try Carrier for first time get a unsportman

[Littlefat46]

I have carrier and I try it out for first time yesterday

but now I try to learn how its work but when you mis ships

then you have a problem you get warning  of unsportman or IDLE 

by second time you get seem but you turn pink by 3 time you get no exit to it

so I send ticket why this is and get answer we know the problem and wil be fixed in next update

why I get feeling that not so wil be

know I can try carrier every day 2 times for a spin

so any have any tips

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Don't play CV's...

 

So, the problem is you can't do damage? Try first in coop till you learn the basics. Did you stay in the spawn spot, by the way? Not moving at all, not using your engines?

 

 

[DeviousDave02]

CV aiming advice from 2020 (still holds true)

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/140363-how-to-aim-cv-bomber-and-corps-accordingly/?do=findComment&comment=3618162

 

Generally run some Coop matches (or training room) until you can reliably hit moving ships before going into Randoms.

 

With TVI Cv's Ops are also a decent training ground (as the AI in Ops actually dodges... sometimes)

 

As for avoiding going pink, press the 'M' key to open the map up and set some waypoints so your carrier hull moves around rather than just sitting still.

[Littlefat46]

ok thanx for that info but I play it in COOP

and yes I did move around

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, Littlefat46 said:

I have carrier and I try it out for first time yesterday

but now I try to learn how its work but when you mis ships

then you have a problem you get warning  of unsportman or IDLE 

by second time you get seem but you turn pink by 3 time you get no exit to it

so I send ticket why this is and get answer we know the problem and wil be fixed in next update

why I get feeling that not so wil be

know I can try carrier every day 2 times for a spin

so any have any tips

IDK m8 I never once got that in a CV not even when I didint budge the entire fight, if you have problems aiming play in an op, Aegis is pretty decent for learning the aim, also if that is 2 challenging as well you can go to training room, no penalties there

[Karasu_Browarszky]

It's a little strange then, because AFAIK, you don't get unsportsmanlike conduct just because you get zero damage. For instance, if you D/C right at the start or fail to load the battle and once you finally do get back (if you get back) and your ship is sunk, you will go pink.

 

But if you move around during the battle it should be enough, even if you you can't hit a single thing during the battle.

 

Er... that at least is what a friend told me how it is...

[NewHorizons_1]

Actually this does sound familiar.

A few weeks ago someone else found it funny they had got an unsportsman/AFK when playing a carrier.

He deliberately didn't do much, if any, damage as he was farming spotting damage for one of the missions.

[Yedwy]

1 minute ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Actually this sound familiar.

A few weeks ago someone else found it funny they had got an unsportsman/AFK when playing a carrier.

He deliberately didn't do much, if any, damage as he was farming spotting damage for one of the missions.

Yes, I get that if one doesnt do any damage and doesnt move the SHIP it might get triggered but doing either of the aforementioned should suffice...

[BrusilovX]

I've had a couple of games with CVs in co-op recently where I think I had an automatic 'unsportsmanship warning'.   It's only flashed up with the results followed by another message 'due to adhering to the rule the sanction has been lifted'.    The most recent time was in a Hornet and I was bottom tier and the planes were simply shredded before I could do anything.     I had relocated but did not manage to do any damage (it was a very fast co-op battle).  This was the first battle I had in her so I accept my performance was sub-par.

[El2aZeR]

According to a NA CM dealing 0 damage in a CV now gets you an automatic penalty.

[SodaBubbles]

6 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Actually this does sound familiar.

A few weeks ago someone else found it funny they had got an unsportsman/AFK when playing a carrier.

He deliberately didn't do much, if any, damage as he was farming spotting damage for one of the missions.

 

Yep, that was me. I did secondary damage too. Still got dinged. Great system, WG!

[NewHorizons_1]

1 minute ago, SodaBubbles said:

Yep, that was me. I did secondary damage too. Still got dinged. Great system, WG!

Good job you've got a sense of humour.

Mind you, sometimes with this game we all need it.

[black_falcon120]

39 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

According to a NA CM dealing 0 damage in a CV now gets you an automatic penalty.

Source?

[Catslave]

On 5/1/2022 at 4:42 PM, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Did you stay in the spawn spot, by the way? Not moving at all, not using your engines?

 

 

 

I got flagged for inactivity despite manually navigating my carrier almost 26km, getting 1 cap and some secondary dmg on targets i manually set as priority target, including a kill.

On 5/2/2022 at 1:08 AM, El2aZeR said:

According to a NA CM dealing 0 damage in a CV now gets you an automatic penalty.

doesnt explain my result tho.

 

[Yedwy]

Well seems that WG finally started to punish secondary only players to stop the botting, I say good for them

[Catslave]

16 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Well seems that WG finally started to punish secondary only players to stop the botting, I say good for them

do yourself a favor and delete that st***d comment...

[Yedwy]

4 minutes ago, Catslave said:

do yourself a favor and delete that st***d comment...

No, fact you ended up shafted accidentally (if you can call it that) doesnt mean the general concept is bad, yes it would be better if WG found some other way to detect and deal with such people but until they do its better then nothing

[Catslave]

8 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

No, fact you ended up shafted accidentally (if you can call it that) doesnt mean the general concept is bad, yes it would be better if WG found some other way to detect and deal with such people but until they do its better then nothing

#1 that was no accident, it is a bug, oversight or incompetence on WG side

#2 the thread is about the inactivity penalty system falsely flagging players, not your... (explanation see last part)

#3 your line is on the same level as "we have to remove flags from achievements because people suicided to farm detonation flags", going that way can only mean you should aim for the Darwin Award next

#4 your post offers nothing to the discussion at all

 

Based on the info gathered so far it seems that WG decides whether a carrier is active or inactive based on whether the player launched a single squad (or potentially a single attack run, even if only attacking the ocean or an island 20km away from any enemy), completely ignoring all and any input, movement or (chat) interaction.

I struggle to think of a worse implementation. 5 minutes of google offers everyone a solution on how to have your system send the 4 keys (1,1 to launch squad 1, 2x left click to attack) needed to do a single attack run without any human intervention.

 

Also 2ndary carrier has been a "valid" (that is highly debatable, but fun)  strategy ever since Graf Zeppelin had been released with the ridiculous 2ndaries.

 

As for your .....
A bot using only secondaries would be useless. WG went out of their way to make sure that all and any secondary dmg grants virtually no rewards at all. It would be way more efficient to make a bot that just rams the closest target since ramming actually gets normal dmg rewards.

[Yedwy]

32 minutes ago, Catslave said:

#1 that was no accident, it is a bug, oversight or incompetence on WG side

#2 the thread is about the inactivity penalty system falsely flagging players, not your... (explanation see last part)

#3 your line is on the same level as "we have to remove flags from achievements because people suicided to farm detonation flags", going that way can only mean you should aim for the Darwin Award next

#4 your post offers nothing to the discussion at all

 

Based on the info gathered so far it seems that WG decides whether a carrier is active or inactive based on whether the player launched a single squad (or potentially a single attack run, even if only attacking the ocean or an island 20km away from any enemy), completely ignoring all and any input, movement or (chat) interaction.

I struggle to think of a worse implementation. 5 minutes of google offers everyone a solution on how to have your system send the 4 keys (1,1 to launch squad 1, 2x left click to attack) needed to do a single attack run without any human intervention.

 

Also 2ndary carrier has been a "valid" (that is highly debatable, but fun)  strategy ever since Graf Zeppelin had been released with the ridiculous 2ndaries.

 

As for your .....
A bot using only secondaries would be useless. WG went out of their way to make sure that all and any secondary dmg grants virtually no rewards at all. It would be way more efficient to make a bot that just rams the closest target since ramming actually gets normal dmg rewards.

Wow, listen m8 since you like enumeration:

 

1) I dont care what you did and what you intended to do BUT it was not a sec spec CV play, I have entire LINES of CVs with permaflages with sec spec on them to play coop and I never once got a warning. You know why? Couse sec spec doesnt mean you dont use planes at all...

 

2) Bug or intention that went a bit 2 far, only WG knows, they will prob correct it anyhow

 

3) My line is not in the line of removing prizes, your BOTING LIKE behavior got you flagged, nobody but yourself is to blame for doing what ever you did that was so non standard that you got flagged for it

 

4) My post offers to the discussion just as much as your whining over getting flagged does, nobody gives a ff that you wanted to do full sec run without using planes and got pink for that, mkay?

 

Have a nice day

[Lexxmac]

Working as intended since there is no sportsmanship in playing CV´S 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

It's quite impressive that you didn't manage to get damage in a CV tbh

[Karasu_Browarszky]

With my CV play style, I'd go instant pink every battle then.

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

On 5/1/2022 at 4:53 PM, Littlefat46 said:

and yes I did move around

 

Did you also fly the planes around?

 

Because in a CV that is what they count as battle contribution, not the movement of the hull, IIRC.

[NewHorizons_1]

47 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

With my CV play style, I'd go instant pink every battle then.

Me too.

[BrusilovX]

1 hour ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

Did you also fly the planes around?

They didn't get that far in the training manual.....

 

Reminds me of the first time I played a SPG in WoT - I had to ask how to get the overhead view..........