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13 hours ago, Et3rnity_fr said:

So, in a team based game you all want to play solo ?
And if some people make start to play together, it's bad ?

 

What a wonderfull day to be alive.

If this version of brawls was for teams, it should’ve been set for teams only. Why allow solo players in it? So only the teams can have fun? 
 

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19 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

Since my "team" died within minutes I seriousy doubt that they were "people with better performance in brawl vs the division"... :Smile-angry:

 

Also... FULL 9-man DIV vs. 9 random players is NOT fun in any way - I can't believe that MM was unable to get at least 1-2 smaller DIVs on our side as well! :Smile_izmena:

 

 

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It will always try to match divisions. It seems though that there weren't any available at the time though.

 

19 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

I think you have to agree this new brawl is a Total Failure (even though they had a Full Clan on Coms with Higher WR and Higher Ship WR we somehow managed a win), come on WG get it sorted, postpone it now till you have something that can be  called a BRAWL. @Seraphice

 

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I will try to provide some additional context for this brawl.
The brawl was initially shaped with King of the Sea in mind. However due to certain complications we chose to postpone King of the Sea itself.
However it mainly retained a similar format, though with certain differences (CVs in Brawl #1 and 4 BBs in brawl #2). This brawl was more geared towards the initial format that was brawls - Clan brawls.
Previously it was only possible to play within a div and with clanmates + mercs in brawls. However later this was removed and brawls were able to be entered by all players regardless of any div or clan restrictions.

This brawl was focused more on this original format, focused on divs and the idea of "clan brawls" and as part of the originally planned King of the Sea tournament, which was replaced with Warships Spring Championship due to the postponement of KotS.
So in the end, the brawl is more supposed to be played in divisions rather than alone. Sometimes things are geared more towards certain parts or playstyles, and it will not appeal to every type of player.
 

19 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

Just to clarify the Team WR  (reds) 58.77%, Ship WR 68.6%, our team WR 54.9% & ship WR 53.12%

 

Unable to understand Why I lost a Karma point in this Battle?????????

The matchmaking does not factor in account or ship winrate from randoms, ranked, coop etc.
Only the performance of the previous and current brawls.
 

 

18 hours ago, hellhound666 said:

proof?

btw, im still waiting response in the other thread ...

I am not sure what kind of proof you are looking for here.
If you could point me to the other thread I can answer there. Perhaps I missed it.

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Hi all,

 

4 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

It will always try to match divisions. It seems though that there weren't any available at the time though.

 

 

How do you explain this for example then?

 

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Both smaller than 9-man DIVs (A = 3, B = 5) are on ONE side... :Smile_hiding:

 

 

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Just now, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

How do you explain this for example then?

 

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Both smaller than 9-man DIVs (A = 3, B = 5) are on ONE side... :Smile_hiding:

 

 

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This indeed seems like an odd case... I will go and check internally what may be happening here.

Thanks for bringing it up

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40 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

This brawl was focused more on this original format, focused on divs and the idea of "clan brawls" and as part of the originally planned King of the Sea tournament, which was replaced with Warships Spring Championship due to the postponement of KotS.
So in the end, the brawl is more supposed to be played in divisions rather than alone.

So either allow ONLY full divs, or no divs, or equal amounts of divs. But do not allow 9-man divs against no-div teams. The latter ENSURES steamrolls.

And regardless, now they just feel like 9-man Randoms anyway...

 

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Hi all,

 

4 hours ago, Seraphice said:

This indeed seems like an odd case... I will go and check internally what may be happening here.

Thanks for bringing it up

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It is happening all the time - must be MM bug!

 

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Simple solution. If you don't have a few friends ready to go with you do not play 9 ppl brawls. Anyway, what's is a difference between landslide in randoms vs in a brawls? Both are equally frustrating. Also even in 3vs3 playing solo could end in the same :etc_swear: experience with glue eaters in your team vs division. At least we can play with more then 3 lads in a division out of CB season. It's MMO not a single player campa8n.

 

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3 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

It is happening all the time - must be MM bug!

I can confirm. I played 2 battles and everytime the divs were on one side. The other.

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Am 9.5.2022 um 14:59, Verblonde sagte:

Hang on; for the slow kids who weren't paying attention - you can have an entire team that consists of one division, and have that unified division (potentially with voice comms) facing a random collection of non-divisioned farties?!

 

That strikes me as an extraordinarily poor design choice...?

Just imagine everybody would enable in game voice com and even random team mates could talk with each other.

Settings -> Audio

How awesome were that?

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On 5/9/2022 at 2:43 PM, Aragathor said:

So a 9 man seal clubber division has more rights to fun than a solo player?

There is a reason it is called "CLAN" brawls. Unless you are a one-man-clan... :cap_wander:

You are taking a knife to a gunfight mate. That is never gonna be much fun. 

 

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9 hours ago, Johnny_Moneto said:

Just imagine everybody would enable in game voice com and even random team mates could talk with each other.

Settings -> Audio

How awesome were that?

Isn't voicechat restricted to division members only? I have never used it nor divisioned, so I'm just guessing.

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20 hours ago, Lootboxer said:

Simple solution. If you don't have a few friends ready to go with you do not play 9 ppl brawls. Anyway, what's is a difference between landslide in randoms vs in a brawls? Both are equally frustrating. Also even in 3vs3 playing solo could end in the same :etc_swear: experience with glue eaters in your team vs division. At least we can play with more then 3 lads in a division out of CB season. It's MMO not a single player campa8n.

 

THIS, really. 

 

And may I remind that my clan (and many others) are still hiring? 

Why do you guys all think many clans are seeking active members? 

 

Basically, if you enter a team-based mode alone, well, it is not gonna end well for you

You are meeting the local soccer team - and while they may suck, they'll still wipe the floor with you. 

That said, we also lost a few against random teams because: "there is such a thing as too much meme". :Smile_teethhappy:

 

That said: I'd prefer 6vs6 at T6-8. But hey. It is still fun to play with buddies, have a rant, and get some XP/credits.

FYI we created a discord channel especially for it. You're welcome to join. 

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47 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

There is a reason it is called "CLAN" brawls. Unless you are a one-man-clan... :cap_wander:

You are taking a knife to a gunfight mate. That is never gonna be much fun. 

 

They aren't called clan brawls in the article.

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/brawls-in-0113-round-2/

 

From the article:

 

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You can participate in a Division, and you don't need to be a member of a Clan.

 

But nice mental gymnastics you are showing here.

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1 hour ago, Aragathor said:

But nice mental gymnastics you are showing here.

Not at all mate, I wrote "CLAN"... noted the "" <---

 

Still no matter - if you enter a team based event without a team, you are likely to get your butt kicked.

Join up, get in a clan, or at least make sure you have a place to gather.

I have one on discord but not sure if I am allowed to post an invite here @Seraphice ? :Smile_Default:

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Hi all,

 

@Seraphice

 

Here is latest "succes" of MM - 4 (four) small DIVs on ONE side - the other side got NONE... :Smile-angry:

 

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On 5/10/2022 at 11:11 AM, PsychoClownfish said:

So either allow ONLY full divs, or no divs, or equal amounts of divs. But do not allow 9-man divs against no-div teams. The latter ENSURES steamrolls.

And regardless, now they just feel like 9-man Randoms anyway...

 

It is definitely something to consider.
 

 

On 5/10/2022 at 11:53 AM, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

@Seraphice

 

It is happening all the time - must be MM bug!

 

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So, it seems, it is only 9 man divisions that will more often be matched with other divisions.
 

 

5 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Not at all mate, I wrote "CLAN"... noted the "" <---

 

Still no matter - if you enter a team based event without a team, you are likely to get your butt kicked.

Join up, get in a clan, or at least make sure you have a place to gather.

I have one on discord but not sure if I am allowed to post an invite here @Seraphice ? :Smile_Default:

I'll allow it this time ;)
 

 

3 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

@Seraphice

 

Here is latest "succes" of MM - 4 (four) small DIVs on ONE side - the other side got NONE... :Smile-angry:

 

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If you encounter more of such examples, do not hesitate to keep sending them to me! This really helps.

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47 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

I'll allow it this time ;)

Alrighty then... probably gonna be a mess in discord, but we'll see:

https://discord.gg/JzyEUxev

 

HERE YE HERE YEEEE if you cannot get a buddy, try here. 

Opened up a channel so peeps can get together and play brawls. 

Do not be alone! Div up! In great masses!! :cap_like:

 

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5 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said:

Which is also fun when there are three caps and one team has 4 destroyers and the other only 1..

We won that multiple times... if you have less DDs, then you have more cruisers. 
Just make sure you prioritize murdering them.

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They are not fun and the rewards are lackluster and a grind, bit of a flop if you ask me.

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4 minutes ago, Matty814 said:

They are not fun and the rewards are lackluster and a grind, bit of a flop if you ask me.

They are an automatic click-in division... LOL :Smile_trollface:

I think it is hilarious, how many times do you get the chance to take 5x Smolly and 4x Conq?

Granted - it is no fun if you enter ALONE. But for Clans... hell yeah.

And then you meet a team that brought 4x Lenin and 5x Stalin...  :Smile_teethhappy:

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1 hour ago, Seraphice said:

If you encounter more of such examples, do not hesitate to keep sending them to me! This really helps.

 

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Hi all,

 

1 hour ago, Seraphice said:

If you encounter more of such examples, do not hesitate to keep sending them to me! This really helps.


Fair seas captain!
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Another abomination:

 

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