Do you want subs fully integrated into WOWS in their current form?

[Yedwy]

So since there are shall we say "creative interpretations" of what peoples votes mean that are going on in some of the other polls lets make it simple...

 

Do you want subs fully integrated into WOWS in their current form or not?

Yes that includes Randoms, Ranked, CB, Ops etc

 

Simple Yes or No

 

Comments are welcome but anybody with yes but... (insert any condition) should prob vote No as WG does not seem to see past the word yes in these things

 

So again full integration as they are Yes or No

 

Simple

[Nagine]

I think that subs as a class is a good thing, but I voted "No", because in their current form subs are bad (homing mechanics is really bad for the game and especially for insecure players who just want some simple mindless clicking behind islands).

[JohnMac79]

Subs dont belong in WOWS, at all, in any format.

[SodaBubbles]

So.. with our limited reports, do we report subs in coop too, or just in Randoms? 

[JohnMac79]

18 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said:

So.. with our limited reports, do we report subs in coop too, or just in Randoms? 

 

As long as they are helmed by a human being they will get reported along with CVs.

 

Imagine is WG monetised reports. I would be tempted to buy a few thousand per week.

[johncl]

I have no issue with subs in WOWS ..There are to many simpletons in the player base that can't think outside the herd mentality (The BAN CV and No subs in game at all type)  like a flock of sheep all Bhhaarrring together  

 

I think SUB and CVs could be an interesting alternate  style to enjoy  But they need to be implemented correctly .. AND currently subs are so far away from being a positive feature IMHO 

 

CVs also need changing for them to be positive to the game play but less so than SUBS 

 

Simply put any fool can point out the problems in life and this game .....The smart folk have already moved on to the solution 

 

I don't feel i have given SUBs enough thought to have a valid opinion 

 

But i could make CVs work better ....But WeeGEE don't listen to me so i won't be wasting more of my time   

 

[guy_incognito79]

No isn't a strong enough word but that is what I voted.

 

CV's are already toxic enough without adding any more broken, unbalanced BS on top of that IMO.

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, SodaBubbles said:

So.. with our limited reports, do we report subs in coop too, or just in Randoms? 

Personally, I'm not reporting submarines in Coop automatically: as a mode, Coop doesn't matter really, so I don't see that playing submarines does much harm there.

 

Quite apart from anything else, I suggest that playing some Coop games enable us to better comment on submarines; that said, I got my 'experimental' submarine games out of the way several patches ago, and have no enthusiasm for any more until/unless WG fix them properly. Not holding my breath.

[Ronchabale]

I´d say 4 big NO´s out of 5

 

Not in randoms

Not in ranked

Not in clan battles

Not in Coop

Maybe in some new operation

 

 

[hellhound666]

53 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said:

Imagine is WG monetised reports. I would be tempted to buy a few thousand per week.

ive actually suggested that ...

in their infinite wisdom they closed the thread claiming it was non-constructive 

i did of course demand part of the income

[Capra76]

45 minutes ago, johncl said:

Simply put any fool can point out the problems in life and this game .....The smart folk have already moved on to the solution

 

The smart folk know, as far as subs and this game are concerned, there is no solution.

[OldSchoolFrankie]

Please share the link to the survey so that we can achieve the most meaningful result possible! Thanks.

[johncl]

8 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

 

The smart folk know, as far as subs and this game are concerned, there is no solution.

Bhaarrrrrr

[tadaMonika]

Nuh uh

[Nagine]

1 hour ago, JohnMac79 said:

As long as they are helmed by a human being they will get reported along with CVs.

 

So human beings playing subs and CVs can AFK without any voice of conscience, because they are being reported anyway?

Hm, an interesting bonus feature of those classes :)

[lovelacebeer]

It’s a very easy NO for me. 
 

Submarines and submarine warfare in general are both really interesting and in good submarine games they are great fun, they are also utterly beyond WGs ability to implement in an acceptable fashion. 

 

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

1 hour ago, johncl said:

Simply put any fool can point out the problems in life and this game .....The smart folk have already moved on to the solution 

I saw Flamu get trounced by a sub the other day. He was in a BB. He happened to say exactly what I said in the post where I asked the 'smart folk' for help. There IS no counterplay.

So unless you know someone a whole lot smarter than Flamu - with regards to this game - I think you are talking out of your a$$. Which you basically acknowledge when you say 

Quote

I don't feel i have given SUBs enough thought to have a valid opinion

I don't know of anyone who claims to know how to counter subs. If you do know someone, please let me know.

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

 

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

Remember @YabbaCoe collects data from various sources and a poll with 99% "no" votes does not mean anything at all apart from 99% enjoyed pressing "G".

[Yedwy]

I ll share the link in ever Random I play in the next couple of days to see if we get more votes in...

[OldSchoolFrankie]

10 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said:

Remember @YabbaCoe collects data from various sources and a poll with 99% "no" votes does not mean anything at all apart from 99% enjoyed pressing "G".

That's right, in the beginning the result was clearer here too (100% for No), but now more and more people like the new, beautiful submarines.

And one thing is also clear, the silent majority only understands Wargaming and no one else. Please don't have any expectations based on our feedback!

[Yedwy]

24 minutes ago, OldSchoolFrankie said:

That's right, in the beginning the result was clearer here too (100% for No), but now more and more people like the new, beautiful submarines.

And one thing is also clear, the silent majority only understands Wargaming and no one else. Please don't have any expectations based on our feedback!

I am fine with people voting yes if thats their opinion its their opinion, if WG wants to stuff them in regardless ok I mean its their game BUT lets not tolerate their pretenses about "invisible majorities", "silent majorities" etc, lets see how many people actually want them as they are, lets see how big a number that actually is and then lets call the things with their proper names... 

[hellhound666]

22 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said:

Remember @YabbaCoe collects data from various sources

he does not collect any data from anywhere lol ...

at best, the data is sent from piter and our local heroes have no say regarding the matter 

[NewHorizons_1]

I voted, unsurprisingly, NO.

I'll concede though there as been some improvements since the initial release.

• Almost all surface ships now have some form of ASW, still debatable how useful (due to the risk) ship dropped DD & CL charges are, especially in PvP
• No more × IMPOSSIBLE TO TARGET operating depth
• Airstrikes seem to be slightly more consistent due to tighter drop pattern

Downsides are still there. I'd recommend

• Homing torpedoes should only work against other subs, where conventional torps would be next to useless
• Increase range of CA airstrikes, maybe with the Dutch CAs having an additional ASW airstrike that has the same range as their conventional ones.
• Restore detection of subs at periscope depth with radar
• Decrease hydrophone cooldown so that subs can hunt each other much earlier on.
• Maybe increase detection range at periscope depth with speed, eg wake from periscope

[POIfection]

They are absolute dog poo. One game today .. even winning is unpleasant with subs .. several of the opposing team spent the majority of the game chasing one of our subs around the map .. it ended so stupidly .. us chasing them who were chasing us (sub) to the corner of a map .. fun times.