bit desperate ?

[SilentEnimLegesInterArma]

Apparently T11 is not the hit they want it to be

[PeteEarthling]

A supercontainer for 50something million credits and some hours of labor... seriously? ^^

[________________Morrison]

The greatest reward is found on your pc itself uninstall the game, its free its quick, its cheap. Can't beat that. Instant statisfaction

[MoveZig]

If WG want me to go out of my way to play superships with a prohibitive economy, they shouldn't (mostly) be souped-up versions of t10 ships. Give me something unique and not just a retooled MBRB. The jet planes on the super-CVs are a good start, though I don't play high-tier CVs.

[SilentEnimLegesInterArma]

33 minutes ago, MoveZig said:

If WG want me to go out of my way to play superships with a prohibitive economy, they shouldn't (mostly) be souped-up versions of t10 ships. Give me something unique and not just a retooled MBRB. The jet planes on the super-CVs are a good start, though I don't play high-tier CVs.

do not! I repeat! DO NOT! give them CV ideas

[Andrewbassg]

So... against my better judgement I brought one. Then I played 1 coop, I didn't test them  during the rental period.

 

 

 

Ouch...... thanks but no thanks...

[Kruzenstern]

Ouch... So Superships even discriminate PvE players....

[Andrewbassg]

4 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said:

Ouch... So Superships even discriminate PvE players....

Not only that but actually pushes people to play em in PvP...

[Panocek]

5 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said:

Ouch... So Superships even discriminate PvE players....

Just whale harder, whats the issue

[tocqueville8]

Question 1: Will these things give supercontainers & snowflakes for anniversary & Christmas?

 

Question 2: If they do, will that replace T10 rewards, or add to it?

 

Has WG announced anything on the subject?

[ReDiR20]

3 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

Question 1: Will these things give supercontainers & snowflakes for anniversary & Christmas?

 

Question 2: If they do, will that replace T10 rewards, or add to it?

 

Has WG announced anything on the subject?

 

Pretty sure they will not reveal that until September... 

 

My guess is 2 Supercontainers for Superships

[Panocek]

3 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

Question 1: Will these things give supercontainers & snowflakes for anniversary & Christmas?

 

Question 2: If they do, will that replace T10 rewards, or add to it?

 

Has WG announced anything on the subject?

Nothing official, but its not hard to guess supershits will replace T10 rewards, or at least T10 ones will be diminished in favor of supershits

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

4 hours ago, SilentEnimLegesInterArma said:

Apparently T11 is not the hit they want it to be

Did you expect anything else? @Seraphice even had the audacity to say high maintenance costs should prevent super ship spamming, when in fact the game gets more and more directed to a new meta of super ships. Sure they want you to play them. Sure they want players to burn credits like there is no tomorrow because they have failed with their tier X economy. Expect more and more incentives to play tier XI. GG, WG, GG.

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, Andrewbassg said:

So... against my better judgement I brought one. Then I played 1 coop, I didn't test them  during the rental period.

 

 

 

Ouch...... thanks but no thanks...

A reminder for the old lags: if you have any of the old 'For meritorious service' cammo (now unavailable), it's well worth saving them for supership use - if you have any interest - due to the 50% off service cost (it also boosts credit earnings too).

 

A single data point, but I emerged from an entirely awful Coop game in Yamigiri earlier slightly in the black, using this cammo. That was running premium account, no signals, and doing very little damage (one kill with guns, and I somehow managed not to get a single torp hit!) - the sort of battle I would expect to lose credits in if playing a silver T9 with permaflage.

[HassenderZerhacker]

5 hours ago, SilentEnimLegesInterArma said:

Apparently T11 is not the hit they want it to be

 

WANTED : cannon fodder for paying customers to shoot at.

[Andrewbassg]

31 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

A reminder for the old lags: if you have any of the old 'For meritorious service' cammo (now unavailable), it's well worth saving them for supership use - if you have any interest - due to the 50% off service cost (it also boosts credit earnings too).

 

A single data point, but I emerged from an entirely awful Coop game in Yamigiri earlier slightly in the black, using this cammo. That was running premium account, no signals, and doing very little damage (one kill with guns, and I somehow managed not to get a single torp hit!) - the sort of battle I would expect to lose credits in if playing a silver T9 with permaflage.

Good tip!  It seems that I have 25 of those..

[Panocek]

34 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

A reminder for the old lags: if you have any of the old 'For meritorious service' cammo (now unavailable), it's well worth saving them for supership use - if you have any interest - due to the 50% off service cost (it also boosts credit earnings too).

I haven't used any of these, which resulted in... 176 cans of white paint. And then almost 600 signals reducing post battle maintenance, as I've used these on T10 mostly.

 

That said, I don't have credits to afford supershits nor I have interest to grind them. Especially as only supershit I'd be interested in is Zorkiy, as echo of old Khaba. Getting captain wouldn't be an issue as Delny is entirely forgettable ship

[Verblonde]

7 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

It seems that I have 25 of those.

I seem to have a little north of fifty - mainly due to repeatedly forgetting I have them (it helps too that, because I'm an idiot, rather a lot of my high tier ships have permaflage)...

 

So, we have an easy (albeit with a sort-of 'use by' date) way to stop the superships being a credit sink; after work, I'll do some testing with credit-boosting cammo in Randoms, and see what sort of impact that has...

[Verblonde]

2 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Getting captain wouldn't be an issue as Delny is entirely forgettable ship

I did something vaguely similar for Super-Shima: I had a 20-point Suzuki (? - one of the IJN brothers with boosted SE) which I'd earmarked for Shima if I ever needed a decent captain on her; he's now assigned to Yamagiri (with torp build - I'd mainly been using him for torp premiums previously)...

[Jethro_Grey]

7 hours ago, SilentEnimLegesInterArma said:

Apparently T11 is not the hit they want it to be

Considering the fact that every coop game has 2-3 of them, i'd beg to differ. 

 

I should check the premium store, cause at this point i am fairly certain, the credit packages have been sold out.

[FukushuNL]

6 hours ago, ____________Intermission said:

The greatest reward is found on your pc itself uninstall the game, its free its quick, its cheap. Can't beat that. Instant statisfaction

Amen! Such a list of awesome games out there that do honor their playerbase.

[Verblonde]

FWIW here are some results screens from a victory in Randoms, running the stripey credit-boosting cammo, but no economic signals:

 

Front page:

 

Spoiler

 

My bit of the team page:

Spoiler

 

Detail page:

 

Spoiler

 

Credits and XP (with credit detail opened):

 

Spoiler

 

 

So, not a bad battle for me, with reasonable damage (albeit mostly done to lower tiers) and 16 planes shot down:

• You'll note I completed a mission of some sort, which earned 200,000 silver.
• Without that mission, I would have been 30,548 in the black (without the Ocean Soul, I'd have been in the red to the tune of 39-40K).

Since I can't rely on doing that much damage every battle (I'm one of the weaker players on the forum), not losing lots of silver with this thing is probably going to require consistent credit-boosting economic signal/cammo use, if For Meritorious Service isn't available.

 

That sounds about right, given what we know about the intended economy of superships, but it does mean I may actually play this thing now and again - she's more fun than Shima, even if you have to work harder to justify your slot.

 

[Yedwy]

6 hours ago, SilentEnimLegesInterArma said:

do not! I repeat! DO NOT! give them CV ideas

Hate to break it 2 you m8 but super cvs already have jets… 

 

BTW I suspect premium, that 20% income camo in armory for coal and a zulu flag also for coal should make breaking even or earning a slight profit an easy enough task…

[SilentEnimLegesInterArma]

Seems Tier11 is Step 1 to the "enhanced" economy rework they already teased (shocked us with) a cpl of weeks back...

With the signals gone, expect credit sales being pushed from cashshop

 

 

looks like it will be a "glorious win" like the CV or Captains rework.

[Hirohito]

6 hours ago, Von_Pruss said:

Did you expect anything else? @Seraphice even had the audacity to say high maintenance costs should prevent super ship spamming, when in fact the game gets more and more directed to a new meta of super ships. Sure they want you to play them. Sure they want players to burn credits like there is no tomorrow because they have failed with their tier X economy. Expect more and more incentives to play tier XI. GG, WG, GG.

This is what annoys me with the super ships being T11.

They could have just overhauled the T10 economy, and taken the inevitable community outcry like a man.
Instead of taking it like a man and getting it over with, they try to fool the community by introducing something that isn't called T11 but instead "super ships", trying to make it less obvious to players at first glance and giving these T11 superships the bad economy they wanted T10 ships to have.

Now what they might have hoped to achieve with this is minimize the outcry and perhaps even get some people excited for new boats to play with.
Personally however, I could have lived with you making the economy worse for T10s again, but what I will definitely not accept is you power creeping all my hard earned T10s and making them obsolete by introducing T11 ships.

So in my case, you just lost a customer by that scummy move, so congratulations with that WG.
I can live with CVs and I can live with subs, but you do not mess with my T10s.

F**king free to play companies and their constant chase for short term gains over long-term sustainability.