Epicentre needs to go.

[The_Angry_Admiral]

I can't understand what is so difficult to comprehend with this mode. I mean the amount of teams I have who just hang out at the outer circle and just watch the enemy not only take the circles but then push our team back. Even if our team starts to come back in kills it's too late because you won't beat the points. 

 

What is so hard to understand with this mode? I find it dumb to be honest but that's not the point. 

[Klopirat]

Vor 10 Minuten, The_Angry_Admiral sagte:

Epicentre needs to go.

this is already announced to happen with 0.11.4. so...

[The_Angry_Admiral]

5 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

this is already announced to happen with 0.11.4. so...

Oh thank god.

 

Why is it though people find this mode so mind boggling? 

[ColonelPete]

Just now, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Oh thank god.

 

Why is it though people find this mode so mind boggling? 

It is the playerbase.

For the majority of players there are only two modes of play. Rush forward without stopping or stay back.

[FooFaFie]

I think your conclusion is wrong.  Those type of players that play epicenter wrong do the same thing in other modes. Those same players don't protect the cap in Standard battle and sail toward the edge of the map. Those same players won't go near the caps in domination and only sail in the back.

 

The only problem with Epicentre is that is that you see it more clearly. But in reality they play the 3 battle modes the same way. Stay in the back and let the other players take all the risks.

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

22 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Oh thank god.

 

Why is it though people find this mode so mind boggling? 

Do not worry, soon you can enjoy the same rage in randoms with Arm's Race mode and in-game buffs for all your favorite ship you love to play against!

[Conrad_zoo]

I like Epicentre. It's a welcome challenge so once awhile. I will miss it.

[Cyclops_]

Nothing wrong with Epicentre, just that a lot of player base have no idea how to play it.

[AkerJack]

What happens in Epicenter happens also in other modes...

 

But I never liked Epicenter...finally is going away!

[lup3s]

43 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said:

Do not worry, soon you can enjoy the same rage in randoms with Arm's Race mode and in-game buffs for all your favorite ship you love to play against!

 

From the frying pan into the fire 

[300ConfirmedKills]

I miss the original Epicentre where holding the central zone gave control of all of them. That version had a very big incentive to move to the middle of the map.

[ItsEyeJasper]

I don't see why players dislike arms race. It is at least good at breaking up the cycle of the Random Games, i also feel that it challenges players to have more map awareness and forces players to be aggressive late game . Note I preferred Dirigible Derby over every single game more and feel that this mode needs to be featured in Random Battles. Anyways just my opinion.

 

Epicenter i will agree was a load of Blossom Sprinkles. I can't ever recall that i had a game in Epicenter that i found Fun.

[BrusilovX]

35 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said:

Nothing wrong with Epicentre, just that a lot of player base have no idea how to play it.

I agree with this.

 

I presume the OP is not a typical player in that they do push forward and contest the cap?

[SodaBubbles]

36 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

I don't see why players dislike arms race.

 

We dont dislike it, lots of players enjoy it, including me. It's a fun mode.

But it shouldn't be in Randoms where it will distort the statistics. When it was in T9 Ranked a few cycles ago, I routinely turned out 150-200K games in BBs. There's just so much extra damage to get. I think my high was like 270K in Alsace (no stats available, sadly).

It should be a separate game mode that alternates with things like Convoy and Dirigible Derby, or available in Ranked, etc.

[lup3s]

34 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

I don't see why players dislike arms race. It is at least good at breaking up the cycle of the Random Games, i also feel that it challenges players to have more map awareness and forces players to be aggressive late game . Note I preferred Dirigible Derby over every single game more and feel that this mode needs to be featured in Random Battles. Anyways just my opinion.

 

Epicenter i will agree was a load of Blossom Sprinkles. I can't ever recall that i had a game in Epicenter that i found Fun.

 

Because Arms Race is like Randoms with extra gimmicks.

Standard Battles, Domination, and Epicenter already show how "smart" the average player is; do you expect that to change in Arms Race ?

