Road to Daring.

[The_Angry_Admiral]

20 minutes ago, _Kokushibo_ said:

There are 3 mandatory skills on every DD: you have only 1 selected. This shows how much you know about the DD gameplay. Yet you're asking the build for a tier 10 DD. It's funny and sad at the same time.

You're willing to spend 3 point on a garbage skill that gives you a 5% MBR increase (<==> 0.1s) and 10% AA increase from something that effectively is ~0 anyway.

Before starting a new thread about "the next important thing" consider watching guides on youtube, following a WOWS streamer (in this example a DD main), looking through the forum topics, reddit etc. Even the outdated wiki can be helpful.

But I do enjoy your posts! Keep spamming them!

 

Notice how everyone else has actually been helpful while you have just been wasting thread space?

[lafeel]

6 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Notice how everyone else has actually been helpful while you have just been wasting thread space?

He does have a point though, if you're not running Last Stand in your DD you're doing it wrong.

[Hirohito]

15 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Notice how everyone else has actually been helpful while you have just been wasting thread space?

Says the guy who spammed multiple threads per week for the purpose of whining.

[The_Angry_Admiral]

18 minutes ago, lafeel said:

He does have a point though, if you're not running Last Stand in your DD you're doing it wrong.

WGAF? Everyone else has been extremely helpful but he has not so no he has no point what so ever. 

[The_Angry_Admiral]

5 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Says the guy who spammed multiple threads per week for the purpose of whining.

Says the only guy in the thread who hasn't said something useful. 

[Panocek]

24 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Notice how everyone else has actually been helpful while you have just been wasting thread space?

Issue is, mistakes like yours with DD build would be understandable if UK DDs would be your first destroyer line ever and you'd be considered "novice" by all metrics... which I don't think it is the case anymore?

[DDG_121]

My Captain.  Level 1 Flood taken because when you get the rest, only one point is left (for a 21 point captain that is).

 

My stats are not bad in it. 125 matches over %60 WR random solo.

 

I take SI mostly for the extra HEAL. 

 

Radio Location, I take almost for every DD.

It is maybe the most important skill because it gives a very very crucial piece of information.

Most of the time it helps you to shoot first and maybe 2 salvoes before your opponent, which i find super important in knife fights (because your guns are already looking at the enemy the second you detect it).

 

[The_Angry_Admiral]

Just now, Panocek said:

Issue is, mistakes like yours with DD build would be understandable if UK DDs would be your first destroyer line ever and you'd be considered "novice" by all metrics... which I don't think it is the case anymore?

No there is no issue. The point is everyone else in this thread has been helpful but of course you have the usual people on here who are basically just a waste of space and this one is part of that group and of course yourself and @lafeel have fallen for the bait. 

[Verblonde]

8 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

he has not so no he has no point what so ever.

Whilst there may be a slight deficit in the tact department, I'm afraid he does have a point: with a very few exceptions, the first ten points on almost any DD should always go on PM, LS, SE, and CE:

 

 

This assumes one is going for 'optimal' rather than some sort of weird 's**ts and giggles' build.

 

 

[The_Angry_Admiral]

Just now, Verblonde said:

Whilst there may be a slight deficit in the tact department, I'm afraid he does have a point: with a very few exceptions, the first ten points on almost any DD should always go on PM, LS, SE, and CE:

 

 

This assumes one is going for 'optimal' rather than some sort of weird 's**ts and giggles' build.

 

 

Here is a bit of advice. I wouldn't contribute anything else but what the actual topic is about. 

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

No there is no issue. The point is everyone else in this thread has been helpful but of course you have the usual people on here who are basically just a waste of space and this one is part of that group and of course yourself and @lafeel have fallen for the bait. 

So, are you saying everyone are wrong by picking Last Stand and Survivability, wasting points on such meaningless bonuses when you can have 5% faster gun reload?

 

Also second part falls under "trolling", which is, if memory serves me right about forum rules, not exactly welcome here?

[Verblonde]

1 minute ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Here is a bit of advice. I wouldn't contribute anything else but what the actual topic is about. 

I'm afraid I must confess myself lost.

 

The 'standard' DD build for the first ten points is exactly what this thread is about...?

