Has there ever been a Poll to remove CV or a random game mode without CV

[AllterEg0]

Ok i do not think i am alone but has there been a recent poll  (6 months) to keep or remove CV or instead add a random game mode without CV?

 

I mean  virtually everyone hates them.  Most agree battles would be better without them, and we all just end up reporting every CV in game because we have no other way of showing our frustration that we are not listened to when it comes to CVs.  

 

Because i know some like them and some have spent a lot of time invested in them that would be unfair to lose. I think  a random game mode without CV would be better or for us.  or even better option is to just click something to avoid battles with CV.  That then makes us wait longer for a match which i would be happy with.  That way CV players are not affected, but allows those of us who hate them to enjoy a game without them.  Adding the simple tick box to game settings is a very easy thing to to.

 

thoughts?

[NewHorizons_1]

1 hour ago, AllterEg0 said:

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thoughts?

Bad timing mate. You've definitely missed the (U) boat.

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

anything will make my life without cv i am going to support it ... giving you my vote .

[SkipperCH]

No there hasn't been and probably won't be. And to be honest - I like CV's. Both sides. Playing one and having one as an enemy. Same goes for subs. My opinion might not be popular but it is how it is^^

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

3 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

No there hasn't been and probably won't be. And to be honest - I like CV's. Both sides. Playing one and having one as an enemy. Same goes for subs. My opinion might not be popular but it is how it is^^

so you like attacking someone who cannot fight back ?

 

 

interesting ...

[SkipperCH]

Like I said - I have no problems with fighting on both sides. Deplaning a CV that is trying with all force to sink me or bringing a DD to the edge of insanity by blind dropping him in his smoke. Same with subs. If someone feels the need to clear a ping asap, and still is heading towards me I will wait, ping again fire and dive. And the other way around.. A sub that is playing offensive is usually bound to get spotted and yeeted. 

[BanzaiPiluso]

2 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

Like I said - I have no problems with fighting on both sides. Deplaning a CV that is trying with all force to sink me or bringing a DD to the edge of insanity by blind dropping him in his smoke. Same with subs. If someone feels the need to clear a ping asap, and still is heading towards me I will wait, ping again fire and dive. And the other way around.. A sub that is playing offensive is usually bound to get spotted and yeeted. 

 

[HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS]

7 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

Deplaning a CV that is trying with all force to sink me

Please, try to deplane a CV (or 2 of them, because they appear to occur in pairs more often than not) with the mighty AA cruiser Yubari, which is advertised by WG to be one of the best AA ships at T4.

[Andrewbassg]

9 hours ago, AllterEg0 said:

Ok i do not think i am alone but has there been a recent poll  (60 months) to keep or remove CV or instead add a random game mode without CV?

Well OP.....given the fact that discussions related to Cv's where until recently quite arguably actively censored.( for various reasons),  you will not find polls on them.

[SodaBubbles]

9 hours ago, AllterEg0 said:

Ok i d

 

 

thoughts?

 

WG has never asked any tough questions about CVs. They are integral to WG's business model of spamming games and getting players back in the queue as quickly as possible. They have claimed in the past that the number 1 complaint players have in exit surveys is queue times. I sincerely doubt that, since I have known 00s of players who have left the game but not one over that reason, but that is what they have said.

CVs address this by inflicting pointless arbitrary damage that (1) speeds up games overall and (2) puts players back in the queue quickly by killing them more rapidly. They have no "game" or "fun" purpose for being there, they exist only to make money for WG in this fashion. The rework CVs are even better at it, since any fool can play them and get damage -- they are purely griefing mechanics.

 

Hence there will never be a valid survey of the playerbase by WG on CVs. They have tacitly admitted how much damage CVs do to the game by banning them from several competitive modes, however. Obviously they know what a crap playing environment they have fostered for the original awesome core game.

 

[ihan_paras_nimi]

The heyday of the game started when rts CVs were removed. It ended when CVs were reintroduced. It's been constant downhill since.

They could introduce "surface ships only" randoms as an alternative mode. Finally WG would see the true opinion of the "silent majority". Only one patch would be enough.

I'd wager 95% of players would avoid facing CVs and subs. For that reason it will not happen.

