Tired of Weimar spam in Narai (can it be banned from it?)

[wot_2016_gunner]

I'm sorry but this is just a bit of a rant of blow off post but...

 

well, i'm just stick tired of seeing a literal spam of Weimars in Narai and on top of that they just steal everything from you. Now if it's one game i'm like: "okay off and hopefully i don't see this guy again"

 

but then, like today i have 3 Narai and in a row weimars just spam everything and steal everything, and i just can see any more and i just rage burst 

 

like this was the last narai of today

 

and after this is couldn't see any more and i tore a hole in my favorite T-shirt 'cause i was just too enraged because of this guy stealing everything and he didn't even get these kills from the convoy, 'cause i had gone there and even then, the shira stole most of them.

 

and then people go "oh it's just a game, play another battle, exc."

 

first of all, it's an operation, so 30min until i can play with the same ship or i need to spend 75k credits (not an issue but i'd rather not to) and plus i'm just tired that because of my team it feels like i'm wasting everything, camos, signals, time; all because of one guy playing spamming his P2W bote ruining my experience.

 

the thing is that i'm even more enraged because now because of this guy i tore a hole in my T-shirt all because of the presence of one guy that didn't allow me to do more.

 

Sorry for the rant guys

 

 

 

 

[Bland_42]

There's no solution, other ships can be equally devastating...

 

Spoiler

 

That's a CL feature, that is fantastic for Narai.

The problem are peoples that like to abuse of that, because playing in a relaxed way it can be a great asset for teamplay.

[wot_2016_gunner]

7 minutes ago, Bland_42 said:

That's a CL feature, that is fantastic for Narai.

yeah thx, i know it.

 

I too play Fiji in Narai, but since i already have Edinburgh i only play her to spade her and pass time until the other ships are playable again in narai

[Nov_A]

Nooooo you cant just complete the objective!!

 

Just play in a coordinated group, no problems were had.

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

Dude, bring a better ship. The object is to get XP, and you are bringing a ship with pitiful dpm. Bring the Helena if it has to be tech tree, she's excellent. But don't blame other players for doing better than you.

[Jvd2000]

Narai is perfect to grind FXP, captain XP and , even if nerfed, silver. I can put camo, dragon flags etc on my premium ship with decent certainty my teammates cannot ruin a good score.

 

Yes, I prefer to use Weimar. I even use it as a dedicated Narai ship. But only once a day for that 50% bonus. I have my Luntjes specced with reload booster and no concealment for the extra dakka. Abruzzi and München work too but  double torps  is just golden. Scharnhorst works well. Actually I can make a good score in any ( fast) BB and cruiser.
 

But whatever ship you have, check your teammates and act accordingly. If they are not that good act more conservative. If they rush, play more aggressive. 
 

edit: mostly it’s the driver of the ship. I see wannabe “Weimar superscore “ players fail just as much as players with “ not ideal ships” shine.  Can’t blame good players playing their game. Nor will a Weimar make players instant good at Narai.

[wot_2016_gunner]

@PsychoClownfish thx but i've already grinded through Helena in Narai already and sadly i already knew very well that Heavy cruisers aren't really great for Operations (narai especially, others, well, you can make then work a bit better). The reason why i'm playing Algerie is to grind Charles Martel more quickly. 

 

My problem is not really the Weimar spam, after all everyone is free to play whatever they want, my problem is when it feels as there's nothing left for you 'cause someone else got it already.  

 

Like, i just wish that those guys would remember that their team exists a little and they too would like to do some stuff.

[Johnny_Moneto]

Operation Narai is designed in a way that 1 player can deal a massive amount of damage while the others are there to just do the boring parts.

As far as I can tell there is no other operation designed like this, not even Killer Whale.

 

For the time being: either play one of the farmer's ships or don't waste boosters in Narai.

[Jvd2000]

5 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

@PsychoClownfish thx but i've already grinded through Helena in Narai already and sadly i already knew very well that Heavy cruisers aren't really great for Operations (narai especially, others, well, you can make then work a bit better). The reason why i'm playing Algerie is to grind Charles Martel more quickly. 

 

My problem is not really the Weimar spam, after all everyone is free to play whatever they want, my problem is when it feels as there's nothing left for you 'cause someone else got it already.  

 

Like, i just wish that those guys would remember that their team exists a little and they too would like to do some stuff.

Just finished my T7 ITA dd grind in Narai. And I think this ship ( and all dd ‘s)is far from ideal. But stil got 10k xp from my last game play. You need to know where to push and when to hide. Some players take long routes with slow ships. Then you can’t really complain if you end with low xp. That and players that are blind for the situation. Cruisers / BB staying behind the convoy. Not reinforcing weak flank or replacing a dead dd/ cruiser failing its mission to kill the cv ( after being useless the entire match)

 

So I rather have a few skillful players taking a bit more out of the xp pie then losing out because of brainless “ ….” that cost me stars.

 

By the way 900+-1100 BXP is still an ok result. 1200+ is something to aim for. 1600+ is good. 2200 is very good and requires you to massacre the bots. It also helps if one of your team mate dies at the beginning of one/ 2 are absolute potatoes.

[Kruzenstern]

The real problem is that the bots don't shoot the Weimar that sinks them on spawn. So a well played Weimar can take out Indianapolis, QE, Atlanta, Schorsch, and Colorado all by itself in like one minute.  If bots came in with loaded weapons and would shoot the greatest threat, this Weimar domination would be greatly diminished as she doesn't really take too well to being shot. She will still be a great ship because of high speed and high DPM, but not as dominating. Same with Fiji and other cruisers that overperform on Narai.

