Remove Submarines

[Fastmotion]

2 minutes ago, Cammo1962 said:

This firm here gives a s..t with you when it comes to the end it has only one end game money so in the end they give a crap about you trust me, and i am not suffering i am having a blast of a laugh on your exspence

You didn't comment anything about the facts: the haters league is inadequate and fails even warmup arguments. So you if a murderer with bloody hands ignores questions like "did you visit the victims house yesterday 5p?" by totally being silent or answering inadequately like "today is a sunny day" then in universe such murderer is declared to be guilty. The same here, your league failed all arguments by either being silent or replying with not a valid answer.

 

After we have proved many ways that you are in adequate then why do you provide opinions like now that WG doesn't care and so on. All those opinions have been proved to be wrong and that must be some kind of anxiety or suffering if you still want my answer to those opinions. As i proved earlier then haters suffer even on the battles when peopel don't reply to them and many other ways. And the main source of their suffer comes that WG, me, Sub players and adequate people just ignore their requests.

 

If you want to end the suffering then you must realize that your arguments are not valid and there is no need to change anything. There is no problem with Subs. But you must pass at least simple warmup questions like "do you agree that you spam-yes or no?". After you pass such exam question then there is a hope for enlightening and that you might pass the argument 1/20 as well. At the end of 20 arguments the suffering goes away.

[Fastmotion]

Just now, ghostbuster_ said:

But but but you failed to pass his warmup exam and you dont have proof he has proof and defeated all of us with his arguments.

 

Can you prove where did i failed that exam? No you can't show such place. That proves again and again that your league's statements are not valid.

[ghostbuster_]

3 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

Can you prove where did i failed that exam? No you can't show such place. That proves again and again that your league's statements are not valid.

You cant even read.  look whom I told this. 

You are golden. Keep going, maybe you can get your own meme seal on forum.

 

I mean I kinda understand tho. You should have thought after you saw the picture, that it was directed at you. Its a good sign. You are starting to get the image you have been drawing here on forum.

[Cammo1962]

9 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

You opinions have no evidence but all mine has a strong proof. I can for example say that in your post here there is no example where my arguments where debunked. But i can give you here easily plentyu of examples where people don't even anser to my warmup question and have no skills to answer the argument number 1. We can copy paste peoples answers here to warmup question if you don't believe.

Well lets see again i have been serving in the military for almost 43 years and do know a thing or two about how life is and people have been giving you proof after proof that all your arguments wrong and still YOU insist keep on going with your misguided arguments and i have to say even the most stupidest child/person would have realized when to quit and stop, but you still keep on going like a recordplayer caught in the same track.

[Cammo1962]

8 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

You didn't comment anything about the facts: the haters league is inadequate and fails even warmup arguments. So you if a murderer with bloody hands ignores questions like "did you visit the victims house yesterday 5p?" by totally being silent or answering inadequately like "today is a sunny day" then in universe such murderer is declared to be guilty. The same here, your league failed all arguments by either being silent or replying with not a valid answer.

 

After we have proved many ways that you are in adequate then why do you provide opinions like now that WG doesn't care and so on. All those opinions have been proved to be wrong and that must be some kind of anxiety or suffering if you still want my answer to those opinions. As i proved earlier then haters suffer even on the battles when peopel don't reply to them and many other ways. And the main source of their suffer comes that WG, me, Sub players and adequate people just ignore their requests.

 

If you want to end the suffering then you must realize that your arguments are not valid and there is no need to change anything. There is no problem with Subs. But you must pass at least simple warmup questions like "do you agree that you spam-yes or no?". After you pass such exam question then there is a hope for enlightening and that you might pass the argument 1/20 as well. At the end of 20 arguments the suffering goes away.

Oh i have answered many of times but you have been so diluted into your own little pink and fluffy world that you cant see it

Who are we ?? because i only see YOU

[Cammo1962]

13 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said:

But but but you failed to pass his warmup exam and you dont have proof he has proof and defeated all of us with his arguments.

 

Me like putting square things into round holes 

[Fastmotion]

10 minutes ago, Cammo1962 said:

Oh i have answered many of times but you have been so diluted into your own little pink and fluffy world that you cant see it

Who are we ?? because i only see YOU

So, let's look the questions ans replies.

 

A warmup exam qualification question:

10 hours ago, Fastmotion said:

you agree that this topic has fro mthe haters league too many spam like unnecessary pictures and naming others with different words like Torlls and so on. You agree that this noise is not needed and i would remove that from my forum so we could have clear talk with no images at all. Do you agree with me on that?

 

You can rephrase the question to be shorter as we did earlier, like this: do you agree that the haters league spams?

Yes or no.

