If you could make up a ship...

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

i am ok with any ship that has AA not for decoration .

[Jethro_Grey]

All i'd need is, for Z-52 to have Darings pen angles and RoF. 

[Nibenay78]

54 minutes ago, PeteEarthling said:

Imperial Star Destroyer, for exactly those reasons.

It would fit in the direction WG has been heading.

[Viridem]

This is probably unbalanced, but:

-take an Amagi, upgrade her armour and HP to fit tier X or XI

-replace her twin 410mm by Izumo's triple 410mm.

-one or two quint torpedo launcher on each side, with at least the same firing angles as Kii, if not better. Choice of either F3 or type 93 mod 3 torpedoes.

-twenty 100mm HA guns and sixteen 152mm casemate guns with a base 8km range

-a bit more AA guns than Shikishima

-standard consumables + defAA in its own slot

 

3 hours ago, Chaoskraehe said:

A second IJN cruiser line and a Zao rework. 

 

And a second IJN BB line. In general more IJN ships please 

 

I fear that there really isn't enough historical cruisers and battleships left for a new line. Maybe a small baby cruiser one that would stop at tier VII. Not that I wouldn't want to see that...

What did you have in mind?

The only battleship not yet featured is Yamashiro. They're all there otherwise!

(excluding paper ships that never left their blueprint stage)

 

Japan still has plenty of carriers and submarine, though. Joy! ;)

[Sub_Human]

1 hour ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Ragnar but with three turrets. 

Super Ragnar... I would not be suprised 

[NewHorizons_1]

Actually, this thread may be a bad idea.

I can just imagine the project manager for T11 struggling for new ideas

 

WG : write this down! WRITE THIS DOWN!!

Systergummi : What have I done ??!!

[Sub_Human]

11 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Actually, this thread may be a bad idea.

I can just imagine the project manager for T11 struggling for new ideas

 

WG : write this down! WRITE THIS DOWN!!

Systergummi : What have I done ??!!

Super Ragnar, Mega Belfast, SmolKremlin and a Star Destroyer coming up. 

[Bland_42]

If I can say.

 

Take the Gneisenau, pump it to 37 knots + french speed boost, put in semi-auto 38 cm main guns with 15 seconds reload and 2.15 sigma, secondaries to be 15 cm with 2 seconds reload and 10 km base range, give it italian smoke, hydro and radar, british heal...

And of course, self-homing (no ping needed) torpedos, with 20 km range, 25k damage and 90 kn speed

 

T9 obviously

[Chaoskraehe]

Vor 57 Minuten, Viridem sagte:

This is probably unbalanced, but:

-take an Amagi, upgrade her armour and HP to fit tier X or XI

-replace her twin 410mm by Izumo's triple 410mm.

-one or two quint torpedo launcher on each side, with at least the same firing angles as Kii, if not better. Choice of either F3 or type 93 mod 3 torpedoes.

-twenty 100mm HA guns and sixteen 152mm casemate guns with a base 8km range

-a bit more AA guns than Shikishima

-standard consumables + defAA in its own slot

 

 

I fear that there really isn't enough historical cruisers and battleships left for a new line. Maybe a small baby cruiser one that would stop at tier VII. Not that I wouldn't want to see that...

What did you have in mind?

The only battleship not yet featured is Yamashiro. They're all there otherwise!

(excluding paper ships that never left their blueprint stage)

 

Japan still has plenty of carriers and submarine, though. Joy! ;)

OP said any ship not only historical accurate. 

To be honest i don't know much about historical ships and WG also seem to doesn't care if ships existed or were planned. 

I find the IJN ships the most beautiful ones so i would like to have more. And IJN cruiser feel hit hard by the powercreep the last years. So new ones that fit better into the meta would be nice. 

 

I'm very bad with CV's and don't care about subs, so that doesnt help me much. xD

[Karasu_Browarszky]

7 minutes ago, Chaoskraehe said:

OP said any ship not only historical accurate. 

To be honest i don't know much about historical ships and WG also seem to doesn't care if ships existed or were planned. 

I find the IJN ships the most beautiful ones so i would like to have more. And IJN cruiser feel hit hard by the powercreep the last years. So new ones that fit better into the meta would be nice. 