[wot_2016_gunner]

9 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said:

Just finished my T7 ITA dd grind in Narai. And I think this ship ( and all dd ‘s)is far from ideal. But stil got 10k xp from my last game play. You need to know where to push and when to hide. Some players take long routes with slow ships. Then you can’t really complain if you end with low xp. That and players that are blind for the situation. Cruisers / BB staying behind the convoy. Not reinforcing weak flank or replacing a dead dd/ cruiser failing its mission to kill the cv ( after being useless the entire match)

 

So I rather have a few skillful players taking a bit more out of the xp pie then losing out because of brainless “ ….” that cost me stars.

 

By the way 900+-1100 BXP is still an ok result. 1200+ is something to aim for. 1600+ is good. 2200 is very good and requires you to massacre the bots. It also helps if one of your team mate dies at the beginning of one/ 2 are absolute potatoes.

Thank you 

[NewHorizons_1]

42 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said:

Abruzzi and München work too but  double torps  is just golden.

Yorck keeps very quiet.

[Jvd2000]

9 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Yorck keeps very quiet.

But not premium so less farm. Yorck can be perfectly used in Narai for grinding the ship but when premiums are available they are economically superior.

[Takethatyoubeast]

1 hour ago, PsychoClownfish said:

But don't blame other players for doing better than you.

But….but…..what is the point of the forum then 🙃

[lup3s]

52 minutes ago, Johnny_Moneto said:

As far as I can tell there is no other operation designed like this, not even Killer Whale.

 

Ryujo

 

1 hour ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

@PsychoClownfish thx but i've already grinded through Helena in Narai already and sadly i already knew very well that Heavy cruisers aren't really great for Operations (narai especially, others, well, you can make then work a bit better). The reason why i'm playing Algerie is to grind Charles Martel more quickly. 

 

CAs can work - though it does depend on a bit on the team distribution.

With CLs I usually go to take care of the CV, with CAs I usually go to the enemy transports.

 

Last time Narai was on I grinded my New Orleans in it and it went quite well.

 

Spoiler

 

[Bland_42]

Like others said, with the right approach and with the right conditions every ship can do very well.

And I'm not a great player by any means.

 

Spoiler

 

[invicta2012]

Algerie is good in Narai, though. She has great range and all the tools you need - torpedoes, hydro, and speed boost.  Double torps would be nice, of course, but you can't have everything. Try adding a speed flag, you'll be faster than Weimar and have better range. 

[albin322]

so stat shameing is against the rules what about stat bragging ? cause he is better then the rest of you ?

[BLUB__BLUB]

I prefer to use Flint (or Rahmat...) or even Hood or Lolorado.

And yes I go after the CV with those, or the transports (usually I bring my son in a DD in div though). 

You can also take a sneaky position with Hood and blap a few citadels into the Missouri. 

Also... the mess you can make, after killing the CV (and that DD+ cruiser) and then entering the harbour from the rear... 

 

TIP: If you take 5 good players in a div, you do not need to bring any randoms.

You can just have it all and divide between 5 players...  

[Siagor]

One word: Atlanta.

 

Six words more : with 21 points Bull Halsey.

[wot_2016_gunner]

2 hours ago, Jvd2000 said:

By the way 900+-1100 BXP is still an ok result. 1200+ is something to aim for. 1600+ is good. 2200 is very good and requires you to massacre the bots. It also helps if one of your team mate dies at the beginning of one/ 2 are absolute potatoes.

thx for this a lot btw. i guess my issue is a carryover from when i was still going to school and i had to get what my family expected from me and if i didn't they started hating me like hell  so what i think happens is that i know what i can do but i see that not happening for a reason of another and i start getting frustrated and enraged.

I think this is going to be the hardest thing for me to get over with (since it's an IRL thing as well).

 

Thanx for the help anyway everyone 

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

3 hours ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

@PsychoClownfish thx but i've already grinded through Helena in Narai already and sadly i already knew very well that Heavy cruisers aren't really great for Operations (narai especially, others, well, you can make then work a bit better). The reason why i'm playing Algerie is to grind Charles Martel more quickly. 

 

My problem is not really the Weimar spam, after all everyone is free to play whatever they want, my problem is when it feels as there's nothing left for you 'cause someone else got it already.  

 

Like, i just wish that those guys would remember that their team exists a little and they too would like to do some stuff.

I get it man. But whenever I play Operations I just try to get the max out of it, and you do that by doing damage and fulfilling the objectives. I usually combine it with the daily win bonus, so I always go for max xp. Everyone has the same chance. so have it. ;)

[NewHorizons_1]

58 minutes ago, Siagor said:

One word: Atlanta.

Agreed, though it took me a while to build up the guts to take such a fragile ship in there.

58 minutes ago, Siagor said:

Six words more : with 21 points Bull Halsey.

My Halsey is trained for Des Moines where his enhanced turret traverse & ammo switching skills work nicely.

But my 21pt Gearing cmdr has IFHE & Heavy HE & SAP Shells** for cruisers - turns Atlanta into a bit of a damage monster.

 

** Atlanta avoids the concealment penalty due to its small gun calibre

 

[invicta2012]

3 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Agreed, though it took me a while to build up the guts to take such a fragile ship in there.

Chumphon is good Atlanta practice... that smoke comes in handy from time to time if you need to work out the best routes. The TRB is useful too. 

[BrusilovX]

1 hour ago, Siagor said:

One word: Atlanta.

 

Six words more : with 21 points Bull Halsey.

How about a Flint with the same captain?