Wargaming really just doesn't get it.

[The_Angry_Admiral]

@YabbaCoe

 

Superships are still overpowered and your company pushes them through anyway so now Tier X is infested with them making that Tier even more of a cesspit. Did you not think these things needed to be taken and tested again or given their own mode? They don't fit in even with Tier X and on top of that Tier VIII ships have to go up against them. These ships are so lopsided in their power that having one on your team that is used by a complete potato versus one of the enemy team who has just a few brain cells can make a big difference as to which team will win. Most of these jacket potatoes don't use camo or anything so they probably have tons of credits so they go and buy one. Already seeing people with WR in the 30's using them. 

 

How much more of a train wreck does this game need to get before WG realises it's going to implode on itself? How did Wargaming come to the conclusion Superships were ready to be introduced and why can't I have some kind of filter that will allow me to not play with them?

[hellhound666]

11 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

@YabbaCoe

i dont think he is the right target for these questions ...

does anybody know who is head of wows in eu?

[Panocek]

Supershits are purposefully overpowered to convince players to get them, as well premium ships/accounts to sustain them.

 

Its not a bug, its a feature.

[ReDiR20]

They are basically T11, so they should be better than T10. Is that so hard to understand?

[CapnGebs]

What Superships? :) Mid-tier continues to look more and more like a more fun experience than top tier.

[S_h_i_v_a]

Did anyone note that Dockyard event can be done ONLY with supercraps?

 

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

1 minute ago, S_h_i_v_a said:

Did anyone note that Dockyard event can be done ONLY with supercraps?

 

Tier V-X and Super Ships. As it is shown.

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Vor 38 Minuten, The_Angry_Admiral sagte:

and on top of that Tier VIII ships have to go up against them

T8 can NOT go against superships (unless in a fail division). Superships are effectively matched as T11.

 

Vor 2 Minuten, S_h_i_v_a sagte:

Did anyone note that Dockyard event can be done ONLY with supercraps?

 

It says V-X there, doesn't it?

[The_Angry_Admiral]

25 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Supershits are purposefully overpowered to convince players to get them, as well premium ships/accounts to sustain them.

 

Its not a bug, its a feature.

Just had some dope with a 42% WR bragging about spending 40+ million credits on the United States CV and finished at the bottom. 

[FooFaFie]

But tier 8 is now better.  I hope.

 

 

[Procrastes]

5 hours ago, S_h_i_v_a said:

Did anyone note that Dockyard event can be done ONLY with supercraps?

After the Puerto Rico debacle, I have - with two exceptions - ignored the Dockyard events due to a lingering bad smell around the whole area. The Dockyard smells too much of greed and unethical sale strategies for me to go anywhere near it. If it can now only be accessed with superships - another feature that I frankly don't give a fig about - it is just one more reason for me to stay away, I guess.

 

Edit: Ok, I have now read through the intervening posts. The Dockyard can apparently be accessed not only with superships, but with ships of tiers V-X as well (?). Fine, but whatever. It doesn't make much of a difference to me, honestly.

[humpty_1]

tbh i have more of a problem with bloody subs then superships...

[Panocek]

36 minutes ago, ReDiR20 said:

They are basically T11, so they should be better than T10. Is that so hard to understand?

Actual ships are better and I'm fine with it - Des Moines with 4th turret, Conde packing quad turrets instead triples, both are somewhat in line with their nations - US and their "lets put 4th turret" and "we have some expertise with quad turrets, lets go with that". Zorkiy fixes two biggest Khaba issues while Satsuma/Hannover are just someone wet dreams. Yamagiri is still dumb overkill by putting sextuple launchers, but guns are major improvement.

 

Issue lies with their bs gimmicks, these ships would be more than fine without them.

[Mrs_Ragdoll]

Just found out that clan discount bonus doesn't apply to these super ships as well, which is lame imo. It applies to all 200+ ships in the tech tree but not for super ships, easy money..... not nice for us customers, they are already expensive enough.

[________________Morrison]

1 hour ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

@YabbaCoe

 

Superships are still overpowered and your company pushes them through anyway so now Tier X is infested with them making that Tier even more of a cesspit. Did you not think these things needed to be taken and tested again or given their own mode? They don't fit in even with Tier X and on top of that Tier VIII ships have to go up against them. These ships are so lopsided in their power that having one on your team that is used by a complete potato versus one of the enemy team who has just a few brain cells can make a big difference as to which team will win. Most of these jacket potatoes don't use camo or anything so they probably have tons of credits so they go and buy one. Already seeing people with WR in the 30's using them. 

 

How much more of a train wreck does this game need to get before WG realises it's going to implode on itself? How did Wargaming come to the conclusion Superships were ready to be introduced and why can't I have some kind of filter that will allow me to not play with them?

You take it to feel good, because you feel bad

 

This game is like crack, you play it to enjoy it.

 

Maybe you should turn to another game if you don't enjoy it :)

 

WG isn't gonna listen

The spreadsheets still function. It's all that matters.

 

IF you want to play without Super ships, we offer operations and Savage battle. Have fun drowning in pain otherwise

[Panocek]

3 minutes ago, Mrs_Ragdoll said:

Just found out that clan discount bonus doesn't apply to these super ships as well, which is lame imo. It applies to all 200+ ships in the tech tree but not for super ships, easy money..... not nice for us customers, they are already expensive enough.

