unsporting cv

[cruisingtoo]

Hi, I am trying to find a balance between a proactive and a less aggressive gaming contribution with my cv, mostly in Co-op mode. I get penalized frequently. Should I advance and expose the carrier or pull beside and let the aircrafts score the points? When blamed "inactive" I participate with the fast moving carrier into the enemy field, but that is not appreciated. Surely, losing the carrier and saving the fighters makes no sense. In simple words, how do you fairly play a cv (which is my intention of course)? Tks a lot

[Adm_Lindemann]

You might be relatively new here but CV and sub players are not welcomed.

[Verblonde]

19 minutes ago, cruisingtoo said:

In simple words, how do you fairly play a cv

Incoming...!

 

[cruisingtoo]

Tks Admiral, yes I admit I am new and I can share the sense of unjustice when attacked by cv or SS. So,

15 minutes ago, Adm_Lindemann said:

You might be relatively new here but CV and sub players are not welcomed.

is the penalty the message that one should refrain of playing with a cv or SS ?

[Adm_Lindemann]

1 minute ago, cruisingtoo said:

Tks Admiral, yes I admit I am new and I can share the sense of unjustice when attacked by cv or SS. So,

is the penalty the message that one should refrain of playing with a cv or SS ?

That explanation is quite right.

[GeniusMage]

If you're in Coop, don't move your hull, just take your planes, find the closest enemy and start killing. The bots don't mind. Yet.

In PvP modes, you can find yourself an island near a flank to park behind and help that flank win, or run around in circles in your spawn and help where it's needed/closest.

Make sure to not get your hull spotted or as little as possible, as your cheeks will be clapped if you are visible and in range.

[ZeuSueZ1337]

27 minutes ago, cruisingtoo said:

"(...)how do you fairly play a cv (which is my intention of course)?(...)"

Why on earth would you wanna play _any_ boat fairly?

You should employ all tricks and imbalances of any given boat in the current meta. At any time.

 

This game provides a total of zero prices for being "tHe GoOd GuY" ---- expect perhaps karma.

There is no award, reward, resources for playing like a good ol' english gentlemen.

 

If you wanna give CV's a go, get right into it. Use the pretty OP mechanics. Same goes for T11 (aka. sUpAh ShIpS). Knock yourself out.

....but you shouldn't expect love and butterflies from your opponents and/or teammates for that matter. Examine this forum for evidence.

 

But above all; play PvP instead of Co-op.

Co-op is as interesting as looking on a whitewall dry up - while sleeping.....

[cruisingtoo]

Hi Genius, very clear, thank you, cheers

[Verblonde]

4 minutes ago, cruisingtoo said:

is the penalty the message that one should refrain of playing with a cv or SS ?

You'll get quite a lot of messages that are - essentially - a resounding 'yes'; personally, I'm not that militant - I'd rather CVs were fixed (they're clearly too powerful) but I don't get irrational when people play them. Submarines, on the other hand, are a bloody menace, and I report anyone I see playing them in PvP, until I run out of reports; if you don't want to be despised by the bulk of the established players, avoid submarines.

 

With regards to CVs, you'll probably be less despised if you learn to play them well (at least by people on your own side), so - with luck - some of the good CV players on here may be able to provide pointers.

 

Personally, I don't play CVs in PvP generally, so any advice I might offer would be of dubious value.

[cruisingtoo]

Well , dear Verblonde and ZeuSue, I very much appreciate your clear replies and I got the message five on five. The SS have more or less been withdrawn. And I limit myself to Co-Op battles anyhow, as my own definition of "unsporting" is the at times complete concealment  and inactivity of the enemy ships, e.g. submerged battleships firing at you from a short distance or an entire invisible fleet of ghosts and long periods of no-action. Of course I should use the radiomagnetic search, but then that was also true for the SS?  Kind regards and thanks again 

[Verblonde]

9 minutes ago, cruisingtoo said:

Well , dear Verblonde and ZeuSue, I very much appreciate your clear replies and I got the message five on five.

BTW if you haven't found it yet, this section of the forum may be of interest: https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/forum/308-aircraft-carriers/

 

It's worth noting though that most people seem to only really visit the General Discussion section with any frequency, so if you want a quick answer to something, that's usually the section to head for...

