How on Earth can such MM be allowed in brawl (whole enemy team = 1 DIV, plus CV, from same 2 clans) ?

[Leo_Apollo11]

HI all,

 

How on Earth can such MM be allowed in brawl?

 

Whole enemy team = 1 DIV (plus CV) from same 2 clans...

 

 

 

And yes...

 

 

 

@MrConway

@YabbaCoe

@Seraphice

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

That is the purpose of brawls. To let premade teams go to battle. You mess with them on your own volition.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

3 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

That is the purpose of brawls. To let premade teams go to battle. You mess with them on your own volition.

 

The basic premise of the brawl (when there were smaller teams) was OK and it was adhered (I played each and every one):

 

 

"Brawls in Update 0.11.3: Round 1"

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/brawls-in-0113/

 

 

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Players are matched based on their skill level.

 

 

But how was that in my game?

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

 

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

5 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

But how was that in my game?

Your team had - on average - 3k account battles more than the opposing team, so you had a vast advantage in experience. You should have won quite easily!

[tocqueville8]

 

1st Brawl today 

 

I guess putting 1 mega-div vs 1 mega-div (or no div vs no div) is too much to ask. Not that it mattered much here...

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

Another case of this ridiculousness - this time 3 different clans in save DIV:

 

 

 

 

WG, you MUST remove this MEGA "Clan War" DIVs !!!

 

@MrConway

@YabbaCoe

@Seraphice

 

  

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

52 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

But how was that in my game?

Please tell me your and the enemies skill level.

 

They also wrote this: "Team up with friends to win more battles!"

[Miscommunication_dept]

Full division teams?!

So clan battles against randoms?

glad the rewards are poor

[Leo_Apollo11]

HI all,

 

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

Please tell me your and the enemies skill level.

 

You can see it in the screen in opening post...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

HI all,

 

 

You can see it in the screen in opening post...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

What is the skill there?

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

Just now, ColonelPete said:

What is the skill there?

 

Overall player Account victory level (plus color coded background) together with selected shop WinRate - the "Brawl" skill can't be that far off...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

 

 

[SeaWolf7]

2 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

Another case of this ridiculousness - this time 3 different clans in save DIV:

 

 

 

 

WG, you MUST remove this MEGA "Clan War" DIVs !!!

 

@MrConway

@YabbaCoe

@Seraphice

 

  

Leo "Apollo11"

The fact that you can also have 1 cv sided teams ( no CV on the other) makes me think something is not working as intended surely?...Or has this always been the case with Brawl? In which case very poor design ...

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

1 minute ago, SeaWolf7 said:

The fact that you can also have 1 cv sided teams ( no CV on the other) makes me think something is not working as intended surely?...Or has this always been the case with Brawl? In which case very poor design ...

 

The "Brawl" always allowed asymmetry and DIVs - but 9 man full DIV = "Clan Battle"...

 

BTW, in previous seasons where there was 3 vs. 3 having CV on one side usually meant weakness!

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

11 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

Overall player Account victory level (plus color coded background) together with selected shop WinRate - the "Brawl" skill can't be that far off...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

You have two unknowns on your team, so the overall winrate does not say much. Especially the color coding has absolutly nothing to do with the game.

And it would be a first if WG used account winrating, which they obviously do not, considering other screenshots from Brawls.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

Just now, ColonelPete said:

You have two unknowns on your team, so the overall winrate does not say much. Especially the color coding has absolutly nothing to do with the game.

And it would be a first if WG used account winrating, which they obviously do not, considering other screenshots from Brawls.

 

WG confirmed that in the "Brawl" the "Skill Level" is the "Brawl Skill Level"... but that can't be way off from overall account WinRate and ship WinRate (because bad player is bad player) - insn't it?

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

WG confirmed that in the "Brawl" the "Skill Level" is the "Brawl Skill Level"... but that can't be way off from overall account WinRate and ship WinRate (because bad player is bad player) - insn't it?

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Yes, it can.

It could be a Team Elo-Rating, which would be pretty useless for Random Teams, it could be number of wins in the current Brawl, which some players suspect. We just do not know for sure.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

Yes, it can.

It could be a Team Elo-Rating, which would be pretty useless for Random Teams, it could be number of wins in the current Brawl, which some players suspect. We just do not know for sure.

 

I deliberately asked the last time around and WG confirmed that the "Brawl Skill Level" is really player's stats in the past brawls...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

I deliberately asked the last time around and WG confirmed that the "Brawl Skill Level" is really player's stats in the past brawls...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

What stats?

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

What stats?

 

WinRate - what else WG uses!

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[WildWind84]

13 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

I deliberately asked the last time around and WG confirmed that the "Brawl Skill Level" is really player's stats in the past brawls...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

OK, do you know how I can checked mine in brawls? Tnx. BTW. also have constantly same thing like screenshots - my team with 1 division or without divisions, other side whole or almost whole in divisions, but other clan/clans was in my battle (haven't MM so haven't clue about that part). And my clan is practicaly dead so...

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

Just now, WildWind84 said:

 

OK, do you know how I can checked mine? Tnx. BTW. also have constantly same thing like screenshots - my team with 1 division or without divisions, other side whole or almost whole in divisions, but other clan/clans was in my battle (haven't MM so haven't clue about that part). And my clan is practicaly dead so...

 

Unfortunately not... WG API is broken for long long time... the WoWS stats sites can't get that data and the "MatchMaking Monitor" and "Potato Alert" can't get it either...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

WinRate - what else WG uses!

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Then why did you refer us to the account and ship winratings, if you knew that WG uses Brawl Winratings?

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Then why did you refer us to the account and ship winratings, if you knew that WG uses Brawl Winratings?

 

Again:

 

Because that can't be way off from overall account WinRate and ship WinRate (bad player is bad player) - isn't it?

 

There is no "miraculous" case where all 45% overall WinRate players that have 40% WinRate in specific ship have great "Brawl" WinRate...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

Again:

 

Because that can't be way off from overall account WinRate and ship WinRate (bad player is bad player) - isn't it?

  

 

Leo "Apollo11"

It can, alot.

Team Size and Tier are changed often.

Some people did not play Brawl before or only a few battles. Others play Brawls only in divisions.

Some people use different ships and so on.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

6 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

It can, alot.

Team Size and Tier are changed often.

Some people did not play Brawl before or only a few battles. Others play Brawls only in divisions.

Some people use different ships and so on.

 

Good player is good player!

 

Bad player is bad player!

 

You can check that in "Random" vs. "Ranked" stats (the WG API still works for that)...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"