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[Karasu_Browarszky]

4 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

Buddha didn't exist

 

4 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

and you don't exists as well

 

4 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

and the "message of Buddha" was a claccical non-dualistic message but not the neo/extreme non-dualism.

 

 

'Extreme non-dualism' means running around in circles... isn't that what we are doing. I'm not Charles, either, though.. nor am I an AI algorithm....

 

4 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

So, by the extreme/ultimate "level" the Buddha never existed and there are no teachings to achieve such level. The extreme approach is that because nothing exists so the techings also don't work because there is nowhere to lead/teach because nothing exists. But more classical message talks about ca 10 steps where as you describe the middle steps are challenging. They are challenging because of the quantity because one must go through al lhis history. This is a big effort like looking 30 books' pages every day. There is no guarantee that such middle levels guide to somewhere but sometimes they do and the idea is that after you have gone through all the apsect that ever caused sufferings you don't have left anymore anything in your history/present that causes the suffering. It is like first day you don't suffer about the Subs, on the day 28 you don't suffer about historical Stats, and finally you don't suffer about anything in the entertainment sector. It takes a big quantity of effort to go and middle steps i nthe classical approach have proven to be successful in that. The radical extreme approach is little bit like the elevator example earlier but it takes too much time to explain to level minus 2 people such offtopical thing.

 

All that trouble just to become nothing? I think I can manage that a lot more easily, though, I am friendly towards buddhism but not as a religion.

[Macross_]

38 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

你能找到承诺的地方吗？

目前它似乎在 26 左右，这太慢了。

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/322

The news comes from this, but I hope it's a joke. 38kt, sub speed is faster than many destroyers.

[lup3s]

5 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

 

Are you enlightened yet ?

[Shirakami_Kon]

13 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

Buddha didn't exist and you don't exist

 

@Karasu_Hidesuke F. You will be missed. I'll always remember you.

[Cammo1962]

7 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

 

 

 

'Extreme non-dualism' means running around in circles... isn't that what we are doing. I'm not Charles, either, though.. nor am I an AI algorithm....

 

 

All that trouble just to become nothing? I think I can manage that a lot more easily, though, I am friendly towards buddhism but not as a religion.

RIP @Karasu_Hidesuke you are already missed in here so here i a little shanty for you 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

42 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

That sounds the same that nobody eat pork and dares to use the word War in some countries.

Also it proves that the league has one and only allowed opinion and mindset.

 

Can you try to prove that the number 73 proves anything i nthe Universe?

No its simply reading the room. Your posts are infected by almost every garbage argumental fallacy imaginable, its insane really. We have 25 pages of nonsense to thank you for. Nothing much else.

[Sunleader]

Bot Technology really Improved tough.

You barely can tell the Difference between a Bot and a Potato Players these Days.

 

[Fastmotion]

25 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

All that trouble just to become nothing? I think I can manage that a lot more easily, though, I am friendly towards buddhism but not as a religion.

The answer to your first sentence is Yes but needs an explanation before you understand. Firstly it is a widely accepted that the non-dualistic message is not logical and comprehended my knowledge and human minds. It is like humans don't understand Quantum Physics but even more difficult to understand. The answer to your typical question "All that trouble just to become nothing?" is that there practically in most cases it seems to involve trouble but that is the price of the freedom. Theoretically, not many practical examples by today, there are some examples with less hassle/trouble but very rarely. The price for freedeom and non-suffering is nowadays still quite big. But your understanding of the word Nothing is not the end result. The end results is not something that your mind or einstein's mind can comprehend. The end result is a big thing and it is priceless. Not only is it knowing the truth but also suffer-free. Millions try to achieve such paradise every day.

Later you talk what you can do. but the non-delusional truth is that the You don't exists and that is the step 1 level to "undersnand". After you realize that you are illusion then lost of pain goes imemdiately away. Because there is nobody/no-thing who can fee lthe pain anymore. It is not boring or empty or anything, it is actually more advanced. for exampel the term "non-conditional love" become clear once you don't exists anymore and nothing else exists including any conditions- there is only love and nothing else and no conditions. But it is not possible to understand that message entirely by brain/knowlede.

 

I can suggest first my suggestions that practice arguemnting. Secondly when you feel more stable go and listen the message fro mthe internet and see if something resonates to the message. And no doupt you get a wrthy reward if you are lucky at the end.

 

The funny thing with your englis is that you accidentally used the word Nothing but that is a special term. You can say that all there is, is only Nothing, and nothing else, but also at the same time everything. something like quantum ideas. All and nothing exists and anything else, no you, no subs, no suffering. So, you accidentally phrased corectly that appeareantly you will acvieve nothingness. You get nothing/Nothing and at the same time you get Everything. So, maybe the message resonates wel lwith you, go and google.

 

It is an offtopical thing but as i suggested first steps could be to learn to discuss and get rid of some delusions and some suffereings.

[Cammo1962]

1 minute ago, Sunleader said:

Bot Technology really Improved tough.

You barely can tell the Difference between a Bot and a Potato Players these Days.

 

Dang @Sunleader am i so bad ?? But i promise i will try and improve myself i swear to the something in the fluffy pink sky 

[Tanaka_15]

I feel im geting more retarded with each page of this topic. 

[Shirakami_Kon]

Just now, Tanaka_15 said:

I feel im geting more retarded with each page of this topic. 

Welcome to the club, brother.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

7 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

The answer to your first sentence is Yes but needs an explanation before you understand. Firstly it is a widely accepted that the non-dualistic message is not logical and comprehended my knowledge and human minds. It is like humans don't understand Quantum Physics but even more difficult to understand. The answer to your typical question "All that trouble just to become nothing?" is that there practically in most cases it seems to involve trouble but that is the price of the freedom. Theoretically, not many practical examples by today, there are some examples with less hassle/trouble but very rarely. The price for freedeom and non-suffering is nowadays still quite big. But your understanding of the word Nothing is not the end result. The end results is not something that your mind or einstein's mind can comprehend. The end result is a big thing and it is priceless. Not only is it knowing the truth but also suffer-free. Millions try to achieve such paradise every day.

Later you talk what you can do. but the non-delusional truth is that the You don't exists and that is the step 1 level to "undersnand". After you realize that you are illusion then lost of pain goes imemdiately away. Because there is nobody/no-thing who can fee lthe pain anymore. It is not boring or empty or anything, it is actually more advanced. for exampel the term "non-conditional love" becaused clear ones you don't exists anymore and nothing else exists including any conditions. But it is not possible to understand that message entirely by brain/knowlede.

 

I can suggest first my suggestions that practice arguemnting. Secondly when you feel more stable go and listen the message fro mthe internet and see if something resonates to the message. And no doupt you get a wrthy reward if you are lucky at the end.

 

The funny thing with your englis is that you accidentally used the word Nothing but that is a special term. You can say that there is Nothing. all and nothing exists and anything else. So, you accidentally phrased corectly that appeareant you will acvieve nothingness. You get nothing/Nothing and at the same time you get Everything. So, maybe the message resonates wel lwith you, go and google.

 

I will need to look into nothing.

[Cammo1962]

3 minutes ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

Welcome to the club, brother.

Amen 

[Fastmotion]

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

I will need to look into nothing.

sounds quite reasonable.

but fisrt step proves you that there is nobody who needs to look anywhere and nobody exists at all. After that you feel that there is no suffering because there is nobody anymore who suffers.

Because the ultimate truth says that nothing exists and you are an illusional dream then there are really no particles and things and nothing to achieve and therefore al lteachings including Buddha's are said to be wrong. Al lteaching are wrong because they are dualistic and try to lead to some point. But no point exists.

[NewHorizons_1]

27 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Existential crisis yet?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, Fastmotion said:

sounds quite reasonable.

but fisrt step proves you that there is nobody who needs to look anywhere and nobody exists at all. After that you feel that there is no suffering because there is nobody anymore who suffers.

Because the ultimate truth says that nothing exists and you are an illusional dream then there are really no particles and things and nothing to achieve and therefore al lteachings including Buddha's are said to be wrong. Al lteaching are wrong because they are dualistic and try to lead to some point. But no point exists.

 

Logically, then, what you are saying is also false and has no point.

[NewHorizons_1]

11 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

I feel im geting more retarded with each page of this topic. 

Kinda feel sorry for the OP.

This thread deffo needs a health warning on it.

"If you value your IQ, be somewhere else"

 

[Terence321]

Vor 3 Minuten, Karasu_Hidesuke sagte:

 

Logically, then, what you are saying is also false and has no point.

I am genuinely curious how his mind will twist that into him being the exception.

[Shirakami_Kon]

I honestly can't believe someone like him can live without supervision, so who the hell left him out? 

[Sunleader]

19 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

I feel im geting more retarded with each page of this topic. 

 

I am just Impressed the Mods didnt Nuke it yet.

 

I mean seriously.

At this point even trying to post something on topic seems offtopic because the topic has not been the topic for 20 or so pages now....

 

[Shirakami_Kon]

1 minute ago, Sunleader said:

 

I am just Impressed the Mods didnt Nuke it yet.

 

I mean seriously.

At this point even trying to post something on topic seems offtopic because the topic has not been the topic for 20 or so pages now....

 

I was asking myself that yesterday. At this point I believe they are laughing their [edited]off and losing it like us too. 

[Fastmotion]

32 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Logically, then, what you are saying is also false and has no point.

True in the whole i guess, let's see.

Firstly what i said you can hear from Youtube if you search by the phrase non-dualism. So you can go ask/argue buddha and many Youtubers about the same things that i say.

Secondly, you are right that there is no point and no thing: there is no you, no me, no points, no space, no time, no anything. So it is true that actually nothing exists and no points actually exists but they Appear sometimes. The term "appear" is the second term beside the Nothing that requires more than human brain can comprehend. The idea is that things appear to exists and at the same time they don't really exist. Like in your lucid dream that happenings don't really exist but they appear there. The same is with the everyday "awaken" state that things Appear, including some points and thoughts, and apples. They appear but at the same time they don't exist. Similar to Quantum ideas where thing both exist and don't exist at the same time. So, you said that there is no points and no truth what i say and ultimately it is the truth- nothing exists. But more correct is to add 1 more mindblowing addon and say that not olny Nothing exists bu also everything exists at the same time. "All there is- is no thing, nothing, which also is everything".

So, i lied like buddha and all other teachings because there is no endpoint that teaching tell you to achieve. No end point, no point, no You, no nothing. There is no concepts and not truth and the mystical message doesn't have any porpose. It is empty and everything and paradise at the same time.

So, in a way "you" are right that there is nothing true i say and nothing true exists and nothing exists at all and you text doesn't exists either. Here comes the mindblowing term appearing that you text appears but it doesn't exist.

 

As i told there the message is beyond the logics similarly like Quantum ideas are beyond.

 

To make my post more intopical, i suggest first to just think how you can remove your attachemnt/identity from computer games. And argumenting clears up thing/delusions which fades sufferings little bit.

 

[SV_Kompresor]

Yo @Stiglet3 did you get your money's worth out of your first thread?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

13 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

True in the whole i guess, let's see.

Firstly what i said you can hear from Youtube if you search by the phrase non-dualism. So you can go ask/argue buddha and many Youtubers about the same things that i say.

Secondly, you are right that there is no point and no thing: there is no you, no me, no points, no space, no time, no anything. So it is true that actually nothing exists and no points actually exists but they Appear sometimes. The term "appear" is the second term beside the Nothing that requires more than human brain can comprehend. The idea is that things appear to exists and at the same time they don't really exist. Like in your lucid dream that happenings don't really exist but they appear there. The same is with the everyday "awaken" state that things Appear, including some points and thoughts, and apples. They appear but at the same time they don't exist. Similar to Quantum ideas where thing both exist and don't exist at the same time. So, you said that there is no points and no truth what i say and ultimately it is the truth- nothing exists. But more correct is to add 1 more mindblowing addon and say that not olny Nothing exists bu also everything exists at the same time. "All there is no thing, nothing, which also has everything".

So, i lied like buddha and all other teachings because there is no endpoint that teaching tell you to achieve. No end point, no point, no You, no nothing. There is no concepts and not truth and the mystical message doesn't have any porpose. It is empty and everything and paradise at the same time.

So, in a way "you" are right that there is nothing true i say and nothing true exists and nothing exists at all and you text doesn't exists either. Here comes the mindblowing term appearing that you text appears but it doesn't exist.

 

As i told there the message is beyond the logics similarly like Quantum ideas are beyond.

 

To make my post moreintopical, i suggest first to just think how you can remove your attachemnt/identity from computer games. And argumenting clears up thing/delusions which fades sufferings little bit.

 

 

Most of what you saying is pure physics, or at least, our understanding of physics which may be true or false. Philosophically speaking, if we assume this to be both true and false, concepts like true and false will also become meaningless.

 

Yet, as persons we attach particular meanings to them based on our interpretations. Within the illusion itself, which we cannot truly - or falsely - escape, all of this seems real and tangible. So, of course, is the suffering, same as pleasure. Both being part of the same continuum.

 

Where does that leave as with the topic? Yes, I can end the suffering by hitting ALT +F4 and quitting the game. Do I want to do that, though? I have my own illusions about this game, and I've grown very attached to them. What that means is that they also have a meaning for me, personally, which means that they now form a part of my 'self'. This 'self' is at odds with the direction WG is taking this game which leaves me, and many others, extremely unhappy.

 

Are we wrong? Are we right? No-one who is part of the illusion that is our concept of reality can actually answer that.

[Nibenay78]

44 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

You can say that all there is, is only Nothing, and nothing else

I have been enlightened. I now know a region in timespace where there is only nothing...