[Hades_warrior]

1 hour ago, cruisingtoo said:

In simple words, how do you fairly play a cv 

There is no such thing as playing WC class fairly.

Words fairly and carriers are not compatible in any sentence.

[Skywalker_369]

1 hour ago, cruisingtoo said:

Hi, I am trying to find a balance between a proactive and a less aggressive gaming contribution with my cv, mostly in Co-op mode. I get penalized frequently. Should I advance and expose the carrier or pull beside and let the aircrafts score the points? When blamed "inactive" I participate with the fast moving carrier into the enemy field, but that is not appreciated. Surely, losing the carrier and saving the fighters makes no sense. In simple words, how do you fairly play a cv (which is my intention of course)? Tks a lot

Welcome to the CV side brother , in this game we have 2 sides  CV players and Haters , becuase CV can break camping , and these guys wants just a safe place to camp and snipe each on other on the red line of the map , lol.  but CV will push them and make the play ,  so CV = no campers.  thats why these ppls hates CV.  i advise you to do not listen to others , keep playing CV and keep working on your CV . 

 

Good luck in battle pilot .

[ghostbuster_]

48 minutes ago, Skywalker_369 said:

Welcome to the CV side brother , in this game we have 2 sides  CV players and Haters , becuase CV can break camping , and these guys wants just a safe place to camp and snipe each on other on the red line of the map , lol.  but CV will push them and make the play ,  so CV = no campers.  thats why these ppls hates CV.  i advise you to do not listen to others , keep playing CV and keep working on your CV . 

 

Good luck in battle pilot .

I bet you dont even know what camping means. 

I love it when people make such comments despite lacking tremendous amount of game knowladge. 

[albin322]

21 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said:

I bet you dont even know what campibg means. 

I love it when people make such comments despite lacking tremendous amount of game knowladge. 

he pretty much only play cv so that would be true!

[Fastmotion]

2 hours ago, Adm_Lindemann said:

You might be relatively new here but CV and sub players are not welcomed.

Why so?

 

I like CVs but subs i love.

 

I have never heard any adequate arguments against those ship types and that doesn't sound reasonable to say that some ship types and some apple types are not welcomed or smth. Those ship players are in almost every battle and do you think that they have any hatred inside? No, they enjoy and love those ships. Do you think that it is polite to say your hatred to them? No, would you like if people would say that your favourite ships is not welcomed and so on? WG, sub/CV players, me, we don't have any problems with those ships. Do you think that it is constructive andethical to say that cruisers and pork are not welcomed?

 

As i understood the original post then the question was about Coop battles. My answer is that i drive immediately towards enemies with all ship types when i play Coop. You get additional experience points if your CV makes damage with secondary guns. And the battle ends when youarrive to the middle. In the Coop you can't learn much. There are special occasions when people play it but for learning you should use Randoms.

 

First try more safe positioning and later try more riskier ways.

If the MM and Map looks risky then i press the key S immediately and start to swim backwards. You can also stay in your place for 1 minute and then decide if you wan to risk and go closer to the middle behind a rock. At the end minutes of the battle decide if you want to go Cap with your CV. Shortly that's it.

[Verblonde]

6 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

pork are not welcomed?

[NewHorizons_1]

3 hours ago, cruisingtoo said:

I get penalized frequently

Are you talking about getting reported by players, ie losing karma/static in chat or getting warnings from the game about inactivity or unsporting behaviour.

There's not a lot you can do about the former, as carriers are not popular with the vast majority of the player base.

Attempting to mitigate what the enemy carrier can do by dropping fighter squadrons to intercept hostile aircraft may help a little with that - at least you made an effort do stop the enemy carrier strike, even if it's not that effective.

 

The warning about inactivity or unsporting conduct could well be automated though, and nothing to do with what the other players in the match think of you.

Carrier players can get an automatic penalty if they fail to do any damage with their aircraft.

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

2 hours ago, cruisingtoo said:

Tks Admiral, yes I admit I am new and I can share the sense of unjustice when attacked by cv or SS. So,

is the penalty the message that one should refrain of playing with a cv or SS ?

Yep. Lots of players - me included - make it a habit to report CV and sub players. They're griefers, and the least we can do is return the favor as much as possible.