Obviously, 10%? 15%? discount off 45mil gets actually noticeable and WG doesn't want that

[________________Morrison]

3 minutes ago, Mrs_Ragdoll said:

Just found out that clan discount bonus doesn't apply to these super ships as well, which is lame imo. It applies to all 200+ ships in the tech tree but not for super ships, easy money..... not nice for us customers, they are already expensive enough.

Look cheese head, you get taxed by playing something spechul.

 

If you had enough credits to buy  a SS you shouldn't be complaining about credit loss.

 

Always make sure you have double the amount of resources in these kinds of games before investing.

 

You're dutch you should know about greed.

[Procrastes]

2 hours ago, humpty_1 said:

tbh i have more of a problem with bloody subs then superships...

Me, too.

 

I can spot the superships. I can shoot the superships. I can sink the superships, and the fact that they can ram me and sink me without necessarily sinking themselves doesn't come across as some kind of sick joke.

 

Superships can't make themselves immune to radar, or hydro, or gunfire, and they typically don't suddenly appear from below and shotgun me in the face with homing torpedoes.

 

Compared to subs, superships are the nice new kids on the block.

[tue1a]

18 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

Me, too.

 

I can spot the superships. I can shoot the superships. I can sink the superships, and the fact that they can ram me and sink me without necessarily sinking themselves doesn't come across as some kind of sick joke.

 

Superships can't make themselves immune to radar, or hydro, or gunfire, and they typically don't suddenly appear from below and shotgun me in the face with homing torpedoes.

 

Compared to subs, superships are the nice new kids on the block.

The eagle is just [edited] squared, everything that makes a t10 CV horrible then made 10 times better, without any real weakneses

 

[Mrs_Ragdoll]

2 hours ago, ____________Intermission said:

Look cheese head, you get taxed by playing something spechul.

 

If you had enough credits to buy  a SS you shouldn't be complaining about credit loss.

 

Always make sure you have double the amount of resources in these kinds of games before investing.

 

You're dutch you should know about greed.

lol

 

It's not about the credits itself alone, it's about the fact that it's inconsistant and plain obvious cash grab and no logic besides the fact that they want to milk everyone by buying these most expensive ships for the full price only. Else there wouldn't be that clan discount on all those other 200+ ships. And so because I'm Dutch I'm a cheap [edited]? talk about assumptions and prejudices. Maybe you should take a look at my profile at wows numbers and count how many premium ships I have plus Premium time for 6.5 years and every year about 200 euro's on Santa crates. Yes I'm a whale and I'm Dutch, how is it possible! And I barely have enough credits to buy 1 SS since I grind all ships in the game so yeah 8.3 million discount we could get like all other ships (15%) is significant for me.

[Procrastes]

On 4/14/2022 at 1:39 PM, tue1a said:

The eagle is just [edited] squared, everything that makes a t10 CV horrible then made 10 times better, without any real weakneses

Ok, that figures. I wasn't really thinking of the supercarriers, I was thinking of the "normal" surface ships. CV:s are a badly designed class to begin with, mostly because their ability to spot anyone anywhere without cost to themselves and with no real counter, makes a mockery of the tactical element that forms the basis of the gameplay for every other class in the game. It's only to be expected that super carriers take this toxic element to the extreme, and become super toxic. And the sad part of the story is, that Wargming are perfectly aware of this. They have done all of this deliberately.

 

I wonder what we can expect to see in the form of super submarines? Because short of Wargaming going bankrupt or otherwise deciding to close shop, I'd wager that we are going to see super subs in the game within a year from now.

[Andrewbassg]

4 hours ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

How much more of a train wreck does this game need to get before WG realises it's going to implode on itself? How did Wargaming come to the conclusion Superships were ready to be introduced and why can't I have some kind of filter that will allow me to not play with them?

Oh.........don't forget about ranked. If clan battles will feature them, how long till ranked too? I predict next season with the added line that ' oh come on guys you seriously think that we forget about you? It is just natural evolution...."

[JohnnieK13]

36 minutes ago, Mrs_Ragdoll said:

lol

 

It's not about the credits itself alone, it's about the fact that it's inconsistant and plain obvious cash grab and no logic besides the fact that they want to milk everyone by buying these most expensive ships for the full price only. Else there wouldn't be that clan discount on all those other 200+ ships. And so because I'm Dutch I'm a cheap [edited]? talk about assumptions and prejudices. Maybe you should take a look at my profile at wows numbers and count how many premium ships I have plus Premium time for 6.5 years and every year about 200 euro's on Santa crates. Yes I'm a whale and I'm Dutch, how is it possible! And I barely have enough credits to buy 1 SS since I grind all ships in the game so yeah 8.3 million discount we could get like all other ships (15%) is significant for me.

We do not need to see your profile, WG did. And WG made SS for you. You will buy all of them even if you do not use them. And 360K service cost will be a bonus profit for them each time u use one. 

[humpty_1]

21 hours ago, Procrastes said:

Me, too.

 

I can spot the superships. I can shoot the superships. I can sink the superships, and the fact that they can ram me and sink me without necessarily sinking themselves doesn't come across as some kind of sick joke.

 

Superships can't make themselves immune to radar, or hydro, or gunfire, and they typically don't suddenly appear from below and shotgun me in the face with homing torpedoes.

 

Compared to subs, superships are the nice new kids on the block.

i must clarify just one thing, i'm refering to ships boats not cvs. they are just as bad as subs tbh... even more so the new t11 ones omg...

 

[Asatori]

Superships marks the conversion of this game from free-to-play to a pay-to-win game :/