 

I'm very bad with CV's and don't care about subs, so that doesnt help me much. xD

 

You may be delighted to hear that all WG ships undergo a paintstakingly thorough process to make sure they are historically accurate right down to the minutest little detal. Even if they never existed or are complete figments of imagination.

[Viridem]

10 minutes ago, Chaoskraehe said:

OP said any ship not only historical accurate. 

To be honest i don't know much about historical ships and WG also seem to doesn't care if ships existed or were planned. 

I find the IJN ships the most beautiful ones so i would like to have more. And IJN cruiser feel hit hard by the powercreep the last years. So new ones that fit better into the meta would be nice. 

 

I'm very bad with CV's and don't care about subs, so that doesnt help me much. xD

Aaaah I didn't fully understand, my bad.

 

In that case yes, I'm all for a second cruiser line, I'd love to see it!

 

Maybe a hybrid light cruiser line, with planes? They could start it at tier V with Sendai (which would be a buffed Kuma, with dive or torpedo bombers), then Ooyodo (two triple 155mm in front, hangar at the back, no torps), then whatever they feel like inventing for the rest of the line. They would be armed with 155mm triple guns from tier VI to X.

Maybe they could rearange the main line, too. Improve a bit the Zao and make her a coal ship, replace her with a new ship armed with 310mm guns. Like they did with the main German BB line or Soviet DD line.

The tier XIs would be a super Yoshino for the main line. For the alternate line, I see five triple 155mm turrets all in front, with a short reload, and a flight deck at the back. Or maybe four turrets in front, the superstructure, two turrets and then the flight deck. A looooong ship!

They could take the opportunity to add Mogami with a flight deck as a tier VII premium (which did exist, basically Tone, but with one less turret), and a Nagara class as a premium tier IV or V (I was thinking Isuzu: basically a Kuma, but full of gimmicks).

 

Maybe they could do somethign similar with the BB line. After all, Yamashiro was at one point planned to get a flight deck, like Ise.

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

6 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

A Tier 10 Georgia.

 

Same guns, but triple turrets.

Same maneuverability, more hp.

There is already an Ohio. Be a pretty close version.

[Chaoskraehe]

Vor 30 Minuten, Viridem sagte:

Aaaah I didn't fully understand, my bad.

 

In that case yes, I'm all for a second cruiser line, I'd love to see it!

 

Maybe a hybrid light cruiser line, with planes? They could start it at tier V with Sendai (which would be a buffed Kuma, with dive or torpedo bombers), then Ooyodo (two triple 155mm in front, hangar at the back, no torps), then whatever they feel like inventing for the rest of the line. They would be armed with 155mm triple guns from tier VI to X.

Maybe they could rearange the main line, too. Improve a bit the Zao and make her a coal ship, replace her with a new ship armed with 310mm guns. Like they did with the main German BB line or Soviet DD line.

The tier XIs would be a super Yoshino for the main line. For the alternate line, I see five triple 155mm turrets all in front, with a short reload, and a flight deck at the back. Or maybe four turrets in front, the superstructure, two turrets and then the flight deck. A looooong ship!

They could take the opportunity to add Mogami with a flight deck as a tier VII premium (which did exist, basically Tone, but with one less turret), and a Nagara class as a premium tier IV or V (I was thinking Isuzu: basically a Kuma, but full of gimmicks).

 

Maybe they could do somethign similar with the BB line. After all, Yamashiro was at one point planned to get a flight deck, like Ise.

IJN hybrids would be really nice. I love Tone. 

[Miragetank90]

1 hour ago, Chaoskraehe said:

OP said any ship not only historical accurate. 

To be honest i don't know much about historical ships and WG also seem to doesn't care if ships existed or were planned. 

I find the IJN ships the most beautiful ones so i would like to have more. And IJN cruiser feel hit hard by the powercreep the last years. So new ones that fit better into the meta would be nice. 

 

I'm very bad with CV's and don't care about subs, so that doesnt help me much. xD

 

34 minutes ago, Viridem said:

Aaaah I didn't fully understand, my bad.

 

In that case yes, I'm all for a second cruiser line, I'd love to see it!

 

Maybe a hybrid light cruiser line, with planes? They could start it at tier V with Sendai (which would be a buffed Kuma, with dive or torpedo bombers), then Ooyodo (two triple 155mm in front, hangar at the back, no torps), then whatever they feel like inventing for the rest of the line. They would be armed with 155mm triple guns from tier VI to X.