Can you show your league's valid answer to that warmup question?

 

And the trial argument 1/20 asked what is your opinion about the brothers account example. Can you show your league's answers for that?

 

[Cammo1962]

1 minute ago, Fastmotion said:

So, let's look the questions ans replies.

 

A warmup exam qualification question:

 

You can rephrase the question to be shorter as we did earlier, like this: do you agree that the haters league spams?

Yes or no.

Can you show your league's valid answer to that warmup question?

 

1: No

2: Yes i can but you can just go back and read them yourself i am not doing you work.

[Fastmotion]

9 hours ago, Shirakami_Kon said:

Why does it matter if the cause is brothers or any other of the list of causes you mentioned? Even to different brothers eventually improve at the game getting better stats over time. That doesn't seem a likely cause of yours though.

 

My answer is no. And the answer to stats matter is yes. To put it in a language you understand, WG constantly balances ships and mechanics bases on performance stats. Take for example the nerfs to San Diego in development because WG doesn't like her performance stats, deeming them too much. Another example is Petropavlosk performance stats and popularity and presence in every single tournament or ranked season that they nerfed it based on that. WG has explained many times how they balance the game on a spreadsheet of data and stats they gathered, so there you go. WG explained to everyone how stats matter a lot to them, so much as to balance the game around said stats. Apparently they disagree with you about stats being irrelevant to a core development level of the game you might even say.

 

How about you play the goddamn game and find yourself? Maybe a little more of actually playing, learning, aquiring play experience and playing attention to WG's development devblogs would have iluminated the emptiness in your skull about how WG's intended main defense system against submarine pings is DCP, same as fire, floodings, and emergency module repairs. That certainly allows to manage dealing with a single submarine targetting you with pings and waste his time somewhat effectively (in a void, not accounting by other factors like being targetted by other ships and needing to repair fires, floods, etc). However, one of the major current issues with submarines is that WG allows double submarine divisions, where two submarine players can coordinate to focus on individual ships at the same time, with one submarine striking first, causing the usage of the given "measures" against it, forcing DCP use, only for the second submarine ping and strike you immediately after DCP runs out followed by the first submarine too as soon as it reloads torpedos again, so how useful is DCP in that scenario? Completely useless. Which brings a very close resemblance of why WG removed double CV division that would focus an take out ships one by one eliminating any form of intendended counterplay that still kinda worked against an individual one. But guess this basic element escapes your level of basic comprehension of the basics of the game. So there, hope the explanation is properly dumbed down for your understanding.

 

As explained previously, no, I don't agree. 

 

Can you say in short way why you don't agree with the brothers example argument? does it mean that you think that their account shows somehow reasonable stats after getting a low XP for tactical efforts and sharing account and having bad internet and other factors? Explain what those stats would prove or show? Do they prove that people get lot of experience in battles? No, because the tactical effort is not included into the stats as someone demonstrated. Does the account show how well one brother playes? no, because he playes well when laptop has a good internet. So, what useful can you see from those stats then?

[Fastmotion]

7 minutes ago, Cammo1962 said:

1: No

2: Yes i can but you can just go back and read them yourself i am not doing you work.

So, you say that your party don't spam but how do you call those spam images in this topic?

I already looked and didn't see any adequate answer for any of my arguments. Also your answer No for the warmup question has to be explained first.

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Sorry, guys, I kind of lost track of what you are all discussing here.

[Cammo1962]

4 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

So, you say that your party don't spam but how do you call those spam images in this topic?

I already looked and didn't see any adequate answer for any of my arguments. Also your answer No for the warmup question has to be explained first.

 

1: Yes i do say that and it is not spam.

2: So you make up the rules as you go and when it is not going your way and my no does not need to be explained it is clear as crystal that no.

[HMS_Britannia]

2 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Sorry, guys, I kind of lost track of what you are all discussing here.

We are keeping the troll in this thread so it can’t go into other ones.

but in short the troll thinks cv and subs are fine and will not listen to anything other than this and proceeds to alter and twist what people say to try and suit it’s own narrative 

[Fastmotion]

12 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said:

Good god man wtf.

 

 

For example that image is considered to be irrelevant spam. Any such picture cannot support any argument and just misleads and makes the picture poster inadequate.

WG, me, science, Sub players, court, world, etc, they all agree that such spam images equals the loss in the argumentation. Or do you think that WG should see that image and start to remove subs? No, they won't and they won't listen any of your arguments anymore. Should sub players change their mind after seeing spam images? No, because images are irrelevant.

[Cammo1962]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Sorry, guys, I kind of lost track of what you are all discussing here.

Human rights ect. ect. ect. ect you have the picture now right ?? 

