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try Carrier for first time get a unsportman

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5 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

Reminds me of the first time I played a SPG in WoT - I had to ask how to get the overhead view...

I still have to Google how to do that on the rare occasions I need to play one of the bloody things (for missions, usually)...

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8 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

They didn't get that far in the training manual.....

 

Reminds me of the first time I played a SPG in WoT - I had to ask how to get the overhead view..........

 

1 minute ago, Verblonde said:

I still have to Google how to do that on the rare occasions I need to play one of the bloody things (for missions, usually)...

 

Glad to hear I wasn't the only one. Though, TBH, I haven't touched those devilish things in years.

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On 5/1/2022 at 4:36 PM, Littlefat46 said:

I have carrier and I try it out for first time yesterday

but now I try to learn how its work but when you mis ships

then you have a problem you get warning  of unsportman or IDLE 

by second time you get seem but you turn pink by 3 time you get no exit to it

so I send ticket why this is and get answer we know the problem and wil be fixed in next update

why I get feeling that not so wil be

know I can try carrier every day 2 times for a spin

so any have any tips

Really got to appreciate the irony of CVs getting either an unsportsmanlike or idle warning.

 

The single most broken thing after the spotting power is that they do not need to have their ship on the same map to be able to fight....well, more bully the surface ships. I mean, when talking about a fight, there have to be two people that activly combat eachother, not one ship getting pot shots on another without being able to do anything back.

 

And being able to attack without any risk of being attacked back is very unsportmanship like, imo.

 

My advice to OP: stop playing CVs until they balance them out vs the other classes. 

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53 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

I haven't touched those devilish things in years.

Probably just as well; it's a well-known 'fact' that playing too much arty makes your willy shrivel up and fall off...!

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3 hours ago, Yuu5Eleven said:

It's quite impressive that you didn't manage to get damage in a CV tbh

Well if you tryhard you can. :Smile_trollface:

 

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On 5/1/2022 at 4:36 PM, Littlefat46 said:

I have carrier and I try it out for first time yesterday

but now I try to learn how its work but when you mis ships

then you have a problem you get warning  of unsportman or IDLE 

by second time you get seem but you turn pink by 3 time you get no exit to it

so I send ticket why this is and get answer we know the problem and wil be fixed in next update

why I get feeling that not so wil be

know I can try carrier every day 2 times for a spin

so any have any tips

you deserve it for contributing to the problem, end of story

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On 5/4/2022 at 12:48 PM, Yedwy said:

Wow, listen m8 since you like enumeration:

 

1) I dont care what you did and what you intended to do BUT it was not a sec spec CV play, I have entire LINES of CVs with permaflages with sec spec on them to play coop and I never once got a warning. You know why? Couse sec spec doesnt mean you dont use planes at all...

 

2) Bug or intention that went a bit 2 far, only WG knows, they will prob correct it anyhow

 

3) My line is not in the line of removing prizes, your BOTING LIKE behavior got you flagged, nobody but yourself is to blame for doing what ever you did that was so non standard that you got flagged for it

 

4) My post offers to the discussion just as much as your whining over getting flagged does, nobody gives a ff that you wanted to do full sec run without using planes and got pink for that, mkay?

 

Have a nice day

Comming back to this is....

 

1) glad you know so much. Launching planes gives your position away. 2ndary zeppelin would usually include a div mate smoking you in (or using island as cover), now the last thing you wanna do in the smoke is starting planes and tell everyone where to shoot to get rid of the effing carrier. Also WG in there infinite wisdom ignored all feedback and removed the ability to switch from plane to carrier and back, so it's "use planes and pray for the crappy autopilot" or "sail manually and not use planes"

 

 

2) i believe it when i see it. As for going to far: i gave em all benefits of all doubts in existence, despite experience telling me that's pearls before the swines.

 

3) you gotta be ...... someone who calls manually controlling a ship "boting like behavior"  ... I fail to describe that in words that don't trigger chat censoring...

 

4) you fail on so many levels, you even fail to understand the basic of the thread. The thread is about the automated system obviously flagging or not flagging ppl for completely arbitrary crap, completely failing it's intended purpose. My "whining" is presenting facts gotten from (unintentional) tests proving or showing this, you are just talking crap in rather offensive language that offer absolutely nothing to any discussion or thread.

 

 

I have a nice day, thank you. As for you: offer something useful or interesting for the thread or bugger off.

 

Back to topic. It's kinda sad that WG sh*t on LWM that hard, she would prob test this and show what can or does trigger afk flags on various ships. Might be interesting to know what criteria are used for each class (or maybe it's just "use chosen primary armament once" ? that sounds like WG).

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On 5/4/2022 at 3:20 PM, Xi_Tian said:

It's quite impressive that you didn't manage to get damage in a CV tbh

WG be like: No [edited]way! Buff CV!

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On 5/6/2022 at 1:03 AM, bloodynicknames said:

you deserve it for contributing to the problem, end of story

not going to say you are completely wrong there.

