[PETITION & POLL] WG is planning to move "Arms Race" battles into normal gaming (possibly even in upcoming WoWs v0.11.4) - please do not do that !!!

[AraAra_My_Ass_Is_Blasted]

The core issue is that the gamemode isn't ready as of right now. If nothing changed then the AA doesn't get any biffs while CVs get all the buffs (as if they needed that...) for example.

 

And subs are already unbalanced right now so that's just the cherry on top.

 

We'd need AA buffs, hydro buffs and depth charges buffs for it to MAYBE work in Randoms.

 

Or the easy solution would be to not allow CVs, subs and superships in this mode, but they will never do that.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

1 hour ago, Angry_Penguin18 said:

To be clear, I quite like Arms Race (and convoy and Asymetric battles when they worked) but as their own separate game mode. I think they should keep the 3 on rotation to maintain variation - Randoms should be reserved for the standard game. 

 

Exactly!

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Lootboxer]

18 hours ago, mcboernester said:

You can't blame WG that the general playerbase is stupid.

I disagree. This playerbase is effectively outcome of selective breeding by WG. Stupidity is not punished (at least economically) and those are protected often by design.

[1MajorKoenig]

On 4/22/2022 at 11:08 AM, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

CVs and sumbarines can't heal.

 

And they are already 100% broken as they are!

 

And now in "Arms Race" they get to heal and get enhanced performance and weaponary... 

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Well my point was more to not derail your very valid point about arms race with attracting the usual anti-whatever train but to keep this here on point against this incredibly stupid idea to add this sh**tty game mode into randoms. 
 

In any case - I support your petition 

[Chaos_Umbra]

While I think it is good that they are adding more game modes to Randoms, the new Arms Race is only available for tiers 9-11 and at the same time they are removing Epicentre which is available even down at T4. So Tiers 4-8 lose a Game Mode and Tiers 9-11 maintain the same amount. While a lot of people do not like Epicentre the real problem with that game mode is the player base itself as a lot of players seem incapable of understanding what the circles in the centre of the map are for thus leading to 1 team winning in minutes because they get all 3 caps... I prefer Epicentre to Camping Battle (Standard) as it tends to lead to less campy gameplay so if only they players could understand things like objectives it would be a fine mode, and thus removing more variety for most tiers so that only the top 3 get a different game mode is a stupid idea.

[Arrive_Alive]

I don't care, i would rather play Arms Race than Standard Battle. Average players these days are performing like bots and most games are over in 5-8 minutes anyway so who cares about the mode.

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

The game is getting even more ridiculous. 

[GermanBoomercaustEnjoyer]

So for years now ppl non stop [edited] at WG for new modes and somehow when they plan to release after such a long time arms race ppl legit dont want it added? Lmao this community is indeed special...

[Chaos_Umbra]

7 hours ago, Sir_Lawrence42 said:

So for years now ppl non stop [edited] at WG for new modes and somehow when they plan to release after such a long time arms race ppl legit dont want it added? Lmao this community is indeed special...

You missed the point about it only being available for tiers 9 to 11 and that it is replacing the Epicentre mode which is available in tiers 4 to 11, so the number of game modes in tiers 9 to 11 stays the same and tiers 4 to 8 all loose a game mode...

[GermanBoomercaustEnjoyer]

46 minutes ago, Chaos_Umbra said:

You missed the point about it only being available for tiers 9 to 11 and that it is replacing the Epicentre mode which is available in tiers 4 to 11, so the number of game modes in tiers 9 to 11 stays the same and tiers 4 to 8 all loose a game mode...

You miss the point of not even reading OPs vote poll and post to begin with - so long. 

[Chaos_Umbra]

46 minutes ago, Sir_Lawrence42 said:

You miss the point of not even reading OPs vote poll and post to begin with - so long. 

Not really, because while I differ with OP on how it should be added, we agree on that the way it is being added is incorrect, though once again for different reasons.

[Pukovnik7]

On 4/22/2022 at 12:42 PM, Nagine said:

When was the last time WG was universally praised for a decision? I assume the playerbase of this game is not based solely on masochists, so there must be a few reasons why people still play it.

 

Lack of alternative. I was playing World of Warships because nothing similar was available, and finally quit when I concluded that writing a blog is much more fun than engaging in regular masochism.

 

Although my case was worse than average because the bloody game wouldn't work right either.

[SodaBubbles]

3 hours ago, Chaos_Umbra said:

You missed the point about it only being available for tiers 9 to 11 and that it is replacing the Epicentre mode which is available in tiers 4 to 11, so the number of game modes in tiers 9 to 11 stays the same and tiers 4 to 8 all loose a game mode...

 

I missed that. It's even more objectionable than I thought. I am among the minority of players who enjoy Epicenter -- so easy to win, place DD in center and win, or place BB in first ring in map center and crush everything. Loved to see it in Fuso.

It's even more of a middle finger to the player base than I thought.

[B051LjKo]

On 4/22/2022 at 10:04 AM, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

[PETITION] WG is planning to move "Arms Race" battles into normal gaming (possibly even in upcoming WoWs v0.11.4) - please do not do that !!!

 

Leo "Apollo11"

What petition? The only petition they understand is the money... stop giving them money and that is the best message you can sent them.

[ghostbuster_]

Even suggesting (testing) this idea alone shows how disgustingly arrogant they have become. I mean they made it obvious many times over and over again but they never fail to suprise me about how horrible their ideas can get. 

 

I voted no ofc. Still let me tell you whats going to happen:

 

- they are gonna "test" it. (someone has to explain them what testing means btw.)

- they are going to come up with a made up story about how successful the testing was and how badly the "majority" of the playerbase want this idea to be on the the live server. 

- they are going to pretend like they are listening to player feedback while ignoring every single word from players. 

in case you are new around and you dont know wg yet. this here "We will decide on the future of the Arms Race on the live server based on your feedback and statistics after the Public Test of update 0.11.4." is translated like this: "we are going to introduce it, it is already decided, we do not care about your feedback."

- then players are gonna start endless complaints about this after it got into the live server. 

- an endless thread about this going to be started here on forum. 

-  they are gonna thow out some bans on official twitch channel and forums.

- thats it. enjoy the new era in wows. even more arcadey than ever. great, isnt it? 

 

same thing over and over again... 

I said I voted no but actually I want it to get into the live server and I want it to be the failure which is going to cost every single player and every single penny, WG has ever earned. naturally this is not going to happen. but still, its worth to try.

 

So, go for it WG you have my support(!) in this new horrendous idea.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

Lots of answers and entries in the poll - thanks guys!

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Dutchy_2019]

On 4/23/2022 at 11:32 AM, Lootboxer said:

I disagree. This playerbase is effectively outcome of selective breeding by WG. Stupidity is not punished (at least economically) and those are protected often by design.

And as soon as WG tries to introduce something that would punish bad play / player stupidity, people start raging. One only has to look at the threads about the proposed signals / camo rework and its economic consequences. People are now raging that they might need to do well in T8+ to make a credit profit. 

[anonym_t5K2gYZUQnt1]

"Arms Race" sucks, it will make stupid players play much more stupid and ruin the battles much more than now and in epicenter mode.

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

20 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

And as soon as WG tries to introduce something that would punish bad play / player stupidity, people start raging. One only has to look at the threads about the proposed signals / camo rework and its economic consequences. People are now raging that they might need to do well in T8+ to make a credit profit. 

Game is completely doomed with such an incompetent playerbase. It is even worse than a CoD lobby where a bunch of squeekers rage against each other. I actually admire the patience of people to still play this game, being forced to play with team members who are challenged by having to press W key.

[SodaBubbles]

12 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said:

Game is completely doomed with such an incompetent playerbase. It is even worse than a CoD lobby where a bunch of squeekers rage against each other. I actually admire the patience of people to still play this game, being forced to play with team members who are challenged by having to press W key.

 

The problem isn't the competence of the playerbase -- WG has created it. They love an incompetent playerbase, the game is set up to produce it. 

[Yedwy]

44 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

And as soon as WG tries to introduce something that would punish bad play / player stupidity, people start raging. One only has to look at the threads about the proposed signals / camo rework and its economic consequences. People are now raging that they might need to do well in T8+ to make a credit profit. 

And which change woud that be? The near immortal ninja subs or superships?

[shyguybadman]

I don't mind Arms Race, quite fun now and then. I understand people want new game modes. My personal opinion would be that people want Arms Race...but not as part of Random Battles.

 

I really don't want Arms Race in Random Battles. I would be delighted to have it as a permanent alternate battle type.

[lup3s]

9 hours ago, shyguybadman said:

I don't mind Arms Race, quite fun now and then. I understand people want new game modes. My personal opinion would be that people want Arms Race...but not as part of Random Battles.

 

I really don't want Arms Race in Random Battles. I would be delighted to have it as a permanent alternate battle type.

 

This I can fully support.

If i want to play Arms Race, I don't want to end up in Standard Battle or Domination - and vice versa.

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

On 4/26/2022 at 12:29 PM, SodaBubbles said:

The problem isn't the competence of the playerbase -- WG has created it. They love an incompetent playerbase, the game is set up to produce it. 

Exactly, which is a problem for commited players, not for WG of course.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

And they decided to force the "Arms race" onto us... 

 

 

"Update 0.11.4: French Cruisers"

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/update-0114-french-cruisers/

 

Quote

In Update 0.11.4, Arms Race will be introduced into Random and Co-op Battles.

 

The key feature of Arms Race is that special buff areas appear on the map. These provide bonuses to the combat characteristics of all ships on your team.

 

Arms Race will be available only in battles where the highest ship tier is IX or X, as well as in battles with superships. The main matchmaker settings will be similar to those used in Random and Co-op Battles, respectively. Arms Race is for the following eight maps only: Islands of Ice, Sleeping Giant, Warrior’s Path, Mountain Range, Northern Waters, Land of Fire, Hotspot, and Loop.

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"