Are Bots and mods programming rife

[LABRAT_1UK]

Az it says ^^  should they be looking before a comp and during not after the BOAT has sailed. It would help if they looked at the results before they post l   

[Klopirat]

Vor 1 Minute, LABRAT_1UK sagte:

should they be looking before a comp

please explain how WG should detect a bot usage before it happens

Vor 6 Minuten, LABRAT_1UK sagte:

and during not after the BOAT

it is much more feasible to do it afterwards

Vor 3 Minuten, LABRAT_1UK sagte:

It would help if they looked at the results before they post

but the results were not posted yet?

 

[pra3y]

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[LABRAT_1UK]

40 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

please explain how WG should detect a bot usage before it happens

Thxs for the info did not know that 

[principat121]

Dear TO,

could you please verify the following for me:

Spoiler

 

 

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, LABRAT_1UK said:

Az it says ^^  should they be looking before a comp and during not after the BOAT has sailed. It would help if they looked at the results before they post l   

As it doeznt say: Wat u talkn about?

[hellhound666]

29 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

As it doeznt say: Wat u talkn about?

i was reading it and figured that apparently im getting older and dumber as dementia is kicking in as i couldn't understand anything ...

[NewHorizons_1]

There are some well-known potatoes sailing Pommerns/FdG/Bismarck/Agir in co-op that are suspected of being bots.

They have predictable behaviour, Eg abandoning a flank to sail across the back of the map to then face the centre cap zone.

Main battery guns rarely point anywhere vaguely useful and just derp into secondary/torp range of the bots.

 

3 hours ago, Klopirat said:

please explain how WG should detect a bot usage before it happens

WG could probably run down the stats database and flag up suspicious accounts which could be monitored more closely, eg do they actually aim their main guns?

Here are 3 off the top of my head.

Also, given that CV players get an AFK warning if they don't drop aircraft ordnance, maybe BBs should get a warning if the main guns are never fired or aimed to get a lock.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LABRAT_1UK]

Sorry should of done a poll (yes or no do you think its rife ) what I'm trying to get at is  they posted the first half of the Easter hunt without looking. The next comp they are doing there's note at the bottom saying they will be looking for bots and cheats. Now theirs  a news flash about mods and bots 

[NewHorizons_1]

25 minutes ago, LABRAT_1UK said:

Sorry should of done a poll (yes or no do you think its rife ) what I'm trying to get at is  they posted the first half of the Easter hunt without looking. The next comp they are doing there's note at the bottom saying they will be looking for bots and cheats. Now theirs  a news flash about mods and bots 

Botting exists, but I don't think it is rife - the examples I gave above stand out because they are rare, statistical outliers.

If it was rife, there would be bots in every match, though a while ago co-op was infested by the [CLAWS] clan of bots - thankfully no more.

 

My gut feeling about how widespread hack/cheat mods are is that they're also quite uncommon.

I think most accusations of hacks/cheats are due to players not fully understanding game mechanics or lack of knowledge of certain ships.

For example a team mate, in co-op, got salty that I stole a kill by burning down a bot Montana in my AP-only Plymouth. He probably ignored that fact its secondaries fire HE shells.

Someone else got accused of cheating in Vampire II (IIRC) because they didn't realize it has a creeping smoke generator & hydro.

 

 

 

 

 

[PeteEarthling]

33 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

There are some well-known potatoes sailing Pommerns/FdG/Bismarck/Agir in co-op that are suspected of being bots.

The 1% main gun hit ratio is hilarious. I think that "guy3" played a couple of games manually before starting to bot and letting the AI 2ndaries doing the damage.

[LABRAT_1UK]

9 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Botting exists, but I don't think it is rife - the above examples stand out because they are rare, statistical outliers.

If it was rife, there would be bots in every match, though a while ago co-op was infested by the [CLAWS] clan of bots.

 

Thanks for your help .Do you know what they gain playing bots in co/op ? cant get my head around that one 

[NewHorizons_1]

1 minute ago, PeteEarthling said:

The 1% main gun hit ratio is hilarious. I think that "guy3" played a couple of games manually before starting to bot and letting the AI 2ndaries doing the damage.

