Arms race is a Randoms mode now?

[BanzaiPiluso]

Like, wtf WG!

Stop making this game an arcade crap.

[kremlyncek]

Stop making this forum toxic.

[ReapingKnight]

Yes, they removed the second worse gamemode just to add it's replacement as the new second worse gamemode.

 

(Worst being Standard Battle IMO)

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Yes. And, yes, it's more of that arcade crap. No, Standard Mode has not been removed.

[CapnGebs]

The write-up says only in battles with tier 9 and 10 ships. Thanks to the 2 tier match-making that means if you want to be guaranteed of no arms race play tier 6 or lower. It really feels like several of WG's decision lately are driving people to lower tier.

 

Tier 5 and 6 is where my potato skills are most happy anyway :)

[lovelacebeer]

Apparently so, there is a thread on this topic that might interest you OP:

 

 

Personally I liked the suggestion put forward by Shirakami_kon that arms race, dirigible dirby, convoys etc be put in a rotating alternate battle mode similar to operations. 
 

Sadly though that would allow for player choice and WG is steadfastly against that. 

 

[ReDiR20]

Yes, finally!

[Maris_Piper]

8 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

Sadly though that would allow for player choice and WG is steadfastly against that.

Probably because it would show up their lunatic ideas for what they were when players gave them their Extended Finger Back 

[nlegolass]

Played two T10 games yesterday (first ones in weeks, maybe months). Both were arms race. It was such an epic s***show that I don't think I'll ever be playing T10 again in Randoms if this not removed.

 

I preferred epicenter. And that's saying something. 

[BanzaiPiluso]

On 5/25/2022 at 9:47 AM, CapnGebs said:

The write-up says only in battles with tier 9 and 10 ships. Thanks to the 2 tier match-making that means if you want to be guaranteed of no arms race play tier 6 or lower. It really feels like several of WG's decision lately are driving people to lower tier.

 

Tier 5 and 6 is where my potato skills are most happy anyway :)

Thanks for that. 

 

On 5/25/2022 at 10:20 AM, nlegolass said:

Played two T10 games yesterday (first ones in weeks, maybe months). Both were arms race. It was such an epic s***show that I don't think I'll ever be playing T10 again in Randoms if this not removed.

 

I preferred epicenter. And that's saying something. 

Exactly, it was a mess.

 

On 5/25/2022 at 9:20 AM, kremlyncek said:

Stop making this forum toxic.

What else can we expect from you...

[Figment]

3 hours ago, nlegolass said:

I preferred epicenter. And that's saying something. 

Epicenter is fine...

 

 

If there'd be more cover and closing in = being spotted + in range of everyone wouldn't be so punished by an instant pile on.

 

The mode itself isn't the problem there really, problem is they're put on maps where the maps were not designed for the mode in question. Kinda like how a lot of those brawl maps were not designed for brawling, but just random cut-outs from various maps, sometimes creating instant map advantages for one side.

[nlegolass]

Il y a 18 minutes, Figment a dit :

Epicenter is fine...

 

 

If there'd be more cover and closing in = being spotted + in range of everyone wouldn't be so punished by an instant pile on.

 

The mode itself isn't the problem there really, problem is they're put on maps where the maps were not designed for the mode in question. Kinda like how a lot of those brawl maps were not designed for brawling, but just random cut-outs from various maps, sometimes creating instant map advantages for one side.

That makes a lot of sense actually. 

 

Kind of liked epicenter to be completely honest. It's just that as a cruiser main, it was very hard to do anything other than farm any ships going in the caps. But as you mentioned, it's probably because of the map designs. 

 

I can't say the same about arms race though. The bonuses accentuates even more the skill differences between the two teams. The stomps (already there before) take a whole other dimension in this mode. From my (small) experience it's even worse. None of my games lasted more than 8-7 minutes. 7 freaking minutes. 

[Figment]

Yeah, the Arms Race mode is annoying, certainly when you have players who yolo for some upgrade and die without support or have ships that seem to go for an upgrade (or just keep more and more distance) and never get the team an upgrade.

 

The fact that any leverage in numbers tends to skew the fighting faster and faster makes these type of modes very prone to roflstomps.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 hour ago, Figment said:

Yeah, the Arms Race mode is annoying, certainly when you have players who yolo for some upgrade and die without support or have ships that seem to go for an upgrade (or just keep more and more distance) and never get the team an upgrade.

 

The fact that any leverage in numbers tends to skew the fighting faster and faster makes these type of modes very prone to roflstomps.

 

So... it's good for buffing your battle count, then, izzit?

[Figment]

3 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

So... it's good for buffing your battle count, then, izzit?

I don't think it's very representative of a person's skills beyond perhaps the DD and some cruiser players since the rest is reliant on upgrade captures to keep up. It's too much of an uphill battle when attrition means little due to heals. Not quite sure, but think I recall those heals being even more pronounced (faster and stronger) in this mode years ago. The lack of attrition used to feel worse. Recall chasing down a half dead cruiser in a BB and it popping back out full health a minute or so later, despite it not having a heal of its own. Enemy team was fully healed time and again and our team was just limping on with fewer players and no chance to get to the zones or even a kill.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

7 minutes ago, Figment said:

I don't think it's very representative of a person's skills beyond perhaps the DD and some cruiser players since the rest is reliant on upgrade captures to keep up. It's too much of an uphill battle when attrition means little due to heals. Not quite sure, but think I recall those heals being even more pronounced (faster and stronger) in this mode years ago. The lack of attrition used to feel worse. Recall chasing down a half dead cruiser in a BB and it popping back out full health a minute or so later, despite it not having a heal of its own. Enemy team was fully healed time and again and our team was just limping on with fewer players and no chance to get to the zones or even a kill.

 

Well.. that's what adding gimmicks upon gimmicks does. I don't mind reduced attrition in my battles, especially when it comes to me... but I don't like it when it's done in a gimmicky way.

[Migantium_Mashum]

Can you imagine 'Arms Race' on 'Ocean'...

 

I'll just leave it there.

[747BeerDrop]

The mode is great fun, it keeps map campers moving - The 10 paranoid haters and whiners of this game don`t like it.

[flip_66]

I'm sure the silent majority wanted this to be implemented into the random rotation ...

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

Can you imagine 'Arms Race' on 'Ocean'...

 

I'll just leave it there.

 

If it gets me the Ocean I can imagine a lot.

[BanzaiPiluso]

We should get Ocean more often. That's the fix for campers, not Arms Race.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Armsnrace is also in Coop. Feels like putting a saddle on a cow. Pointless.

[Migantium_Mashum]

19 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

If it gets me the Ocean I can imagine a lot.

Me too... 

[Migantium_Mashum]

18 hours ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

Arms race is also in Coop. Feels like putting a saddle on a cow. Pointless.

Don't diss the Rodeo... 

[Keijo_Kalmakoura]

Every update is turning game more like arcade game when it already is mostly arcade and more toxic all game needs is coin slot =)