[Twist]

2 hours ago, SodaBubbles said:

 

WG has never asked any tough questions about CVs. They are integral to WG's business model of spamming games and getting players back in the queue as quickly as possible. They have claimed in the past that the number 1 complaint players have in exit surveys is queue times. I sincerely doubt that, since I have known 00s of players who have left the game but not one over that reason, but that is what they have said.

CVs address this by inflicting pointless arbitrary damage that (1) speeds up games overall and (2) puts players back in the queue quickly by killing them more rapidly. They have no "game" or "fun" purpose for being there, they exist only to make money for WG in this fashion. The rework CVs are even better at it, since any fool can play them and get damage -- they are purely griefing mechanics.

 

Hence there will never be a valid survey of the playerbase by WG on CVs. They have tacitly admitted how much damage CVs do to the game by banning them from several competitive modes, however. Obviously they know what a crap playing environment they have fostered for the original awesome core game.

 

Also they made this "rework" so console players could play carriers. In my opinion they needed to expand to consoles and find a gameplay that suited gamepads, they took pc population for granted and they wanted to expand to other platforms. Don't think they cared for anything else, not a plan or not a care in the world on how this would impact the game.

 

I have the impression over the years they focus primary on new players, which are the ones more prone to spend money since they need to grind all the way to TX on all branches. So new platforms would give a lots of these new players, and probably they thought pc playerbase was a bit exhausted.

 

Submarines seems to follow the same logic, gives new unskilled players the possibility to feel important by giving them an unfair game mode they can exploit against better players. And it works, random TX is mainly now 1 CV and 2 Subs.

 

So yeah, in the end clearly their main objective is to get as much money as fast as they can, even if it means ruining the game.

[hellhound666]

12 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

No there hasn't been and probably won't be.

exactly ... since when opinion of people started to matter in russia

[FukushuNL]

13 hours ago, AllterEg0 said:

Ok i do not think i am alone but has there been a recent poll  (60 months) to keep or remove CV or instead add a random game mode without CV?

 

I mean  virtually everyone hates them.  Most agree battles would be better without them, and we all just end up reporting every CV in game because we have no other way of showing our frustration that we are not listened to when it comes to CVs.  

 

Because i know some like them and some have spent a lot of time invested in them that would be unfair to lose. I think  a random game mode without CV would be better or for us.  or even better option is to just click something to avoid battles with CV.  That then makes us wait longer for a match which i would be happy with.  That way CV players are not affected, but allows those of us who hate them to enjoy a game without them.  Adding the simple tick box to game settings is a very easy thing to to.

 

thoughts?

I put up a poll a few weeks ago on that subject. Thought it had around 80% votes for a game without subs. Also did a vote which other ship types people wanted to vote out of the game, but most people wanted the original three classes in the game. I'll look up the link.

 

12 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

No there hasn't been and probably won't be. And to be honest - I like CV's. Both sides. Playing one and having one as an enemy. Same goes for subs. My opinion might not be popular but it is how it is^^

The amount of ships that can deplane a CV can be literally counted on one hand. Every ship that even used to be able to decimated planes can't with the rework like Atlanta, North Carolina and the ship previously known as No Fly Zone, tge mighty Montana.

 

I won't say one cannot have fun playing a onesided battle where one cannot win, but pointing out that it is bad gamedesign that can be easily hated and is completely unfair and unbalanced I can easely state as fact. Only if you state getting the least amount of damage vs an untouchable foe is a win in your eyes, then one can see a win in this situation. Everyone else might see that as a stalemate of some kind.

 

I do have less an issue with subs, as they have to bring their "body" into battle. When they F up, at least you can hit them back. Though in the current situation, they got too much HP, it seems. I don't play the game anymore because of people like to bully others with a certain broken class, but previous round of Subs in randoms was way better. The moment subs were spotted, they were almost always going to die. Just as they should, because then skillz had to be used to play subs. 

 

Edit: 

My poll.

[FukushuNL]

1 hour ago, ihan_paras_nimi said:

The heyday of the game started when rts CVs were removed. It ended when CVs were reintroduced. It's been constant downhill since.