[The_Angry_Admiral]

1 minute ago, Panocek said:

So, are you saying everyone are wrong by picking Last Stand and Survivability, wasting points on such meaningless bonuses when you can have 5% faster gun reload?

 

Also second part falls under "trolling", which is, if memory serves me right about forum rules, not exactly welcome here?

Please stop trying to derail this thread and please stop trying to be disingenuous about what I said. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what "I should know and not know" is irrelevant in this thread. Most here have stuck to builds and advice. 

[BrusilovX]

38 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Notice how everyone else has actually been helpful while you have just been wasting thread space?

He's not the only one that has noticed you think thread count is important.  I'm looking forward to you getting bored and stop spamming threads.

[The_Angry_Admiral]

3 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

I'm afraid I must confess myself lost.

 

The 'standard' DD build for the first ten points is exactly what this thread is about...?

You are feeding the trolling going on by mentioning that "I should have known" like that somehow justifies me asking for build advice. 

[The_Angry_Admiral]

Just now, BrusilovX said:

He's not the only one that has noticed you think thread count is important.  I'm looking forward to you getting bored and stop spamming threads.

Who cares what my thread count it? 

 

If I put up a thread and it doesn't interest you then why should you post? 

 

Are you the forum police?

[BrusilovX]

5 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

I'm afraid I must confess myself lost.

The OP thinks they are "special" (if you've not been following the volume of threads they've been creating).

 

Also they think it's their forum.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

6 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

I'm afraid I must confess myself lost.

 

The 'standard' DD build for the first ten points is exactly what this thread is about...?

That is what the thread is about. Moreover, I find it even more surprising that you are to be blamed for ''feeding the trolling'' by offering your advice. You, who is arguably the most gentlemanly poster on this forum.

[BrusilovX]

1 minute ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Who cares what my thread count it? 

I'll give you a hint; it's not the number of threads but the quality of them (and the lack of thought invested before creating them).

[BrusilovX]

Just now, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

That is what the thread is about. Moreover, I find it even more surprising that you are to be blamed for ''feeding the trolling'' by offering your advice. You, who is arguably the most gentlemanly poster on this forum.

I agree with this - the OP is a bit of a simple troll.  They don't like advice that is against what they think.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

2 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

I agree with this - the OP is a bit of a simple troll.  They don't like advice that is against what they think.

I wouldn't even call OP a troll - a troll would at least be self-conscious about how much their claims do not line up with their performance or the advice of respected members of the community with proven skills.

Even more than that, a troll would never offer to fist-fight me over a misplay, which he did at least once...

[Verblonde]

3 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

You are feeding the trolling going on by mentioning that "I should have known" like that somehow justifies me asking for build advice. 

When did I mention that you should have known? I merely said that the poster you seem to have taken exception to had a point about the first ten points on a DD build (which they do).

 

I suggest you resist the urge to get your knickers in a twist at every little thing; not everyone on here has English as a first language, and a certain amount of tact/nuance may not always be present as a result (besides which, many folk don't have time to write long and flowery prose on a forum).

[The_Angry_Admiral]

4 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

I'll give you a hint; it's not the number of threads but the quality of them (and the lack of thought invested before creating them).

Then how about you point me in the direction of the forum rules where it states we have a minimal thread count that we can have?

[Panocek]

4 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

Please stop trying to derail this thread and please stop trying to be disingenuous about what I said. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what "I should know and not know" is irrelevant in this thread. Most here have stuck to builds and advice. 

And you've got few suggestions that make the most sense on UK destroyers. And that also includes "feedback" about few skills being more useful than others on destroyers.

 

6 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

I know exactly what I'm talking about and what "I should know and not know" is irrelevant in this thread.

if yours "I know exactly what I'm talking about" produces gems like your initial destroyer build, I'm not exactly sure I want to know what marvels you will deliver when you're at "I have no idea what I'm doing"

[The_Angry_Admiral]

1 minute ago, Verblonde said:

When did I mention that you should have known? I merely said that the poster you seem to have taken exception to had a point about the first ten points on a DD build (which they do).

 

What you did was help feed the troll. 

 

Why not just stop at the advice builds that have been given like everyone else?