Thus not just Dying themselves but also Pushing the Enemy out of the Island Campers own Range ruining his Grand Strategy.

Yes I know it Sounds Ridiculous. And you think nobody could possibly be this Potato. But its True. Some People are really this Potato without having any Malicious Intentions....

 

4.

It might simply be a Bot thats automated to start Matches in Ranked to Die his way up to the Rewards. And which basicly just waits for a Lucky Streak or Winning Teams to carry him through the next Required Checkpoint for Successive Victories.

[surfer_gr]

how you get pink status   fyi   

  https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552990/view/5465662156965413614

 

[Figment]

8 hours ago, Sunleader said:

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5. He's in a ranked save spot, notes the odds of winning due to some mod, considers it a pointless waste of time and in leaving hopes for a quick match over, or maybe a free rank up, while doing something else with his time like watching Obi-Wan, thinking he's just as masterful in defeatism.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

23 hours ago, Fatal_Ramses said:

I got couple of pink griefers too when I was ranking out in Bronze.

 

Flambass put out a video somewhat relating to this matter.

 

The mistake that Flambass makes is assuming Ranked was about skill. It was always about spamming as many games as you could if you were a bad player. If you had skill, you would just advance faster. Ranked has never been about skill and probably never will be.

[Andunedhel_GC]

9 ore fa, Sunleader ha scritto:

 

This is Name Shaming. So I would recommend Removing the Screenshot. As you may get in Trouble otherwise.

 

I'll run the risk.

 

What he did was intentional and repeated over multiple games. I saved the replay of this particular instance if anyone wants to check it out.

 

That wasn't superpotato behaviour, that was intentional repeated game sabotage so, no, unless a moderator says so with a reason or removes it himself, it stays. (and yes, it might be your 4 case, it might be a bot, but still there would be that player behind it so, same thing)

 

While I'm here, let me thank those who elucidated the ways one gets pink. I thought multiple unsportmanship behaviour and afk reports did too, but I suppose that would had been too logical for WG. Most probably, he got pink for disconnecting after having parked behind the islands to start and ruin another match, but I'll never know.

 

[Yedwy]

On 6/1/2022 at 3:57 PM, Fatal_Ramses said:

I got couple of pink griefers too when I was ranking out in Bronze.

 

Flambass put out a video somewhat relating to this matter.

 

Oh please, I was unfortunate enough to come over this pompous BS yesterday and almost threw up, if he actually walked the walk instead of just spewing the usual trash talk he might progress more in the rank... What farming damage (something most CC built their streaming personas around btw) is not actually winning the matches? Who would have ever thought that... 

 

Also lets not forget the obligatory "muh I could grind a T10 in a day nowadays yadda yadda" BS, like yea if you were a CC for several years and stockpiled all kinds of stuff in game that WG threw your way through various means including camos, signals, gold etc ofc you can, same mindset like that guy that said he finished PR grind in a week

[Tiger_TFT]

On 6/1/2022 at 4:39 PM, pra3y said:

@Tiger_TFT you guys encourage your clan members to grief games?

You have me on a disadvantage - i did not read this post when originally posted, and i have no idea whom you are refering too, or talking about...

If the author would send me the picture, i will look into it.  

 

 

 

As for griefing - from wiki:
Griefing is the act of chronically causing sudden annoyance to other members of an online community, or more specifically, intentionally disrupting the immersion of another player in their gameplay.

Im not sure how hiding behind an island would be that - if that was indeed what he/she did - could ever be classified as griefing, when its common use in any mode, by any player.  Load any KOTS, CB Finale or any other competetive gamemode/tournament - and you will se - typicly radar ships sitting behind island covering critical positions - but also almost any other type of ship doing the same.  Dont get me wrong, i dont support or like people hiding 20 km away from behind an island, but its not griefing. 

[Andunedhel_GC]

35 minuti fa, Tiger_TFT ha scritto:

would send me the picture, i will look into it

I didn't keep the picture and the mod deleted it.

 

I can send the replay of the second game he did that and yes, he was griefing, what you will see in the replay he did in another game with me and, from the chat, I think a third game with another of the teammates, all in less than a hour.

 

Let me know how I can transfer you the file.

[BrusilovX]

39 minutes ago, Andunedhel_GC said:

Let me know how I can transfer you the file.

If you click on the name to the left of the post there is an option to message the person.

 

You will, probably, have to upload the replay to WOWS Replays(?) and attach a link (URL?) to the replay.   Be ware there there are warnings about opening replays at the moment as people have been embedding some nasty software in them.

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 8 Stunden, Andunedhel_GC sagte:

I didn't keep the picture and the mod deleted it.

 

I can send the replay of the second game he did that and yes, he was griefing, what you will see in the replay he did in another game with me and, from the chat, I think a third game with another of the teammates, all in less than a hour.

 

Let me know how I can transfer you the file.

Don't forget that replay files are deemed a security risk at the moment. It might be better you run the replay yourself and take several screenshots, e.g. of the team line ups.

[pra3y]

16 hours ago, Tiger_TFT said:

You have me on a disadvantage - i did not read this post when originally posted, and i have no idea whom you are refering too, or talking about...