But WG buffs Carriers solely based on popularity. So you should be grateful for ppl playing carrier so wg doesn't give them homing ICBM's (yet). WG also loves to put in all those missions that can only be completed with carriers...which is responsible for most of my carrier games....

And as much as i hate carriers and feel disgust at carrier mains, bugs should be fixed and mechanics should work. Also this potentially effects all ship types since it's a fully automated system punishing players based on, what seems so far, completely arbitrary parameters. Like , based on the info so far, you might end up getting punished for being devstruck before you can fire a single salvo in any ship. Or ppl getting punished because the sh*tty servers keep disconnecting them or the latest client keeps crashing....

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On 5/1/2022 at 4:36 PM, Littlefat46 said:

I have carrier and I try it out for first time yesterday

but now I try to learn how its work but when you mis ships

then you have a problem you get warning  of unsportman or IDLE 

by second time you get seem but you turn pink by 3 time you get no exit to it

so I send ticket why this is and get answer we know the problem and wil be fixed in next update

why I get feeling that not so wil be

know I can try carrier every day 2 times for a spin

so any have any tips

 

The Simple Answer is. Do not go into Matches before you even know the Controls.

Go to a Training Room. Put some Bots into it. And at least learn the Controls to the Point where you are actually capable of Hitting a Ship with Ship with something.

 

After that you did that and thus at least do minimal damage to something. You can safely move to Matches without going Pink.

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CVs who didnt reach a certain amount of spotting damage should get a penalty imo.

 

Just kidding.

 

Every CV should get a penalty. Subs? Double the penalty. :Smile_trollface:

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18 hours ago, ARE_YOU_HUMAN said:

WG be like: No [edited]way! Buff CV!

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On 5/1/2022 at 4:36 PM, Littlefat46 said:

I have carrier and I try it out for first time yesterday

but now I try to learn how its work but when you mis ships

then you have a problem you get warning  of unsportman or IDLE 

by second time you get seem but you turn pink by 3 time you get no exit to it

so I send ticket why this is and get answer we know the problem and wil be fixed in next update

why I get feeling that not so wil be

know I can try carrier every day 2 times for a spin

so any have any tips

 

If you go pink because of idling it means you do no damage. So I assume you have difficulties aiming your rockets, torpedos and bombs correctly. Which takes some practice, admittedly. Some general tips to help with that;

- Try to aim for big slow targets like battleships

- Try to avoid groups of ships because of clustered AA

- If you still have difficulties, the cluster bombs of the British CV line are by far the easiest to do at least some damage with, which should be enough not to turn pink

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15 hours ago, Purnylla said:

 

If you go pink because of idling it means you do no damage. So I assume you have difficulties aiming your rockets, torpedos and bombs correctly. Which takes some practice, admittedly. Some general tips to help with that;

- Try to aim for big slow targets like battleships

- Try to avoid groups of ships because of clustered AA

- If you still have difficulties, the cluster bombs of the British CV line are by far the easiest to do at least some damage with, which should be enough not to turn pink

His story doesn't add up tbh.

 

I played multiple (Coop) games with carrier manually sailing my carrier around and letting the secondaries work. Despite damage, kills, cap and spending all game at max speed angling in and dodging torpedoes i got flagged for inactivity. For the remaining games needed to fulfill the mission I started the match by launching 1 rocket squad, hammering left mouse button to strike the ocean in front of me and instantly recalling the squad afterwards...then did above: manually sail around and let my secondaries do work. Haven't received a 2nd warning.

So either launching a squad or finishing a single attack run was enough to not flag me for inactivity (and not doing it flagged me for it...lolz). Note that i bombed the ocean in my spawn, literally like 20km+ away from the closest enemy and with no enemy spotted yet.

So simply being to sh*t to actually hit any target shouldn't flag you as inactive. Anyone bored enough to test it ? ^^'

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11 hours ago, Catslave said:

So simply being to sh*t to actually hit any target shouldn't flag you as inactive. Anyone bored enough to test it ? ^^'

Have you tried not doing any damage at all, despite launching squadrons? Because I remember another topic of a CV-newbie who had troubles aiming their bombs and torpedos and getting warnings for no battle contribution, despite trying. 

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On 6/2/2022 at 11:25 AM, Purnylla said:

Have you tried not doing any damage at all, despite launching squadrons? Because I remember another topic of a CV-newbie who had troubles aiming their bombs and torpedos and getting warnings for no battle contribution, despite trying. 

no, hence i asked if anyone is bored enough to try.
But at least for me the difference between getting flagged and not getting flagged was launching 1 squad and striking the open sea once. So my one and only aerial attack ever missed any potential target by at least 20km ( you can't beat this, regardless of how bad you are at playing carrier). In both cases i moved, in both cases i capped, in both cases i manually marked secondary target ,in both cases i got secondary dmg and in both cases i got a flate 0 bomb hits / 0 torp hits / 0 damage from aerial attacks.

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Vor 12 Stunden, Paranoid_Potato sagte:

You play CV and subs, no sympathy if other players abuse report system.

This is about playing CV in co-op. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

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