If anything, I found this mode worse than others since, if your team doesn't bother with the buffs, you might as well just yolo-suicide and hope your next battle isn't Arms Race.

(also; healing Subs and healing CVs ? Great idea )

[Cyclops_]

1 hour ago, BrusilovX said:

I agree with this.

 

I presume the OP is not a typical player in that they do push forward and contest the cap?

Loved getting to one of the islands in the centre in my Leander or Fiji and creating havoc from there, DD would not come near and pushing BB got hammered by my torps 

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

Loved getting to one of the islands in the centre in my Leander or Fiji and creating havoc from there, DD would not come near and pushing BB got hammered by my torps 

I'll always get my behind in those circles, no matter what ship I am in. 

Yes even in a CV I will get in there (just a bit later... and in the outside circle... behind an island). 

Too bad they are ditching it. 

[Ronchabale]

I kind of like Epicenter

So it´s getting removed, that is bad

[Miragetank90]

Just rename it to ''Epic-enter''

Perhaps include some flashing lights in mid, a giant floating podium full of dancing girls 

 

Maybe then people would be encouraged get into the circles. 

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 4 Stunden, lup3s sagte:

 

From the frying pan into the fire 

Finally a heal on Harugumo, vampire 2 and F.Sherman...

[Humorpalanta]

4 hours ago, 300ConfirmedKills said:

I miss the original Epicentre where holding the central zone gave control of all of them. That version had a very big incentive to move to the middle of the map.

That was all or nothing and most of the games were decided by the 3rd min. The current one is actually better from gameplay pov and also you can get more capping therefore more exp.

 

If you miss that mode I am pretty sure you miss Forts as well. Same mechanics and same gameplay. Rush in, hope to survive.

[Chaoskraehe]

Vor 5 Stunden, Conrad_zoo sagte:

I like Epicentre. It's a welcome challenge so once awhile. I will miss it.

I hate it, but it's something different so I think it's fine. 

[Verblonde]

45 minutes ago, Chaoskraehe said:

I hate it, but it's something different so I think it's fine. 

This, when I'm thinking rationally; just the first bit when less so...

 

1 hour ago, Khaba_Gandalf said:

Finally a heal on Harugumo, vampire 2 and F.Sherman...

I have a Dreadnought on Gearing thanks to one edition of Arms Race (can't remember which one - it was ages ago); entirely ludicrous, and illustrative of why the mode shouldn't be in Randoms - it'll bugger up the stats of anyone who cares about that sort of thing.

[Chaoskraehe]

Vor 38 Minuten, Verblonde sagte:

I have a Dreadnought on Gearing thanks to one edition of Arms Race (can't remember which one - it was ages ago); entirely ludicrous, and illustrative of why the mode shouldn't be in Randoms - it'll bugger up the stats of anyone who cares about that sort of thing.

The game mode is named random, I think that fits perfectly 

 

With ranked a permanent mode I don't see anything against arms race in random

[Hirohito]

3 hours ago, Verblonde said:

I have a Dreadnought on Gearing thanks to one edition of Arms Race (can't remember which one - it was ages ago); entirely ludicrous, and illustrative of why the mode shouldn't be in Randoms - it'll bugger up the stats of anyone who cares about that sort of thing.

The heal really bugs me to be honest, because while nice for DDs, is just so incredibly strong for BBs, WGs main playerbase.
With enough heals, many of the BBs get an absolutely ludicrous amount of effective health pools, allowing them to get away with all kinds of bad plays.
It's not fun when lighter ships that often rely on the combined dpm from HE and fires (cruisers and DDs) dont really manage to put enough dpm to pressure a BB that also has 3-4 health buffs ticking.
Saw some absolutely dumb games where a 40ish % WR BB player who badly mispositioned could just outtank something like a unicum Smolensk raining constant death and setting multiple permafires on said BB (not arguing for Smolensk buffs here, but you shouldnt be able to tank that as a BB for several minutes straight).