cruiser lines

[hellraiser37]

I want to start playing cruisers but dont know which line to start with. I have the ships i play favourited

[invicta2012]

it depends, really. What do you *like* about those ships? Where do you want to play them? 

 

The Japanese ones are probably the most consistent - probably a little too consistent after a while - but from Tier V (where other lines get squishy) are quite strong and well-armoured, provided you avoid showing broadsides. 

 

American ones are gun boats, quite short ranged, but with high gun arcs for firing over islands. CLs have more damage potential, CAs are more survivable.

 

German ones get very squishy at Tier V and VI but have good guns and lots of torps. The best cruiser line for PvE, in my opinion. 

 

Russian ones get really good gun range but are very squishy until you get to Tier IX and X, when they become SuperStronk. 

 

Don't over look the French and the British, either - the French one are speedy and versatile, the British CLs are squishy (but do a lot of damage) and the CAs quite strong.

 

 

[johncl]

You should get out of your head about playing lines ...Rather look at the ships that are good and go for them ..

 

Example Furutaka is the jap T5 ..and the highlight of the line ..No need to go past it 

Next up Baltimore US T8 ...before and after are just not as good tier for tier ..(T10 is very nice) 

Next up Fiji ...T7 British is by far the best ship in the line ..

 

 

[arczer25]

honestly its pretty hard to chose, every line offers their own quirks and play styles, like invicta2012 said its good to focus on what you and from the line.

 

25 minutes ago, johncl said:

Example Furutaka is the jap T5 ..and the highlight of the line ..No need to go past it

Mogami and Myoko (assuming you can stand bad firing angles) are still good picks, though with no real utility outside of Hydro.

28 minutes ago, johncl said:

Next up Baltimore US T8 ...before and after are just not as good tier for tier ..(T10 is very nice)

only real slacker is New Orleans with just lacking, Pensacola is a pretty strong ship tier for tier as long its played right. (25mm plating allowing to autobounce 356mm guns with are plentiful at this tier and resistance to Destroyer HE combined with improved AP that's just smashing things at these tiers)
Buffalo might be odd one but its still good if you're used to it.

[johncl]

1 hour ago, arczer25 said:

Mogami and Myoko (assuming you can stand bad firing angles) are still good picks, though with no real utility outside of Hydro.

Both very average IMO ..

 

1 hour ago, arczer25 said:

only real slacker is New Orleans with just lacking, Pensacola is a pretty strong ship tier for tier as long its played right. (25mm plating allowing to autobounce 356mm guns with are plentiful at this tier and resistance to Destroyer HE combined with improved AP that's just smashing things at these tiers)
Buffalo might be odd one but its still good if you're used to it.

Pensa ...Oh my Enough armour to arm most BB AP ...These things go pop like balloons ...I agree with what you say ..can be powerful for T6 ..I sold her twice ..

 

I would never sell Baltimore 

[johncl]

Just now, johncl said:

only real slacker is New Orleans

Oh 1 more thing Buffalo ....Errr Slack !!

[HMS_Kilinowski]

On 5/8/2022 at 1:23 PM, hellraiser37 said:

I want to start playing cruisers but dont know which line to start with. I have the ships i play favourited

 

You don't have enough games in different ships to make any recommendations based on that. The basic thing to find out is, whether you are good at positioning, kiting or tanking. This is not a complete list of play styles, just examples.

An issue I had when I was still inexperienced in the game, was that I played all ships in a similar style, when in fact many of them require a unique play style or at least one, different from what your instincts tell you.

So what ever line you choose, you need to show an interest in what the line can do and how it's played. You need to watch replays and reviews.

 

If you want a hard start, I'd recommend playing US cruisers or RN-CLs. They are all not as tanky as their position would want you to be. So you need to learn positioning, using consumables right and reading the map and the teams fast or get destroyed far too often, far too early. A steep learning curve, but if you can get 52%+ winrate on each of them, you will understand the game.

 

You can also choose the much easier way and pick russian heavy cruisers.

 

I'd stay away from dutch, japanese and panasian cruisers and RN-CAs.

 

Whatever you decide to play. Watch replays. Read the info. Keep an eye on your results.

 

[Panocek]

20 hours ago, johncl said:

Pensa ...Oh my Enough armour to arm most BB AP ...These things go pop like balloons ...I agree with what you say ..can be powerful for T6 ..I sold her twice ..

76mm is common citadel plating at tier 6, while to have any hope of stopping BB grade munitions we're looking at 300mm+, not found on any cruiser in game. And ones that do get close to that value, face guns casually having 500mm or more pen at 15km

 

At the same time, Pensacola 25mm hull can ricochet 350mm guns, which are common sight at midtiers, feat not necessarily replicable by other cruisers of her tier.

 

[HMS_Kilinowski]

15 hours ago, Panocek said:

At the same time, Pensacola 25mm hull can ricochet 350mm guns, which are common sight at midtiers, feat not necessarily replicable by other cruisers of her tier.

 

Pensacola will even bounce 356mm shells. One of the big features of the Warspite is that its 380mm finally can overmatch 25mm of armor, which earned it the nickname "T6-Yamato", cause even most BBs in the MM range only have 25mm bow armor. At the same time Pensacolas 203mm guns can overmatch the 16mm bow armor still found on many light cruisers in the MM. Pensacola is not the damage pinata it used to be. T7-Pensacola was a totally different story, cause it encountered many larger calibers getting matched into T9 games. One tier can make quite the difference between squishiness and tankiness.

[Panocek]

42 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said:

 

Pensacola will even bounce 356mm shells. One of the big features of the Warspite is that its 380mm finally can overmatch 25mm of armor, which earned it the nickname "T6-Yamato", cause even most BBs in the MM range only have 25mm bow armor. At the same time Pensacolas 203mm guns can overmatch the 16mm bow armor still found on many light cruisers in the MM. Pensacola is not the damage pinata it used to be. T7-Pensacola was a totally different story, cause it encountered many larger calibers getting matched into T9 games. One tier can make quite the difference between squishiness and tankiness.

For starters, T7 Pensacola had way back then base concealment on par with her upgraded gun range. And Concealment skill was matter of getting 15pointer captain, not 10 as it is now.

 

Also I don't think 25mm plating was common back then on tier 7, certainly I do know 25mm plating became common on tier 6 after IFHE/armor changes AND then afterwards Pensa/Nope Orlean got plastered in 25mm wholesale

 

52 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said:

One tier can make quite the difference between squishiness and tankiness.

Happens when game mechanics are binary in effect. Either you are spotted or you don't. Either you penetrate or you don't. Either you overmatch or you don't.

[arczer25]

5 hours ago, Panocek said:

Also I don't think 25mm plating was common back then on tier 7, certainly I do know 25mm plating became common on tier 6 after IFHE/armor changes AND then afterwards Pensa/Nope Orlean got plastered in 25mm wholesale

19mm or 16mm was standard at tier 7 at that time, with exception midsection of Japanese Myoko with 25mm and Indianapolis with 22mm (283mm auto bounce and DD HE shatter)
IFHE rework changed that to 25mm for all heavy cruisers, previously found only on IJN Cruisers at tier VI and VII (and 152mm without IFHE shattered on 25mm plating too).

[johncl]

For me numbers aside I don't like Pensacola ...I played it 1st time round then tried it again as an experienced player and still don't like it ...........I sold her twice ...

 

 

[S_h_i_v_a]

"Start playing cruisers".... point is that low tier ships are different from high tier ships.

 

I got all T6 cruisers before i started to check on youtube what ones i wanted to push to TX.

UK and US cruisers are good for shooting over islands... but bullets are slow, so target can avoid them.

Russian and german cruisers have faster bullets and more range... but cannot shoot over islands. 

Radar cruisers start mostly T8 (some premiums T7) and can detect targets at 10 (US-Uk) or 12 (russians) km range.

Netherland cruisers have airstrikes... but T8-TX they burn 60 instead of 30 seconds.

 

Check youtube (search WoWs + "shipname") and you may find the right inspiration.

 

 

 

[Estato]

My advice is to start with this order.

1-Russian

2-US

3-German

4-Holland

5-French

6-Japan

[MoveZig]

Brit CA (t6+) might be the most forgiving thanks to built-in heals (and somewhat better armor than the CL line). But gunnery is harder than some other lines. Then again, the HE is good and HE is a lower-skill ammo choice as you don't have to memorize armor schemes to know where to shoot. Just shoot at the center of mass, or where there's no fire yet.

 

French are probably the most brainless and simple but you better git gud at wasdhax, because there is no superheal, smoke or good armor scheme to help you survive.