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

16 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

Why so?

 

I like CVs but subs i love.

 

I have never heard any adequate arguments against those ship types

And you never will, because you have your index fingers in your ears while screaming "Lalalalaaaaa I can't HEAR YOU!!!!"

[JohnMac79]

3 hours ago, cruisingtoo said:

Hi, I am trying to find a balance between a proactive and a less aggressive gaming contribution with my cv, mostly in Co-op mode. I get penalized frequently.

 

[Yamashiro42]

2 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

There is no such thing as playing WC class fairly.

Words fairly and carriers are not compatible in any sentence.

What about:
“Your statement about the carriers is fairly accurate.”?

[Dutchy_2019]

1 hour ago, Skywalker_369 said:

Welcome to the CV side brother , in this game we have 2 sides  CV players and Haters , becuase CV can break camping , and these guys wants just a safe place to camp and snipe each on other on the red line of the map , lol.  but CV will push them and make the play ,  so CV = no campers.  thats why these ppls hates CV.  i advise you to do not listen to others , keep playing CV and keep working on your CV . 

 

Good luck in battle pilot .

 

You know, there is actually a middle ground.

 

• CV mains, who pretty much only play CV, have actually little knowledge of the game, consider any critique on CVs completely unjustified, and such.
• CV mains, who are also all-rounders, who are good, have actual knowledge about the game and game mechanics, but who also see the various aspects of CVs that are broken, and make CVs (too) powerful in the game, especially in the hands of a capable player. Usually they are also (very) good in the other classes (BB, Cruiser, DD) Most of the CV (super-)unicums seem to fall in this category.
• All rounders / other class mains who play CVs to (a) have some idea how they are played, and (b) play them to get missions done / collections done / grind the lines so they have a complete port. Most of these also admit that there are many issues with CV's that cause serious problems for in-game interaction.
• Outright CV haters who will NOT play CV under any circumstances.

 

BTW, WG has openly admitted that they have buffed CVs in various ways to lower the skill floor (making them much easier to play), so the skill gap between players at the low end top end gets smaller, and one CV player being good is less often an autowin for that team, unlike with RTS CV. WG has DELIBERATELY made them one of the easiest classes to play, giving them some massive advantages over other classes (like the automated VERY long DCP, no detoniation, idiotically short fires and so on). For the same reason they have made them very powerful compared to other classes. Which is the reason why you see so many decent to good players have CV statistics that are much better than those for other ships.

 

[Fastmotion]

2 hours ago, Skywalker_369 said:

Welcome to the CV side brother , in this game we have 2 sides  CV players and Haters , becuase CV can break camping , and these guys wants just a safe place to camp and snipe each on other on the red line of the map , lol.  but CV will push them and make the play ,  so CV = no campers.  thats why these ppls hates CV.  i advise you to do not listen to others , keep playing CV and keep working on your CV . 

 

Good luck in battle pilot .

I mostly agree with your opinions.

In my opinion the haters league hates both CVs and Subs and not only CVs. It isn ot allowed among them to feel sufferings only because of CVs.

I think it is partially true that Cvs help to reduce passive boring game style but it is only a smaller partial help on that matter.

I agree with your idea that it is not worth to listen to the haters hive. But not entirely. You can still listen but don't get upset and don't fall to their level.

Keep your ruleset but listen which faulty opinions they have today.

 

I see subs and CVs in most battles and i am sure al lthose players love those ships. So, yes, you can all ignore haters club, but you can also try to explain soemtimes to them things. And also understand that they suffer a lot and are in pain. So, be supportive and friendly.

 

[Bubba_S]

 

4 hours ago, cruisingtoo said:

Hi, I am trying to find a balance between a proactive and a less aggressive gaming contribution with my cv, mostly in Co-op mode. I get penalized frequently. Should I advance and expose the carrier or pull beside and let the aircrafts score the points? When blamed "inactive" I participate with the fast moving carrier into the enemy field, but that is not appreciated. Surely, losing the carrier and saving the fighters makes no sense. In simple words, how do you fairly play a cv (which is my intention of course)? Tks a lot

When I kill and destroy in ranked  with my CV I do feel for their loss…. It makes me sad….really!