Maybe they could rearange the main line, too. Improve a bit the Zao and make her a coal ship, replace her with a new ship armed with 310mm guns. Like they did with the main German BB line or Soviet DD line.

The tier XIs would be a super Yoshino for the main line. For the alternate line, I see five triple 155mm turrets all in front, with a short reload, and a flight deck at the back. Or maybe four turrets in front, the superstructure, two turrets and then the flight deck. A looooong ship!

They could take the opportunity to add Mogami with a flight deck as a tier VII premium (which did exist, basically Tone, but with one less turret), and a Nagara class as a premium tier IV or V (I was thinking Isuzu: basically a Kuma, but full of gimmicks).

 

Maybe they could do somethign similar with the BB line. After all, Yamashiro was at one point planned to get a flight deck, like Ise.

 

IIRC speculation says there is a second Japanese cruiser line on the way based on a promotional image that was released by WG either late last year or early this year.

It was a silhouette of a ship released as part of a news article. Someone identified it as being one of the historical JPN Light cruisers of WWII vintage and not yet in the game. 

 

My brain is too addled to remember the details. I can't find it right now, but I didn't look hard. 

[invicta2012]

5 hours ago, Systergummi said:

FenYang is plain bad as is the worse Ognevoi.

FenYang is just fine. Really, she is. You want to play Siliwangi for the real awkward experience. What is it with DDs with 2 x 2 at either end of the ship? They seem to be the worst gunboats going. 

 

Anyway: ships I would make up?

 

HMS Benbow

Admiral Class Cruiser, RN Supership.

Instead of Minotaur's 5 x 2 MK26 6 inch guns, Benbow replaces "B" and "C" turrets with a launcher pod for Ship-To-Ship Missiles (which work rather like a cross between Dutch Airstrikes and IJN Torpedoes - they have a long range (but fairly long flight time) and can be directed at an area of the map, rather than requiring targeting on specific ships; some form of homing could be considered, allowing for counterplay. They tend to overpenetrate lightly armoured vessels but will cause significant explosive damage to cruisers, and have a high chance of causing fires on battleship superstructures. Up to 4 missiles can be launched every 120 seconds). 

 

This is a merger of Minotaur, Tiger and the Batch 2 County Class DD, and the intention is to provide an artillery-style long range deterrent to camping and sniping. The ship combines the range of a high tier battleship, with the waspish damage/fire setting of DD guns, along with the general qualities of the original ship (impressive gun damage at mid ranges, especially when concealed or kiting, but low survivability). 

 

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HMS Devastation

Royal Navy Battlecruiser, Tier VI

Originally ordered as HMS Resistance, a Revenge-class battleship, Devastation is the ne plus ultra of Jackie Fisher's thinking - the biggest possible guns on the fastest possible ship. Devastation shares some characteristics with her Renown class half-sisters; huge size, a three turret main battery and moderate armour. However rather than the 3 x 2 15 inch guns found on Repulse, Devastation features 3 x 1 18 inch guns of the type fitted to the battlecruiser incarnation of HMS Furious, the largest guns ever fitted on to a Royal Navy ship. It was found that Furious, being lightly built, could not deal with the forces generated by firing her guns and was converted into an aircraft carrier. Devastation, on the other hand, with her Battleship hull,  is built to take the strain. As a result her normal top speed is substantially reduced compared to Repulse (28 knots, rather than 31) but her overall armour build is stronger. She suffers from a Warspite-esque slow turret traverse and the slowest reload of any RN BB (33 seconds). Her huge size is also an invitation to HE spammers, but they will find that guns of Devastation's calibre are not be trifled with, and that her RN "SuperHeal" keeps her in the game longer than might be expected. 

