Hot Fix: Why We Need UX Research

[gnist0s]

3 hours ago, WWDragon said:

Oh there are many yes but then we have some obvious bias from both sides.

 

I think WG have a fear that by adding a Co-Op mode they lose players from PvP and how PvP is the focus of development leading so having ships that simply do not function well in Co-Op due to their nature and the other way around, slow battleships can work in Random due to their static nature but wont in Co-Op.

 

This matters because WG defaults to Random in relation to balance, the developers are biased towards PvP as well having a aversion towards Co-Op even if that have changed a bit in the last years (Yamamoto used to be PvP only), that they dont listen to PvE players is no surprised because there is only there due to a significant enough part of the playerbase that plays Co-Op and Operations almost exclusively despite WG best efforts.

 

No matter what feedback PvE gives, it will be ignored since as far Lesta is concerned, the game is balanced entirely on Randoms and only Random matters in development, thus all other game modes suffer as a result. This is a ingrained culture on the development team that would be hard to be changed.

 

Well Dragon, i may not be as clear in the words like you, but most of the abowe was what i was trying to say (i have had a warning lately for kicking wg over the legs, with words that is, so i try to be more like "pat on the cheek").

Lately i was aware how many that only play coop therefore i took some thauds about the irregularities i found there, and you may be right that wg dont care about coop and operations. I use coop to test variations in captain skills and equip, especially when its free to change captains skills - and of course its easier to get some missions home in coop :-)

 

I may have stept on your toes Dragon, sorry for that, but im old (66), thats my privlege as senior citizen      HAVE A NICE WEEKEND ALL OF YOU  

[mitablesan]

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[admiraldelorin]

On 5/13/2022 at 12:41 PM, britinmadrid said:

But When the majority of the expressed opinions are negative ...

Why should the expressed opinions matter more then the non expressed opinoins.. aka the other  99.9% of players?  Again, sustainable continuity as per business model ** , is the name of the game. So basically you unsuccessfully try to break the business model by spouting tabloid arguments.. and then wonder why nobody listens. Wargame shows how they (partly ) draw their conclusion and again all you can do is spout wild claims..  all in all a guarantee for not being listened too, smart move nonetheless would be to still check your points  out but as soon as evidence shows differnt. discard them.   Maybe these forums are only to keep an eye out for you..in the off chance you migth have a point?  Till then your points are just your opinon.. to be valued as your opinon. no more no less.  You do not get to decide what the other 99.9%'s opions are.  Live with it.

** in a finite market,  all growth will peter out when monopoly is achieved.

[britinmadrid]

1 hour ago, admiraldelorin said:

Why should the expressed opinions matter more then the non expressed opinoins.. aka the other  99.9% of players?

Please prove that statement! Where on earth did you get the 99.9% figure from? You claim I 'spout' opinions whilst exaggerating to the maximum. Boring hypocrite!

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 Again, sustainable continuity as per business model ** , is the name of the game.

** in a finite market,  all growth will peter out when monopoly is achieved

This is true ... in a text book. I take it that you are a first-year university student making paper arguments as never in real life do you see perfect monopolies. Never. Again, you are 'spouting'.

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So basically you unsuccessfully try to break the business model by spouting tabloid arguments..

'Tabloid' = an attack on the validity of the argument based on the socio-economic demographic of the consumer of said media ... which makes you an elitist snob who dismisses the validity of qualitative data. Snob + arrogance = invalid argument based on preconceived notions. Learn to research without prejudice.

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Wargame shows how they (partly ) draw their conclusion and again all you can do is spout wild claims..  all in all a guarantee for not being listened too, smart move nonetheless would be to still check your points  out but as soon as evidence shows differnt. discard them.   Maybe these forums are only to keep an eye out for you..in the off chance you migth have a point?  Till then your points are just your opinon.. to be valued as your opinon. no more no less.  You do not get to decide what the other 99.9%'s opions are. 

Again, emotive arguments with no internal logic or fact-based data to support them. Speculation as is evidenced by your use of the modal auxiliary verb 'might'. You repeat 99.9% as a statistic - was your spittle hitting the screen?

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Live with it.

Puberty rage much? Finish your incomplete education, work for 30 years in the real world like I have and then come back to me. I won't respond to you again as tantrums bore me. :-)

[admiraldelorin]

On 5/25/2022 at 4:49 PM, britinmadrid said:

Please prove that statement! Where on earth did you get the 99.9% figure from? You claim I 'spout' opinions whilst exaggerating to the maximum. Boring hypocrite!

This is true ... in a text book. I take it that you are a first-year university student making paper arguments as never in real life do you see perfect monopolies. Never. Again, you are 'spouting'.

'Tabloid' = an attack on the validity of the argument based on the socio-economic demographic of the consumer of said media ... which makes you an elitist snob who dismisses the validity of qualitative data. Snob + arrogance = invalid argument based on preconceived notions. Learn to research without prejudice.

Again, emotive arguments with no internal logic or fact-based data to support them. Speculation as is evidenced by your use of the modal auxiliary verb 'might'. You repeat 99.9% as a statistic - was your spittle hitting the screen?