If the author would send me the picture, i will look into it.  

 

 

 

As for griefing - from wiki:
Griefing is the act of chronically causing sudden annoyance to other members of an online community, or more specifically, intentionally disrupting the immersion of another player in their gameplay.

Im not sure how hiding behind an island would be that - if that was indeed what he/she did - could ever be classified as griefing, when its common use in any mode, by any player.  Load any KOTS, CB Finale or any other competetive gamemode/tournament - and you will se - typicly radar ships sitting behind island covering critical positions - but also almost any other type of ship doing the same.  Dont get me wrong, i dont support or like people hiding 20 km away from behind an island, but its not griefing. 

 

The first part you would have to get it from OP, that I can't help you.

 

As for the 2nd from what I understand from OP's post, your clan member (I checked if he was) just hid behind a rock for the entire game and did nothing (pretty sure he was in a DD? But I could be wrong).  I would consider that griefing since it disrupts the gameplay of the team he is in. And I'm more incline to believe OP for now over your clan member. 

[Andunedhel_GC]

1 ora fa, pra3y ha scritto:

 

The first part you would have to get it from OP, that I can't help you.

 

As for the 2nd from what I understand from OP's post, your clan member (I checked if he was) just hid behind a rock for the entire game and did nothing (pretty sure he was in a DD? But I could be wrong).  I would consider that griefing since it disrupts the gameplay of the team he is in. And I'm more incline to believe OP for now over your clan member. 

I did send him the replay of one of the two games, but more as a matter of curiosity than anything else: unless it's clan mandated or explicitly consented, which I highly doubt or he wouldn't had replied in the first place, I don't think Tiger or his clan are culpable in any way of one of their members' griefing and I don't understand the apparent animosity here. 

[pra3y]

4 minutes ago, Andunedhel_GC said:

I did send him the replay of one of the two games, but more as a matter of curiosity than anything else: unless it's clan mandated or explicitly consented, which I highly doubt or he wouldn't had replied in the first place, I don't think Tiger or his clan are culpable in any way of one of their members' griefing and I don't understand the apparent animosity here. 

None actually. Completely zero animosity.

 

At least not in this case. But imo if you're in a clan then it affects the clan's image when you do this kind of thing. So...... 

[Tiger_TFT]

6 hours ago, pra3y said:

 

The first part you would have to get it from OP, that I can't help you.

 

As for the 2nd from what I understand from OP's post, your clan member (I checked if he was) just hid behind a rock for the entire game and did nothing (pretty sure he was in a DD? But I could be wrong).  I would consider that griefing since it disrupts the gameplay of the team he is in. And I'm more incline to believe OP for now over your clan member. 

It may be annoying, but griefing, not in my book. 

Hiding behind a rock, far far away, has been done by countless players, countless times.. you wanna nameshame them all, you gonna need ask WG to create a new forum, as this one wont have the space needed for them all. 

It is NOT DK-CP policy to tell our players how to play theyre game personal games. No'r do i tell other players of other clans how to do play theyre games.. if i disagree i will voice it, or i will report it, and thats where it stops for me. Actual griefing, - say push my ship around into enemy torpedo's/fire on purpose (one of the actual true acts of griefing i can think of in WOWS), i WILL report.  

There are rules and guidelines in DK-CP about behaviour in chat, and on the field - in competetive matches (Clan Battles/Tournament) - show respect, be polite etc.. But how people otherwise play theyre personal games, are not my task to regulate.. im not the internet/wows-police, nor for my clan, nor for anyone else. 

It doesnt mean i like or condon (apol for spelling) theyre actions (Good/bad/terrible), but i do recognise that telling people how to play theyre personal game - clanmember or not - is not in my job, and in all honesty, its like much else in life - theyre free choice..  Its not in DK-CP, or for that matter - any clans task/job to do (IMHO) - and i know of no other clan,. where there are guidelines/rules of how clan members may or may not play theyre personal games, aslong as they do not perform actions such as cheating, or others - such as personal attacks, etc.  that negativly impact the clan... 

Show me a vid or a picture of one of our members cheat, perform personal attacks on another player, or actually grief (see former mentioned example) - and i will take action. 

Otherwise, it only reflects them - not DK-CP - and weither people will yolo, potato, lemming, hide - thats up to them. Its not how i play, but thats me. 

[Tiger_TFT]

Continued.
 

 

As a sidenote - this is not normal behavour for our clan members - and the person in question - as of this time im writing, has been in our clan for only 2 days.
Either way i will look into it further.

 

 

On a personal note - people are always welcome to contact me privatly if there are concerns regarding our members.

[ross1193]

You also need to realize WG gives u pink REGARSLESS if u get disconnected or can't join a game for a similar issue!!!!!! I had this problen three times because of something to do with MODstation even went orange cause it happened three times! So don't be so quick to judge people as it is WG's fault quite a lot of times with there whole reporting mechanism which in my opinion isn't fit to serve its purpose( whatever that may be), and should be deleted ( along with subs! :))). You should concentrate on just playing the game. There could be many many reasons why people do the things they do which could be related to RL! It is just a game after all, and people shouldn't be so quick to lable others just because u assume your better than them!