[GULLY] tadaMonika Players 216 posts 4,726 battles Report post #1 Posted April 15, 2022 I'd like to hear opinions and tips (preferably by people that actually play them) on the various russian tier 10 cruisers. Already got every single one, apart from Smolensk, which truly seems to be the pinncale of napkin soviet engineering, tailored exactly for abusing this games mechanics of overpenetration mechanics for example. The Petro never enticed me, since I do not like to play easy mode, so we can skip that one. Balansgrad and Moskva are both playing quite similarly and are obviously massive targets, that get punished heavily when showing broadside to AP (or in the future possibly missile-armed) ships. They also tend to catch fire way more frequently than the other soviet cruisers. But while I can punish light cruisers like, for example Neptune quite easily with most heavy or even light cruisers like the excellent Nevsky, I do struggle in my Balansgrad and Moskva in particular. I'd also like to know if there are specific must-have signals that let me be more effective in combat for these ships. Juliet Charlie is ofc a no brainer for all Tier 10 ships, but since Wargambling Inc. removed the ability to spec into fire prevention (which hurt these huge russian cruisers the most), I also find myself short on the India Yankee signals and often times find myself slowly cooking to death in these things. Removing fire prevention imho really hurt the combat effectiveness of these large russian cruisers and at this point I really urge Wargambling Inc. to at least rethink their decision. Any opinions and/or tips from veterans? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Lord0 Players 637 posts 5,973 battles Report post #2 Posted April 15, 2022 Moskva? Maybe 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] DreadArchangel Weekend Tester 1,004 posts Report post #3 Posted April 15, 2022 Yeah I would go wi Moskva. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #4 Posted April 15, 2022 Yep Moskva. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #5 Posted April 15, 2022 They raised the freeboard on the Petro, but lowered the one on the Moskva. So clearly Moskva. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #6 Posted April 15, 2022 Petro is overhyped as in, she EXCELS at smashing broadside targets, but the moment you don't have broadsides present and you're forced to use HE, she suddenly feels like tier 5 ship. So she isn't exactly "easy mode", as positioning is thing she lives and dies by, even more than Stalin and Moskva. And since ship raise her citadel seems to be on the same height as Stalingrad, so getting caught broadside isn't advised either. Tips wise... play them slow, steady and methodically, you have guns and range to do so as well armor favoring you in bow on engagements. Any attempt of bravery usually will send you to gulag. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #7 Posted April 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, tadaMonika said: I'd like to hear opinions and tips (preferably by people that actually play them) on the various russian tier 10 cruisers. Already got every single one, apart from Smolensk, which truly seems to be the pinncale of napkin soviet engineering, tailored exactly for abusing this games mechanics of overpenetration mechanics for example. The Petro never enticed me, since I do not like to play easy mode, so we can skip that one. Balansgrad and Moskva are both playing quite similarly and are obviously massive targets, that get punished heavily when showing broadside to AP (or in the future possibly missile-armed) ships. They also tend to catch fire way more frequently than the other soviet cruisers. But while I can punish light cruisers like, for example Neptune quite easily with most heavy or even light cruisers like the excellent Nevsky, I do struggle in my Balansgrad and Moskva in particular. I'd also like to know if there are specific must-have signals that let me be more effective in combat for these ships. Juliet Charlie is ofc a no brainer for all Tier 10 ships, but since Wargambling Inc. removed the ability to spec into fire prevention (which hurt these huge russian cruisers the most), I also find myself short on the India Yankee signals and often times find myself slowly cooking to death in these things. Removing fire prevention imho really hurt the combat effectiveness of these large russian cruisers and at this point I really urge Wargambling Inc. to at least rethink their decision. Any opinions and/or tips from veterans? Going by you post im not really surewhat you are after. Have experience in all but Stalingrad but thats just another version of Petro that you dont like. My take is: Smolensk: OP A-F firestarter can chanse outcome of games Nevski: Decent ship with AA, radar etc, not that great at damage farming. If I wanna farm damage I rather take Smol or Hinden. Moskva, pretty crap and a worse Perto Stalin in all ways, a damage pinata at most. Stalin: seems pretty OP with AP pen, one of the ships that can punish my damage farming Hinden at max range. For signals I go for the standards: Fire duration, max HP regen, AA. Not sure this helped but it seems like you already counted out all the best ones. Petro is probably even after its latest "nerf" the most OP and after that Smol. Nevski is great att killing DDs at caps and decent against cruisers but my experience pretty crap against armored BBs, then my Hinden has way better pen and fires (played these to a lot for comparison). 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #8 Posted April 15, 2022 Popular opinion is Moskva clearly! 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escaam Players 76 posts 13,666 battles Report post #9 Posted April 15, 2022 Moskva is clearly the talk of the day. 3 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #10 Posted April 15, 2022 Moskva seems to have been enjoying an explicable resurgence in popularity lately. Can't understand why, mine just keeps sinking. Yes, Juliet Charlie goes without saying. Aleksander Nevsky seemed alright to me, but I'm not much of a cruiser player. I'm currently on the abysmal t9 Riga, grinding for Petropavlovsk. Shouldn't that ship be part of the Kazakstan navy, though? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DSF] Arakus Beta Tester 1,541 posts 7,511 battles Report post #11 Posted April 15, 2022 Moskva, because it was a special ship on a special mission. 4 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #12 Posted April 15, 2022 Moskva, but make sure to equip damage control upgrades for fire prevention, I heard she catches fire pretty fast. Also you might slot the rudder shift upgrade as she does not handle very nimble, especially during storms. 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #13 Posted April 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Moskva seems to have been enjoying an explicable resurgence in popularity lately. Can't understand why, mine just keeps sinking. Yeah well what can I say.... Clearly I do much better in other cruisers, just see this randomly chosen example! edit: yes its my real stats, but remember no statshaming! I could be hurt deep in my heart... 2 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #14 Posted April 15, 2022 Petro. I know it doesnt entice you, but its still the answer to the question. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #15 Posted April 15, 2022 Also, I don't care what some elitist says: you need Incoming Fire Alert on the Moskva! 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #16 Posted April 15, 2022 Moskva was better when it had fire prevention. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #17 Posted April 15, 2022 4 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GULLY] tadaMonika Players 216 posts 4,726 battles Report post #18 Posted April 15, 2022 48 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said: Moskva, but make sure to equip damage control upgrades for fire prevention, I heard she catches fire pretty fast. Also you might slot the rudder shift upgrade as she does not handle very nimble, especially during storms. Absolutely. Sound advice. I struggle to avoid incoming damage as it is, so might as well take damage control upgrades to not let the fire damage get out of hand. Thank you all for the great advice, much appreciated 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] DDG_121 Players 791 posts 10,936 battles Report post #19 Posted April 15, 2022 You guys are mean. :) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #20 Posted April 15, 2022 For me the Stalingrad has a special place. The concealment is horrible, manuverability awful and if misplayed you get deleted. But the guns are just amazing and carry this ship for me. I think you will struggle to find a more complete package when it comes to gun power. Moskva is a good allrounder, has looked better though. Petro is the most boring ship ever made. Then the Nevsky. Honestly I quite like the Nevsky, pretty fast, good amount of HP, good firestarter and magic AP. I enjoy it and would say it is arguably the more interesting option of the 2 avaliable. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #21 Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, tadaMonika said: Absolutely. Sound advice. I struggle to avoid incoming damage as it is, so might as well take damage control upgrades to not let the fire damage get out of hand. Fires might be a problem, but don't worry: next patch Moskva is going to have a fully-submerged citadel. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #22 Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, tocqueville8 said: Fires might be a problem, but don't worry: next patch Moskva is going to have a fully-submerged citadel. I have the feeling that comes with full immunity to fire. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUPID] TruePhoenix Players 266 posts 12,721 battles Report post #23 Posted April 15, 2022 Stalingrad. Mods, close the thread. 3 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #24 Posted April 16, 2022 Lighthouse build Stalingrad, its hilarious, at least in randoms… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #25 Posted April 16, 2022 7 hours ago, TruePhoenix said: Stalingrad. Mods, close the thread. Why?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites