[WKY05] Shipmate_Peter Players 13 posts 14,206 battles Report post #1 Posted April 8, 2022 Hi All What a sad condition this game has become. First overpowered CVs that you not really can do anything against, and now subs, that no one detects, or hunts and If you just consider, in any way, to stay at the middle of the map, you will have your ship full of torpedoes in a few moments. You can not run away from subs, and if a sub focus on you, it is game over. :-( Especially in high Tier cruisers, one are defend less against subs, and they will kill you with one salvo of torpedoes. :-( I have had so many good hours in this game, but that is over. Every game is a frustration, and you will quickly leave the game, in worse mood, that when you entered it. :-( Now I have bought a PS5, and a G29 wheels and pedals, and I am gonna build a sim-rig, or boy one. and will enjoy some Grand Turismo 7. :-( 28 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,875 battles Report post #2 Posted April 8, 2022 cvs ruining the battles all the day . i used my 18 reports already , i need more ... 11 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #3 Posted April 8, 2022 If you have anything else to play rather than this game (really, anything), than you should go play something else and put this on the ice for unknown duration. Or even uninstall. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,875 battles Report post #4 Posted April 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said: If you have anything else to play rather than this game (really, anything), than you should go play something else and put this on the ice for unknown duration. Or even uninstall. its my dream , i cant do it despite all the hate to cvs and subs ... 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,400 battles Report post #5 Posted April 8, 2022 I've pretty much stopped playing CVs rather than grinding the Soviet line, and I played maybe 4 games in total with subs, a few months ago, to see how boring they actually were (turns out: a lot). However, I've got the bad feeling that, seeing player population is low, WG is going to apply the negative-feedback-loop-from-hell and buff CVs and subs so more people would play them. Damned if we do, damned if we don't 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1701D] ross1193 Players 102 posts Report post #6 Posted April 8, 2022 I would love to see subs deleted :P they are total spoilers and there stats are ridiculous to say the least just so people will play them!!! At the very least WG put them in there own category like Rank or Brawl ( but not those please!), and get them the hell out of random battles. Seen so many examples of how OTT they are and how they are spoilers! The fact that u have people with less than 100 games under there belt in a tier 10 sub and TOP of the team result list REALLY does say it all!!!! delete them WG plsssssssssssssssssssssssss! PPS I literally don't play bb's and rarely cc now cause of them and my experience with them, also I now mostly play ranked battles . So yeh, thnx WG! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] DDG_121 Players 791 posts 10,933 battles Report post #7 Posted April 8, 2022 Play DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matium Players 49 posts 2,121 battles Report post #8 Posted April 8, 2022 I'm playing dota 2 and like 2 battles a week of WoWs , i suggest you do the same. But guys guys....why are you complaining? When they will introduce super-subs (nuclear i bet) and tier 12 ultraships i bet this game will get better and solve all of its problems! Now they moved from Belarus and Russia , now they will make WoWs great again! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] PeteEarthling [STEEL] Players 1,037 posts Report post #9 Posted April 9, 2022 Ruined beyond salvation. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #10 Posted April 9, 2022 I switched to Sea Of Thieves 2 months ago and I am so happy about it. Still on the seas, jus a lot more FUN (what games should be about). In WoWS devs don't understand that and are creating a frustrating environment in hope people will throw money at them to have some fun with OP premium ships. I occasionally return to have some Narai time, but I dont even want to open any other game mode. The game leads made so many bad calls, lied to us, cheated us .. that redemption is not possible for them anymore to make me come back. I wish you all the best. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #11 Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said: I switched to Sea Of Thieves 2 months ago and I am so happy about it. Still on the seas, jus a lot more FUN (what games should be about). In WoWS devs don't understand that and are creating a frustrating environment in hope people will throw money at them to have some fun with OP premium ships. I occasionally return to have some Narai time, but I dont even want to open any other game mode. The game leads made so many bad calls, lied to us, cheated us .. that redemption is not possible for them anymore to make me come back. I wish you all the best. You are ofc totally right concerning what WG does to us and the amount they care about us. But don't underestimate our community members. Some of us are sane enough to quit the game, uninstall to make a statement that we don't like WG and the game atm, only to lurk around hoping WG sees the light. BUT there are many people that care as much about you and the game as WG does, playing the game and the broken ships/classes while knowing they