 

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HMS Pendennis

Castle Class Destroyer, RN Supership

The real-life tier XI RN DD, the County Class, was the largest destroyer ever built by the Royal Navy, and merged the category of Cruiser and Destroyer. Built at a displacement of 6000 tons (similar to a Dido Class Cruiser), much of these ships' internal volume was given over the space needed to accommodate the large and ineffective SeaSlug missile. The Castle Class removes the need to accommodate this poor quality weapon and instead replaces it with 5 x 1 5 inch N1 guns. The N1 is an experimental Dual Purpose gun developed in the 1950s for a Destroyer/Cruiser hybrid ship - it never entered service but a modified version (Mark Q 4"/62) was used in destroyers built for the Chilean Navy. The N1 was designed with a theoretical rate of fire of 60+rpm but it was soon agreed that this would be a problem because of the ammunition the ship could carry and the impact of the barrel life of the gun. Consequently her 1s reload potential is only achieved in an alternative Burst firing mode, with her "normal" firing rate being approximately 2.25s. While Pendennis lags behind other comparable DDs in terms of maximum speed, her substantial health pool (the largest of any Supership DD), nimble RN handling and Burst fire mode make her a formidable enemy if an opportunity can be found. 

 

 

[doerhoff_damian]

A destroyer with 203mm Guns or russian 180mm would be funny

 

On a more serious note i think about having decent turret traverse on the 155mm Mogami and on the japanese torpedo destroyers

[Nibenay78]

2 hours ago, Systergummi said:

Super Ragnar, Mega Belfast, SmolKremlin and a Star Destroyer coming up. 

Can we make it an Super SD? While I used to be a SW fan (until certain movies killed it all), I do like the look of if the Executor

 

No I dont care if there are other SSD types. This is the only relevant one.

 

Edit: I'll pay 5 euro for the super part..

[tocqueville8]

42 minutes ago, PsychoClownfish said:

There is already an Ohio. Be a pretty close version.

 

Georgia is 5 knots faster and has a 15% speed boost: she feels very different.

[doerhoff_damian]

Vor 6 Stunden, Miragetank90 sagte:

putting a Super Stardestroyer into WoWs. 

Lets hope your super stardestroyer does not run into the lexx.

A 10 km long bioship that can destroy planets and is able to survive hits from other Planet destroyers, a supernova, traveling through a black hole and a nuke going off inside the ship.

If there is minor damage the ship can heal itself.

 

or you get hit by a few Nova Bombs from the Andromeda ascendant

[doerhoff_damian]

 

 

 

The flying Dutchman

[Miragetank90]

5 minutes ago, doerhoff_damian said:

Lets hope your super stardestroyer does not run into the lexx.

A 10 km long bioship that can destroy planets and is able to survive hits from other Planet destroyers, a supernova, traveling through a black hole and a nuke going off inside the ship.

If there is minor damage the ship can heal itself.

 

 

I definitely remember Andromeda. That one though... for some reason I had Event Horizon flashbacks.

Cue an eviscerated Lawrence Fishburne and Sam Neil screaming and being possessed by demons. That was a fun evening

[doerhoff_damian]

[doerhoff_damian]

[Viridem]

30 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

IIRC speculation says there is a second Japanese cruiser line on the way based on a promotional image that was released by WG either late last year or early this year.

It was a silhouette of a ship released as part of a news article. Someone identified it as being one of the historical JPN Light cruisers of WWII vintage and not yet in the game. 

 

My brain is too addled to remember the details. I can't find it right now, but I didn't look hard. 

Ooooh I'm interested. The closest I could find was this.

 

In "Japanese cruisers of the pacific war" by Eric Lacroix (got a digital copy), I found some infos about light cruiser designs:

-Design C-44, an improved Agano with one more turret.

-Design W-105, which would replace the 5 500 tons light cruisers (Kuma, Nagara and Sendai), armed with eight 127mm HA guns and six to eight seaplanes. Later evolved into the Ooyodo.

 

Surely have missed about a few other things. It's a big book.

 

So now we have some grounds to ask this:

"WG please Japanese Atlanta and Austin when?"

[Sub_Human]

8 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

FenYang is just fine. Really, she is. You want to play Siliwangi for the real awkward experience.

FenYang is not unplayable. That is not to say its any good. You have to play it very safe. In some cases that works out. The issue to me is that you have to take IFHE to be able to fight other DDs. If they fix that I can accept her as is. The high fire chance together with enhanced AP kinda makes up for the downgraded DPM vs Aki. The DW-torps are decent. The DFAA is a meme.

 

Silly Wang needs better torp reload or better main gun DPM. Higher ROF would do it, but giving it IJN HE alpha would be more fun.