They could introduce "surface ships only" randoms as an alternative mode. Finally WG would see the true opinion of the "silent majority". Only one patch would be enough.

I'd wager 95% of players would avoid facing CVs and subs. For that reason it will not happen.

Ah, that time in between RTS and the introduction of the rework...golden days. At least the old guard had gotten to experience that. Never will it get that awrsome again. 

 

I am 100% with you. WG should take 1 patch to introduce a surface ship only event mode. One where you could join from T5-10.  I reckon there would be no queue in that mode on any tier level. But it is obvious why WG will never do that, as they also know 80-90 percent of the people would only play that mode that patch. Only CV bullies would queue for normal randoms.

[SV_Kompresor]

When i stopped playing BBs most of my CV problems went away because the vast majority of cv players are only good at damage farming on bbs.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

13 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

Like I said - I have no problems with fighting on both sides. Deplaning a CV that is trying with all force to sink me or bringing a DD to the edge of insanity by blind dropping him in his smoke. Same with subs. If someone feels the need to clear a ping asap, and still is heading towards me I will wait, ping again fire and dive. And the other way around.. A sub that is playing offensive is usually bound to get spotted and yeeted. 

What you are actually saying is you don't mind getting targetted by nobs in carriers or subs. 

[MixuS]

13 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

Deplaning a CV

What's that? I have a vague memory of hearing the term in ancient history, but I don't know what it means anymore.

[ihan_paras_nimi]

31 minutes ago, Europizza said:

What you are actually saying is you don't mind getting targetted by nobs in carriers or subs. 

Soon there will be only nobs left.

[Nibenay78]

13 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

Deplaning a CV that is trying with all force to sink me

Funny man. 

 

In RTS days I would strongly agree this occation being enjoyable. 

 

In these days its mostly waste of playtime.

[OldSchoolFrankie]

16 hours ago, AllterEg0 said:

Ok i do not think i am alone but has there been a recent poll  (60 months) to keep or remove CV or instead add a random game mode without CV?

 

I mean  virtually everyone hates them.  Most agree battles would be better without them, and we all just end up reporting every CV in game because we have no other way of showing our frustration that we are not listened to when it comes to CVs.  

 

Because i know some like them and some have spent a lot of time invested in them that would be unfair to lose. I think  a random game mode without CV would be better or for us.  or even better option is to just click something to avoid battles with CV.  That then makes us wait longer for a match which i would be happy with.  That way CV players are not affected, but allows those of us who hate them to enjoy a game without them.  Adding the simple tick box to game settings is a very easy thing to to.

 

thoughts?

 

There was an incredible amount of feedback on the carriers, mostly negative from my point of view, but of course, as so often Wargaming had a different view. And there were also surveys on the subject that reflected the negative impression, but I can't say when that happened. As sad as it is, but the battle is lost, let´s hope that we can at least influence Wargaming with the submarines or ideally prevent them complete.

 

And what has been written here in the meantime is not to be taken seriously in my eyes. Somebody loves wargaming and seems to have found his life's work to give them his free time. I hope he devotes himself more to the german speaking part of the forum again.

[Maris_Piper]

Alas the only people who take any notice of a Poll is ourselves on the forum and maybe the odd Wargaming Employee who will blow some sunshine right up our collective s, The only group they Listen to is the "Silent Majority" {Uh that takes some Serious Vodka }

 

[XDukenukemX]

2 hours ago, Europizza said:

What you are actually saying is you don't mind getting targetted by nobs in carriers or subs. 

Yeah, leave it to totally real DDs to burn your Battleship down with HE spam.

[FukushuNL]

3 hours ago, XDukenukemX said:

Yeah, leave it to totally real DDs to burn your Battleship down with HE spam.

You know, if we could trade CVs to HE spamming DDs as the biggest problem ingame, I gladly install the game again and let myself burn all the way into next week and laugh happily doing it :D

[VuilbaardGames]

22 hours ago, SkipperCH said:

No there hasn't been and probably won't be. And to be honest - I like CV's. Both sides. Playing one and having one as an enemy. Same goes for subs. My opinion might not be popular but it is how it is^^

You will say whatever WG wants to hear, it is called spineless