are broken. In my eyes those people are even worse than WG. For example, during WW2 in the Netherlands and Germany had occupied the country, which was bad ofc. But then you had a group of Dutch people called the NSB, going right along with the oppressor, ratting out resisitance people and those that hid from the germans, enjoying what the occupiers did instead of standing with their countrymen. They knew what the germans did was wrong, but didn't care and enjoyed the situation, going right ahead with it. So who would you blame more for the issues at hand, the enemy or those who know what is happening is wrong and thus should stand with those that make a statement against the enemy, but rather enjoy what the enemy did wrong and roll with it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Bubba_S Players 205 posts 29,613 battles Report post #12 Posted April 9, 2022 14 hours ago, Shipmate_Peter said: Hi All What a sad condition this game has become. First overpowered CVs that you not really can do anything against, and now subs, that no one detects, or hunts and If you just consider, in any way, to stay at the middle of the map, you will have your ship full of torpedoes in a few moments. You can not run away from subs, and if a sub focus on you, it is game over. :-( Especially in high Tier cruisers, one are defend less against subs, and they will kill you with one salvo of torpedoes. :-( I have had so many good hours in this game, but that is over. Every game is a frustration, and you will quickly leave the game, in worse mood, that when you entered it. :-( Now I have bought a PS5, and a G29 wheels and pedals, and I am gonna build a sim-rig, or boy one. and will enjoy some Grand Turismo 7. :-( Guys lik you, with hidden stats, thinking you are playing Microsoft Cruise Simulator, are the ones who cry your salty tears about all that makes the game more diverse, fluid and more demanding. Of course anything that stops you boardercruising, yoloing or lemming your way are a nuisance to you. Now you gotta use brains to play this game. Position yourself wisely. Coordinate with your teammates. Ask for support and give support. Even learn to angle your ship is not all anymore. The game is thankfully evolving and getting more diverse. Without, it would become stale and boring. 4 1 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #13 Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Bubba_S said: The game is thankfully evolving and getting more diverse. Without, it would become stale and boring. Lol. Thats quite funny because the game is getting stale and boring because its gameplay 'diversity' is almost fully dictated by cynical (neuro)marketing, unhindered by the lack of a visionairy drive for creating a great game. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GJE] dommo77 Players 939 posts 11,373 battles Report post #14 Posted April 9, 2022 12 hours ago, tocqueville8 said: I've pretty much stopped playing CVs rather than grinding the Soviet line, and I played maybe 4 games in total with subs, a few months ago, to see how boring they actually were (turns out: a lot). However, I've got the bad feeling that, seeing player population is low, WG is going to apply the negative-feedback-loop-from-hell and buff CVs and subs so more people would play them. Damned if we do, damned if we don't I did try 2 or 3 games in subs, did not like it at all. I share your fears regarding direction that WG will take with subs and CVs... I did not mind to deal with one scourge -CVs, I played them from time to time (know your enemy:)), but with subs and superships added almost every game has CV and 2 subs, and on high tiers plus superships. Frustrating to play any other class... After 2 and a half years I had to reactivate my steam account to look for alternatives, and I actually rediscovered some old titles that I used to play and have some fun. WoWs I play less and less now, such a shame... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #15 Posted April 9, 2022 Been playing Transport Fever 2 for the last few days and its doing wonders for my blood pressure. Got 1000 other games on steam so im not short of something to play, I just cant bring myself to put the time (or the large amounts of money) into WOWS anymore like i used to. The game is a shadow of its former self, they seem to have fallen into a similar trap that WOW did, and they have no idea how to get out of it. Look how that turned out for them... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WKY05] Shipmate_Peter Players 13 posts 14,206 battles Report post #16 Posted April 9, 2022 Hi All. Thanks for all you comments and replies. I dont why I did this tread, but maybe some place in back of my little brain, maybe I hope WG would understand that what they do, is ruing the game for a lot of players. I dont have the facts, but I think player base is stabil, not rasing. This due to al lot of old players quit the game, and a lot of new players come in to see what this game is, and unexperienced players can play with subs and CV, which they may find cool. Instead WG should focus on evolving the player base, as mention from others here, give players the possibility to enter games with no subs. Then I could live with the CVs, but both is soooo demotivating and ruins the game fun. My friend suggest when coming into a game with subs, just put your ship hard forward trough the middle, and you will be dead in a few minutes and can find another game. Problem with that is that you mostly will run into a sub, and motivate that player to play even more subs. For now I just report every single sub player.