[LABRAT_1UK]

i think some one likes subs and he's getting slag off for it maybe  

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, Cammo1962 said:

Human rights ect. ect. ect. ect you have the picture now right ?? 

Oh okay.. so like subs are people too?

[Cammo1962]

Just now, Fastmotion said:

 

For example that image is considered to be irrelevant spam. Any such picture cannot support any argument and just misleads and makes the picture poster inadequate.

WG, me, science, Sub players, court, world, etc, they all agree that such spam images equals the loss in the argumentation. Or do you think that WG should see that image and start to remove subs? No, they won't and they won't listen any of your arguments anymore. Should sub players change their mind after seeing spam images? No, because images are irrelevant.

YOU keep on going with this sentence why not just say you because it is you it is all about and yes images is relevant because they shows peoples feelings but that is beside your grasp

[Cammo1962]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Oh okay.. so like subs are people too?

Yup 

[Fastmotion]

1 minute ago, Cammo1962 said:

1: Yes i do say that and it is not spam.

 

Explain how such images prove any arguments?

Most of the world calls such images spam and sees them as noise and irrelevant.

 

We cannot procede if your believes are that argumentation should include spam. So, i suggest that you obtain widely known argumentation skills and then you are ready for the warmuyp question and 20 arguments. Until that you don't qualify and nobody agrees with you do do any argumentation. So, you should not adress me and ask and feel suffer.

The suffer goes away so:

 

1. Obtain argumentation skills.

2. Pass the warmup arguments.

3. Find a forum and guru who agrees to go through 20 arguments.

4. Realize that there is no probelm with Subs and therefore no need to suffer anymore.

5. Suffering ends.

[Cammo1962]

8 minutes ago, HMS_Britannia said:

We are keeping the troll in this thread so it can’t go into other ones.

but in short the troll thinks cv and subs are fine and will not listen to anything other than this and proceeds to alter and twist what people say to try and suit it’s own narrative 

Hey hey @HMS_Britannia dont be so rational 

[Sunleader]

3 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

 

For example that image is considered to be irrelevant spam. Any such picture cannot support any argument and just misleads and makes the picture poster inadequate.

WG, me, science, Sub players, court, world, etc, they all agree that such spam images equals the loss in the argumentation. Or do you think that WG should see that image and start to remove subs? No, they won't and they won't listen any of your arguments anymore. Should sub players change their mind after seeing spam images? No, because images are irrelevant.

 

Not sure you get this.

But when someone Posts such a Picture. It usually means he does not consider your Claim to even be worth having a Argument over.

As such he does not really care if you consider him inadequate or consider him losing an Argument. Because your Claim is so oviously wrong that there simply is no need to have any kind of argument or discussion about it.

 

And well. Not to Offend ya. But he is right lol.

Your Statement that CVs are Working well within the Game is so Incredible Wrong and Stupid that seriously. Having an Argument over it would be a Complete Waste of time lol.

I would take Claims on Earth being Flat more Seriously than your Claim that CVs are working well within the Game.

 

Which means his Picture is Perfectly Adequate as a Response to your Post.

 

 

[Fastmotion]

2 minutes ago, Cammo1962 said:

YOU keep on going with this sentence why not just say you because it is you it is all about and yes images is relevant because they shows peoples feelings but that is beside your grasp

Most adequate people call spam images inappropriate and with a simple word "spam". I asked you very clearly to explain how those images are not spam and how they are useful and you again couldn't provide a valid answer. so, you failed the warmup question.

[Cammo1962]

8 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

Explain how such images prove any arguments?

Most of the world calls such images spam and sees them as noise and irrelevant.

 

We cannot procede if your believes are that argumentation should include spam. So, i suggest that you obtain widely known argumentation skills and then you are ready for the warmuyp question and 20 arguments. Until that you don't qualify and nobody agrees with you do do any argumentation. So, you should not adress me and ask and feel suffer.

The suffer goes away so:

 

1. Obtain argumentation skills.

2. Pass the warmup arguments.

3. Find a forum and guru who agrees to go through 20 arguments.

4. Realize that there is no probelm with Subs and therefore no need to suffer anymore.

5. Suffering ends.

1: Have that already but you dont 

2: Done that too you did not

3: I have one here you dont

4: No because there is a problem with subs and this you cant get into your thick skull

5: I dont suffer you do 

So on total I pass you failed ups 

 

[Cammo1962]

3 minutes ago, Fastmotion said:

Most adequate people call spam images inappropriate and with a simple word "spam". I asked you very clearly to explain how those images are not spam and how they are useful and you again couldn't provide a valid answer. so, you failed the warmup question.

So when people uses images to show what they mean or to show feelings about it it is spam ?? Wauw you just failed the warmup