Puberty rage much? Finish your incomplete education, work for 30 years in the real world like I have and then come back to me. I won't respond to you again as tantrums bore me. :-)

LOL
- post # 54 (not the nr of forum users that posted)  vs nr of players (i accpt the actual nr of online players on any time of the day) you tell me when the posters rize above 1 %%  (1/1000)
- you have not been around long enough to assert that.. :)  but you can presume all you want .. yea that is spouting.
- tabloid as in the "journalism" that fails to investigate and prest all sides of an argument
- funny self defying logic, call pots kettle...
- I suggest you come back when you studied more and worked more then I did. I like that very much, does that mean we never will hear from you again?  (BTW tx for the compliment)

[admiraldelorin]

For those that can see reason, all development and decision wil be towrads continuity, either to please those that fill the black hole that sucks up all the financial resources or to take the measures that will ensure continued financial gain. As long as you can't proof that your desires are in sync with that mission why would anybody listen to you? All beashing wil  just fall on deaf ears, in fact if at any time you would have an resaonable argument it will still fall on deaf ears because of the aversion against you. Too much specdfulcation and tantrums going on.. but hey defy and just keep going at it.. it's an only lightly moderated forum.

[britinmadrid]

On 6/9/2022 at 4:17 PM, admiraldelorin said:

Too much specdfulcation and tantrums going on.. but hey defy and just keep going at it.. it's an only lightly moderated forum.

Your endless denial of the majority view isn't a tantrum? Multiple people argue against you with facts, yet you still keep posting claiming that you alone are right and everyone else is wrong?

 

Okay ...

 

... you do realise (I am a parent and have experience) that your behavious pretty much defines a tantrum?

[admiraldelorin]

On 6/13/2022 at 3:02 PM, britinmadrid said:

Your endless denial of the majority view isn't a tantrum? Multiple people argue against you with facts, yet you still keep posting claiming that you alone are right and everyone else is wrong?

 

Okay ...

 

... you do realise (I am a parent and have experience) that your behavious pretty much defines a tantrum?

Majority view?  On the topic of  UX research and why it would be needed.. ?  And you are a parent and you have experience with tantrums?     
I hardly read facts here just opinions.. "not listening to"  (us?) is the only true fact uttered here.   Facts could be determined by research, but you are in total denial in a forum thread on that topic...  so yeah keep on selling an opinion voiced by a few,  the "majority view" and sell it as fact .. It's just the view of the majoirty of posters or the view of the majority of the few that are vocal..  the other tens of thousands vote with their time spent playing and or hard currency..  the ones that determine continuity... you are free to disagree.:)    but you are not free to claim that you speek for them.  UX research results would agree with you when you were right..  I am sure it will corrolate with user behaviour, it will have to, to make accurate predictions..    

[britinmadrid]

10 hours ago, admiraldelorin said:

Majority view? 

Yes. Yes. Yes. As the posts on this Forum may be counted, yes! :-) Quantifiable date, so accept it or tantrum more. 

 

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... but you are not free to claim that you speek for them.

If I count quantifiable posts on the Forum, then yes I am! 

 

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It's just the view of the majoirty of posters or the view of the majority of the few that are vocal..  the other tens of thousands vote with their time spent playing and or hard currency..  the ones that determine continuity...

Liar! Poltroon! Donald Trump! 

 

I can count the posts I refer to, but you claim that is invalid as the, " ... the other tens of thousands ...", agree with you. How do you know? You are either a liar or very unintelligent as you discount my quantifiable data, but admit your made up, date. Who are these people? Show me their names! Post the online petition here. Oh ... you cannot.

 

You are immature, a liar/unintelligent, a shill and boring. I declare victory in this argument as you are a tawdry little white knight. I will never reply to your posts again or engage you in conversation as you cite no arguments which are backed up by numbers, or logic. Feel free to post here claiming victory. No one will agree with you until you communicate as an adult and stop stamping your foot in a fit of childish pique.

 

Enjoy the game as it flushes down the toilet! 

 

P.S. Scroll up in this thread and count the positive versus negative icons awarded to your posts ... Zzzzzzzz!

[WorthyOpponent]

Just so they can use the fact that they collect some data as an excuse to make up a phantom "silent majority" and act like players want [insert widely unwanted thing here].

 

[admiraldelorin]

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On 6/16/2022 at 2:37 AM, admiraldelorin said:

Majority view? 

Yes. Yes. Yes. As the posts on this Forum may be counted, yes! :-) Quantifiable date, so accept it or tantrum more. 

 

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... but you are not free to claim that you speek for them.

If I count quantifiable posts on the Forum, then yes I am! 

 

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It's just the view of the majoirty of posters or the view of the majority of the few that are vocal..  the other tens of thousands vote with their time spent playing and or hard currency..  the ones that determine continuity...

Liar! Poltroon! Donald Trump! 

 

 

As a public forum  I presume I can use this as a prime example of Trumpism ?  
Democracy = Those that attend the demo are the majority ..    
Oh and they win the ellection ...

nough said

[admiraldelorin]

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Just so they can use the fact that they collect some data as an excuse to make up a phantom "silent majority" and act like players want [insert widely unwanted thing here].

You suggest WG is spending 2? FTE to ensure that unwanted things eat up costly resources that benefit the operations of the company..?  nah according to you it is much better to have a forum and read the 60 posts on the spenditure of those 2 FTE,  then drop the FTE's and do what the majority in the forum posters demand.. :)

Ah all [edited],

let WG just have the authorites on Cyprus decide what gets in the game and what doesn't.. Cyprus' tax revenue would be hardest hit as a consequence of making the wrong choices right?