(Yes I am a real [edited] in doing that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #17 Posted April 9, 2022 15 hours ago, Shipmate_Peter said: Hi All What a sad condition this game has become. First overpowered CVs that you not really can do anything against, and now subs, that no one detects, or hunts and If you just consider, in any way, to stay at the middle of the map, you will have your ship full of torpedoes in a few moments. You can not run away from subs, and if a sub focus on you, it is game over. :-( Especially in high Tier cruisers, one are defend less against subs, and they will kill you with one salvo of torpedoes. :-( I have had so many good hours in this game, but that is over. Every game is a frustration, and you will quickly leave the game, in worse mood, that when you entered it. :-( Now I have bought a PS5, and a G29 wheels and pedals, and I am gonna build a sim-rig, or boy one. and will enjoy some Grand Turismo 7. :-( just do the sensible thing and don't play above tier 2 anymore or leave the game completely to let the sad sub and CV players battle it out between themselves. I was very sad to stop playing, but when it's no fun, it's just no fun, thank you Wargaming. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #18 Posted April 9, 2022 14 hours ago, Hades_warrior said: If you have anything else to play rather than this game (really, anything), than you should go play something else and put this on the ice for unknown duration. Or even uninstall. I've been telling this for years but only ever get downvotes :( 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist Players 1,045 posts 21,875 battles Report post #19 Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yuu5Eleven said: I've been telling this for years but only ever get downvotes :( how you tell things , makes a big difference . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #20 Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, BlueMerry said: how you tell things , makes a big difference . I know :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Bubba_S Players 205 posts 29,613 battles Report post #21 Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Europizza said: Lol. Thats quite funny because the game is getting stale and boring because its gameplay 'diversity' is almost fully dictated by cynical (neuro)marketing, unhindered by any visionairy drive for creating a great game. I guess we just have to agree we see this different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #22 Posted April 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bubba_S said: I guess we just have to agree we see this different Sure. I prefer quality over quantity. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #23 Posted April 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, Bubba_S said: I guess we just have to agree we see this different Wrong. You mention bordercruising and lemming trains as something that CVs (and subs) are a deterrent for, but in fact those classes are reasons why everyone stops trying to cap, or triies strategies like flanking and cross, instead lemming train-ing and clutter together in the back. If you try to cap, 20000 radars, a couple or subs and a number of planes will be on you in no time and reduce you to scrap in an even faster time. If you want to have any chance of deterring an airstrike, you have to huddle around the ship with the best AA, hence lemming trains. And the only ships withany useful AA fall in the DD/cruiser classes (ships like the mighty Montana suck in AA), so they can't spot either. So no, the current situation is not making the gameplay fresh and deep. On the contrary, it makes the game even more stale and with less options to play the game. Things like concealment don't matter anymore because of the power of spotting between Subs, CVs and Radar on half of the ships ingame. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Bubba_S Players 205 posts 29,613 battles Report post #24 Posted April 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, FukushuNL said: Wrong. You mention bordercruising and lemming trains as something that CVs (and subs) are a deterrent for, but in fact those classes are reasons why everyone stops trying to cap, or triies strategies like flanking and cross, instead lemming train-ing and clutter together in the back. If you try to cap, 20000 radars, a couple or subs and a number of planes will be on you in no time and reduce you to scrap in an even faster time. If you want to have any chance of deterring an airstrike, you have to huddle around the ship with the best AA, hence lemming trains. And the only ships withany useful AA fall in the DD/cruiser classes (ships like the mighty Montana suck in AA), so they can't spot either. So no, the current situation is not making the gameplay fresh and deep. On the contrary, it makes the game even more stale and with less options to play the game. Things like concealment don't matter anymore because of the power of spotting between Subs, CVs and Radar on half of the ships ingame. Strange, I do not experience this. I cap, I play and there is no such problems, you just have to be aware. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #25 Posted April 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bubba_S said: Strange, I do not experience this. I cap, I play and there is no such problems, you just have to be aware. you don't experience this my a.. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites