BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #1 Posted May 22, 2022 T10. 2 Subs + 4 DDs + 1 CV on each team. This is ridiculous. Our subs got killed almost immediately, so it means MM gace us the two less skilled guys. I had to deal with two Subs in one cap. Got shotgunned to the face in the smoke! And aiming at subs it is not clear, is the guy facing this way or the other? Shall I shoot at the red shape or what? Utterly frustrating. All you have are useless depth charges that don't do any damage. You can't throw them forth or change orientation that easily. PLus the CV, plus 2 cruises with radar on the other team? Why to play? Just to feed the other team? MM should stop adding 2 Subs per team + the CV. Also, man, can I have a game withput CVs? Every single game has CVs now. I need to rant, this is so bad, the state of the game is so bad. 16 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #2 Posted May 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, BanzaiPiluso said: T10. 2 Subs + 4 DDs + 1 CV on each team. This is ridiculous. Our subs got killed almost immediately, so it means MM gace us the two less skilled guys. I had to deal with two Subs in one cap. Got shotgunned to the face in the smoke! And aiming at subs it is not clear, is the guy facing this way or the other? Shall I shoot at the red shape or what? Utterly frustrating. All you have are useless depth charges that don't do any damage. You can't throw them forth or change orientation that easily. PLus the CV, plus 2 cruises with radar on the other team? Why to play? Just to feed the other team? MM should stop adding 2 Subs per team + the CV. Also, man, can I have a game withput CVs? Every single game has CVs now. I need to rant, this is so bad, the state of the game is so bad. I feel the pain, just finished a game where i was constantly attacked in my dd by planes and perma spotted by subs. Smoking up just allows the sub to ping and spam you in the smoke, all while planes troll you by flying around overhead getting you shot by the enemy team, because your AA is such trash tier it cant do anything about it. Cant effectively cap because you are outspotted by subs with more firepower than you, you cant depth charge them because they just run away and spotting gets you killed, plus they are pretty much as fast as you are... This game has become such a shitshow. Oh, and WG answer to this seems to be "spreadsheets dont have enough data, we need to extend the rental for another month"... 10 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATJA] Fastmotion [BATJA] Players 664 posts Report post #3 Posted May 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, BanzaiPiluso said: Our subs got killed almost immediately, so it means MM gace us the two less skilled guys. But how did the other Dds perform and which positions in the results they and Subs got? Ig the ships you complain about weren't in TOP 3 at the results then do you really still believe that they were so harmful? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #4 Posted May 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: I feel the pain, just finished a game where i was constantly attacked in my dd by planes and perma spotted by subs. Smoking up just allows the sub to ping and spam you in the smoke, all while planes troll you by flying around overhead getting you shot by the enemy team, because your AA is such trash tier it cant do anything about it. Cant effectively cap because you are outspotted by subs with more firepower than you, you cant depth charge them because they just run away and spotting gets you killed, plus they are pretty much as fast as you are... This game has become such a shitshow. Oh, and WG answer to this seems to be "spreadsheets dont have enough data, we need to extend the rental for another month"... Nah, it's not that. It's just that morale hasn't improved enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V-I-P] deathsadow Players 816 posts 11,045 battles Report post #5 Posted May 22, 2022 Had a great game of 4 DD, 2 tier 10 Sub & a Eagle on the enemy side ... and i was in the Mushashi. It was pure joy to watch how great my early WW2 AA works vs Canberras and Meteors. I stayed afloat for quite long and got at least 82k dmg out .. but it was warming my heart that i ate dmg after dmg with hardly any conterplay to it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #6 Posted May 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, deathsadow said: Had a great game of 4 DD, 2 tier 10 Sub & a Eagle on the enemy side ... and i was in the Mushashi. It was pure joy to watch how great my early WW2 AA works vs Canberras and Meteors. I stayed afloat for quite long and got at least 82k dmg out .. but it was warming my heart that i ate dmg after dmg with hardly any conterplay to it. It was insufficient even for early WW2 standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 913 posts 18,816 battles Report post #7 Posted May 22, 2022 seems standard these days, when i play a DD and try to cap i look at the minimap and see the rest of my team kiting away after the first shot.... leaving you high and dry trying to get out of a sticky situation already knowing you're about to die and it's another losing game, probably explains the current chat ban how i react to this constant fuckery 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SSDZA] PyroA [SSDZA] Players 83 posts 8,827 battles Report post #8 Posted May 22, 2022 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #9 Posted May 22, 2022 Come on, is like you guys pretend to not be having a blast with the current insane amount of fun you get in the game. How could you beat peak entertainment like this? It's impossible. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #10 Posted May 22, 2022 It should be 4 ships between subs and DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-B-M] Takethatyoubeast Players 705 posts 12,887 battles Report post #11 Posted May 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, illy said: seems standard these days, when i play a DD and try to cap i look at the minimap and see the rest of my team kiting away after the first shot.... leaving you high and dry trying to get out of a sticky situation already knowing you're about to die and it's another losing game, probably explains the current chat ban how i react to this constant fuckery I feel that other ships now run even more quickly when the first shot is fired Don’t want anyway to YOLO in but hiding so quickly makes a DD’s job much harder 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #12 Posted May 22, 2022 Message from WG: 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,912 battles Report post #13 Posted May 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: Message from WG: A chunk of the player base is convinced that guy doesn't know how to do his own job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #14 Posted May 22, 2022 This is why I’m not playing randoms, why play if it’s not fun. However WGs attitude can pretty much be summed up with: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 913 posts 18,816 battles Report post #15 Posted May 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, Takethatyoubeast said: I feel that other ships now run even more quickly when the first shot is fired Don’t want anyway to YOLO in but hiding so quickly makes a DD’s job much harder just for fun this is my last game, team ran from C except Roon who got focused by the cv so i went for middle cap hoping for support.... nah nothing zilch nada......game is simply crap to play most days 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #16 Posted May 22, 2022 WG works so hard.. to deliver what "The Player Base TM" wants .... 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] OldPappy Players 758 posts 21,952 battles Report post #17 Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, tocqueville8 said: It should be 4 ships between subs and DDs. There should be NO subs!! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] OldPappy Players 758 posts 21,952 battles Report post #18 Posted May 22, 2022 Being a dd main. i survived and adopted to the radars i survived and overcame - by the skin of my teeth! - the cv rework. (But I came close to quitting many times and sadly had a number of rageplays!) I even took the supercarriers on the chin like a champ because the game was STILL more fun than frustrating. But the god damn awful utterly stupid sheits of subs brought me over the edge. When the smart move for A DD!!!!! is to run from the sub due to the fact that you get spotted, homed and torped to oblivion while barely scratching the effing paint of the sub, then the stupidity of the game has reached RED levels of retardness!!! So from around 40 to 100 games per week, I now do maybe 5. I dont care about the dockyard. i dont care about the french cruisers. I am not sure I will get around those subbies..🤷🏻♂️ Rant over!😀 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #19 Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, OldPappy said: Being a dd main. i survived and adopted to the radars i survived and overcame - by the skin of my teeth! - the cv rework. (But I came close to quitting many times and sadly had a number of rageplays!) I even took the supercarriers on the chin like a champ because the game was STILL more fun than frustrating. But the god damn awful utterly stupid sheits of subs brought me over the edge. When the smart move for A DD!!!!! is to run from the sub due to the fact that you get spotted, homed and torped to oblivion while barely scratching the effing paint of the sub, then the stupidity of the game has reached RED levels of retardness!!! So from around 40 to 100 games per week, I now do maybe 5. I dont care about the dockyard. i dont care about the french cruisers. I am not sure I will get around those subbies..🤷🏻♂️ Rant over!😀 Exactly. We had to adapt to everything but subs are just that push over the hill to 11 in the scale of WG stupidity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] OldPappy Players 758 posts 21,952 battles Report post #20 Posted May 23, 2022 6 hours ago, BanzaiPiluso said: Exactly. We had to adapt to everything but subs are just that push over the hill to 11 in the scale of WG stupidity. Yeah. its sad, frustrating and annoying as the core game is so enjoyable! To see them destroying something so nice like this bit by bit while time and time again just spitting in the faces of a loyal playerbase to cater for new players jumping into the game and then jumping out as it takes far too long to master for them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I401] That_Other_Nid Players 969 posts 11,943 battles Report post #21 Posted May 23, 2022 10 hours ago, tocqueville8 said: It should be 4 ships between subs and DDs. No it should be 2 ships between CVs and subs. All the other classes have been in the game since the beginning. CVs and Subs are both fluff that basically get to run around being annoying without ever contributing to the game. They kinda counter DDs, which have enough problems anyway so just lead to stagnation in domination games. Also why are subs so fast? No other class get a 50% increase in speed over their IRL counterparts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #22 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, That_Other_Nid said: Also why are subs so fast? No other class get a 50% increase in speed over their IRL counterparts. Because this is basically WG's approach to ramming submarines into the game no matter the cost or means in a nutshell. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #23 Posted May 23, 2022 Players 2015: your core game is so awesome! WG: but you can't have nice things! Players 2018: Wait. Stop! What are you doing? WG: You can't have nice things! Players 2022: STOP! NO! PLEASE! WG:YOU CANT HAVE NICE THINGS! YOU -+splosion+- sad player noises /end scene /curtains 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #24 Posted May 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Europizza said: Players: your core game is so awesome! WG: you can't have nice things! Players: Wait. Stop! What are you doing? WG: You can't have nice things! Players: STOP! NO! PLEASE! WG:YOU CANT HAVE NICE THINGS! YOU CANT HAVE NICE THINGS! Nibenay pre 2018: This is an amazing enjoyable game really, I'm so happy it doesn't have the insanity and blingbling of WoT. Nibenay post 2018: That didn't age well. insanity*: Super autoloaders that instant kill you, including OP barn size tank destroyers. HE shells that you can't do anything about that take 50% hp away in a single hit. Wheeled tanks that are immune to being tracked (a vital part of the game). Russian fantasy tanks with 4 tracks that dont' have the main weak spot in the front. Insane p2w ammo that increases your penetration by 50-100% making anything but the strongest armor useless. and so on and so forth. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-B-M] Takethatyoubeast Players 705 posts 12,887 battles Report post #25 Posted May 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Shirakami_Kon said: Because this is basically WG's approach to ramming submarines into the game no matter the cost or means in a nutshell. It’s the only way they can make subs work Same with CV’s and their aircraft production facilities To shoe horn subs into the game they have given them speed that is double / triple what they could do surfaced / submerged, homing torpedoes with absurd range and the ability to stay undetected even from DD’s who IRL were there number one killer And, the crowning turd in the water pipe, DD’s have to run from them 🤦♂️ 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
