Operation Phoenix: Kill the game so it can be born again better

[MixuS]

I can't be the only one who is very frustrated by this endless cycle:

1. WG introduces something that makes the game worse
2. Community goes "This is garbage, I won't spend anything until it goes away"
3. Community keeps spending because game didn't get bad enough

 

Rinse and repeat the steps over and over again with each patch. Every turn to the worse is just slightly not bad enough to actually make meaningful amout of players quit. Players keep playing, WG keeps making the game worse. You can see this effect in almost all "I took X month break and then game back" message in the forums. Those who steadily keep playing don't even realize how bad the game has got. Those who took a longer break go WTF IS THIS SHI*?

 

I admit that I'm as quilty as any. I too feel that game keeps getting worse and worse, but still every time my premium runs out, I buy more and keep playing.

 

For WG to change their ways making the game worse, one thing needs to happen. Their revenue needs to drop. No matter how much we complain and moan, if they keep getting cash, they will keep f'ffing the game up.

 

So what to do? Let me present you the Operation Phoenix. Let's help WG kill off the game so it can be born again better (or be replaced by competition).

I suggest the following: We players actively help WG in making the game worse. If steps to the worse get big enough, then maybe, maybe players will actually quit instead of just saying they will.

Cease giving any thoughs on other players and their enjoyment. Take every step to be as toxic as game allows you to be. However, DO NOT BREAK GAME RULES. 

1. Buy supercarrier and become CV main, though pls train a bit on lower tiers first so you actually roflstomp and not just humiliate yourself
2. Take out your tierX rental sub on regular basis and better yet, division up with your sub mate
3. If you absolutely have to play any other class, do the following:
   1. When in BB, borderhump and snipe. Stay away from all caps. Preferably only use HE.
   2. If playing DDs, only play ships with long range torps and then stay at max range. Don't cap. Complain about radars on chat.
   3. If playing cruisers, slam that W-button, beeline to nearest cap and die, but take at least one enemy DD with you (preferably do this with radar cruiser).
      1. Exception to this rule is all cruisers that have smoke. With those you should try to maximize the damage you do, while minimizing actual usefulnes, so smoke spam BBs but ignore caps and enemy DDs.

 

If game get's so bad that players actually stop playing and paying, then maybe WG will do something about it. Even game actually dying off and closing might be a good thing, because that creates a hole for competition to fill.

 

And just to avoid instant thread lock: suggestions above are 100% sarcasm and intended to provoke conversation, not actual action.

 

And final word, being 100% serious this time:

Currently I don't see the game ever getting any better. WG can and will keep making changes that are 100% aimed at attracting fast buck from new players. Not surprising that pretty much all these changes are hated by veteran players. But while the game get's worse and worse, it never takes such a plunge that enough players would quit (me included), and nothing will ever change since WG has no need to change their ways as money keeps coming in.

[WalkingDutchman]

There are two types of people. Those that choose light and won't even go near CV's or subs. And those that choose darkness as OP here.

[SkipperCH]

Something like this worked sooooo well with Anthem.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

10 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

Something like this worked sooooo well with Anthem.

Anthem is dead anyway, not because of player action but because the devs and publishers messed up harder than WG could even dream of.

[ColonelPete]

52 minutes ago, MixuS said:

1. Take out your tierX rental sub on regular basis and better yet, division up with your sub mate
2. If you absolutely have to play any other class, do the following:
   1. When in BB, borderhump and snipe. Stay away from all caps. Preferably only use HE.
   2. If playing DDs, only play ships with long range torps and then stay at max range. Don't cap. Complain about radars on chat.
   3. If playing cruisers, slam that W-button, beeline to nearest cap and die, but take at least one enemy DD with you (preferably do this with radar cruiser).
      1. Exception to this rule is all cruisers that have smoke. With those you should try to maximize the damage you do, while minimizing actual usefulnes, so smoke spam BBs but ignore caps and enemy DDs.

 

That will only enforce WG that they are on the right Track

[lup3s]

22 minutes ago, Yuu5Eleven said:

Anthem is dead anyway, not because of player action but because the devs and publishers messed up harder than WG could even dream of.

 

Ok now I am curious.

 

goes to google "Anthem videogame" 

[DirtyHeddy]

57 minutes ago, Yuu5Eleven said:

Anthem is dead anyway, not because of player action but because the devs and publishers messed up harder than WG could even dream of.

Do not underestimate the devs and publishers from WG ... rest assured, they can, and they have shown often enough ...

[Yosha_AtaIante]

11 minutes ago, DirtyHeddy said:

Do not underestimate the devs and publishers from WG ... rest assured, they can, and they have shown often enough ...

I don't see WG managing something as badly as anthem was anywhere, can you point it out to me?

[MixuS]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

That will only enforce WG that they are on the right Track

That was the goal of my suggestion.

 

And because some here didn't obviously read or understand the post, despite underlining, bolding and italics, post was sarcasm. I don't really mean anyone goes and does what I suggest.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

4 minutes ago, MixuS said:

That was the goal of my suggestion.

 

And because some here didn't obviously read or understand the post, despite underlining, bolding and italics, post was sarcasm. I don't really mean anyone goes and does what I suggest.

What's the point of your topic anyway

[Maris_Piper]

1 hour ago, Yuu5Eleven said:

Anthem is dead anyway, not because of player action but because the devs and publishers messed up harder than WG could even dream of.

You do realise someone at WG/Festa is saying "Hold My Vodka"  

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, Maris_Piper said:

You do realise someone at WG/Festa is saying "Hold My Vodka"  

Aren't you feeling like this overused joke is getting old at all?

[Maris_Piper]

1 minute ago, Yuu5Eleven said:

Aren't you feeling like this overused joke is getting old at all?

The Old  Ones are the Gold Ones 

[MixuS]

8 minutes ago, Yuu5Eleven said:

What's the point of your topic anyway

Venting out frustration on game's slow decay.

[Panocek]

5 minutes ago, MixuS said:

Venting out frustration on game's slow decay.

Not going to fix anything, as people even remotely associated with game development:

-don't read forums

-certainly don't read EU forums

 

sadly, there is no other way than "stop/reduce playtime" when game ceases to be fun.

[Anthoniusii]

I agree as idea. BUT actually nothing happens because as the poster admited he keeps buying premium again and again.

I made this mistake 3 times.

Bought KII , bought Vanguard (big mistake)  and finished Hizen with doublons  more than the last 3 phases believing the lies WG wrote about the ship's parameters (huge mistake also)..

Now despite the new ship in shipyard looks promissing i will spant 0 doublons for it.

Also I stoped buying tier 10 premium cammos since there are unlimited ALL STEEL camos that from the in port settings i can see them as the real premium ones too!

In my case only WG lost the last few months more than 60 Euros.

If 100 or 1000 players do the same WG will be forced to change its policy.

[NewHorizons_1]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

That will only enforce WG that they are on the right Track

Agreed.

 

WG: Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.

 

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

2 hours ago, WalkingDutchman said:

There are two types of people. Those that choose light and won't even go near CV's or subs. And those that choose darkness as OP here.

Yeah I get it, and so far I belong firmly in the first category. And I will never play cancer classes. But I only play for enjoyment, and subs especially make every player in every game feel like SH1T when the game starts. It passes and you make do, but how often does it happen that you're in a game with no CV or sub and EVERYONE breathes a sigh of relief?

There was just no need at all for this submarine BS, and players don't understand it because it just MAKES NO SENSE.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 hours ago, PsychoClownfish said:

 And I will never play cancer classes.

 

 

Me neither! And.. I feel I should point out that this has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I suck so badly on both of them, it's a matter of moral principle of the most principled and moral kind.

 

Well, I might slip into coop now and then with a CV, but not like anyone's going to notice. Damagewise, at least.

[Chaoskraehe]

What annoys me the most are team members that derp in the first minutes and make it almost impossible to win anymore. 

 

CV's and subs are annoying, but not as much as some team members. 

[deathsadow]

7 hours ago, Panocek said:

Not going to fix anything, as people even remotely associated with game development:

-don't read forums

-certainly don't read EU forums

 

sadly, there is no other way than "stop/reduce playtime" when game ceases to be fun.

 

Yeah devs hardly even read forums i guess ... also even if a dev also agree with us its not up to him to decide. The deciding factor is not what the dev thinks but that cash forcast what the manager gets and make is choice on, and that says that Subs = Good Money.

 

Btw am i the only one who actually cut down playtime over the subs and super ships ? 1 Anoying game vs one of those and im done for that day ... also i cant be bothered to grind new lines for a year or 2 now.

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

4 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Me neither! And.. I feel I should point out that this has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I suck so badly on both of them, it's a matter of moral principle of the most principled and moral kind.

 

Well, I might slip into coop now and then with a CV, but not like anyone's going to notice. Damagewise, at least.

Don't let me catch you in there! 

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

48 minutes ago, deathsadow said:

Btw am i the only one who actually cut down playtime over the subs and super ships ? 1 Anoying game vs one of those and im done for that day ... also i cant be bothered to grind new lines for a year or 2 now.

No, I've been playing less too. I just don't wanna deal with it. Every time I press 'Battle' I hold my breath and hope there's no subs.

I had a game this afternoon in which I managed to get away from a sub, only for him to then attack an Amagi that was closer, and got sunk. And I felt bad. Subs are just complete sh1te.

[DDsOnly]

Folks here should stop blaming developers of the game, they develop what the top brass wants them to make, developers have no say in the end they just have to make it work.

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

13 minutes ago, DDsOnly said:

Folks here should stop blaming developers of the game, they develop what the top brass wants them to make, developers have no say in the end they just have to make it work.

 

Perhaps 'developer' is then a misnomer in this context. What would be a more appropriate term, I wonder.