It is.

I'm almost tempted to get Pommern myself and see how badly I can potato in it.

 

[NewHorizons_1]

13 minutes ago, LABRAT_1UK said:

Thanks for your help .Do you know what they gain playing bots in co/op ?

There was a suspicion that the [CLAWS] bots were abusing the recruitment drive to get Amazon vouchers.

But thankfully WG appeared to clamp down on that some time ago.

As for the Pommern potatoes, probably FreeXP, credits, commander XP and daily crates I guess.

Co-op has 25% lower running costs and premium ships have camos that reduce the expense too, so I guess even Mr. 1% can (slowly) make a profit.

Heck, it's not like those guys are shelling out on main gun ammo (pun intended) - they're appear to be derping around with secondaries, ramming and the occasional torp.

 

[LABRAT_1UK]

3 hours ago, pra3y said:

As the man says you cant say   "C _ _ _   in Canada"   so I know I cant say it on  here    

 you have a fun day  xxx

[Dragon12_G]

Game is full of cheating playes, increasing day by day......Promoting snipping in the game by has helped that sc@m to hide...

[ColonelPete]

22 minutes ago, Dragon12_G said:

Game is full of cheating playes, increasing day by day......

Really, how are they doing that? Hitting your broadside?

[Dragon12_G]

On 5/5/2022 at 7:38 PM, ColonelPete said:

Really, how are they doing that? Hitting your broadside?

Why something has to be about ME...? Did you read anything about mysellf...? Are you one of them perhaps...?

[BLUB__BLUB]

On 5/5/2022 at 12:27 PM, LABRAT_1UK said:

Az it says ^^  should they be looking before a comp and during not after the BOAT has sailed. It would help if they looked at the results before they post l   

It is easy, you should just return home before entering battle. 

[ColonelPete]

14 minutes ago, Dragon12_G said:

Why something has to be about ME...? Did you read anything about mysellf...? Are you one of them perhaps...?

That is why I am asking you a question...

Do you know what a question is? Have you seen a questionmark "?" before?

[Andunedhel_GC]

Alle 5/5/2022 alle 14:59, LABRAT_1UK ha scritto:

Sorry should of done a poll (yes or no do you think its rife ) what I'm trying to get at is  they posted the first half of the Easter hunt without looking. The next comp they are doing there's note at the bottom saying they will be looking for bots and cheats. Now theirs  a news flash about mods and bots 

Might it be that, even assuming the guys here got 10 Easter eggs each game they played, WG realized such results would mean for the top 7 to have played between 400 and 700 games in 14 days, or 28 to 50 games per day, every day, winning every single one of them and being in the top 3 of each game every single time. Put an optimistic average time of 10 minute for each random game and you get between 4 and 8 hours of playing every single day for 2 weeks (again, assuming the winning 100% and being top3 100% of the times thing, otherwise things become MUCH longer).

 

Maybe I'm too optimistic about the use of time by human beings, but I don't think real people would do such a thing or could manage that kind of winning streaks anyway.

Note: I think there were other ways to get Easter eggs, but as far as I know they were very marginal.

 

[DVC_Neo_Goonie]

Am 5.5.2022 um 18:38, ColonelPete sagte:

Really, how are they doing that? Hitting your broadside?

No..they just check Youtube to see wich cheats are up to date.

[COPlUM]

On 5/5/2022 at 12:34 PM, Klopirat said:

please explain how WG should detect a bot usage before it happens

Traffic lights captcha before you are allowed to click battle.

 

Spoiler

It would also keep sniping german battleships played by humans out

 

[MistaBoo]

The reality is bots and hacks etc are rife and for the most part WG are in a catch 22 situation.

As was explained to me a couple of years ago if they detect a hack and ban it the hackers just change some code and Hack X is now Hack Y. 

Now if the hackers were to change that part of the code several times then Hack X would now be Hack Y,  Hack Z, Hack A etc etc.

Its sometimes better to be aware but ignore an Exploit or Hack rather then risk it ruining the game.