canarias , extremely useless

[Ysterpyp]

This ship just sucks , ap is so slow, alpha is to low.. No HE ...

 

I've tried this ship a few battles only thing it does somewhat good is staying alive but guns are pathetic vs heavy cruisers and battleships..

 

Guns are ok vs Destroyers and i think this is the issue at the moment that wont make them buff it 

Pensacola is godtier vs this ship lmao, Get a tier 8 match you might as well exit to port, i wont blame you..

 

The role of this ship is to duke enemy shells and hope your team can shoot while enemy shoots at you  

 

Molotov 180's has 4400 ap alpha where this has 3800.. with nice GRAFF SPEE AP DPM , with much worse ap

[SV_Kompresor]

It's a ship that's actually balanced....but we can't have that obviously.

[Yedwy]

IDK I find her ok, I have other stuff I am working on so didnt play her all that much but as far as I did she is an ok t6 and pepsi was and remains a monster at t6

[ColonelPete]

She performs quite well on the EU server, especially when you consider that she was a free ship.

 

When one falls back into the usual pattern of spamming shells at BB, then she performs worse. But when you play her to her strengths, she is a decent ship.

[Kruzenstern]

I only played her in CoOp and Scenarios, but there she performed quite well. I find it hard to get citadels, but normal pens are abundant and yield good damage. Against all ship types.

[NewHorizons_1]

6 hours ago, Kruzenstern said:

I only played her in CoOp and Scenarios, but there she performed quite well. I find it hard to get citadels, but normal pens are abundant and yield good damage. Against all ship types.

I don't have Canarias myself, but I've seen it do well in ops. I guess timely use of the alternate fire mode (AP pen buff) on broadside IJN cruisers in Raptor Rescue.

[Aragathor]

7 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

I don't have Canarias myself, but I've seen it do well in ops. I guess timely use of the alternate fire mode (AP pen buff) on broadside IJN cruisers in Raptor Rescue.

That mode was removed before release.

 

Canarias is an ok ship, pretty average, low skill ceiling though.

[lup3s]

4 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

I don't have Canarias myself, but I've seen it do well in ops. I guess timely use of the alternate fire mode (AP pen buff) on broadside IJN cruisers in Raptor Rescue.

 

Wtf are you saying; there is no alternative fire mode.

[NewHorizons_1]

22 minutes ago, lup3s said:

Wtf are you saying; there is no alternative fire mode.

There was initially in the dev blog describing Canarias but as @Aragathor pointed out, it was later removed prior to it being released.

I wasn't aware of the removal, that's all and (incorrectly) assumed players had made the most of the AP buff ... that it didn't actually have.

Hence why I +1'd his correction

[lup3s]

16 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

There was initially in the dev blog describing Canarias but as @Aragathor pointed out, it was later removed prior to it being released.

I wasn't aware of the removal, that's all and (incorrectly) assumed players had made the most of the AP buff ... that it didn't actually have.

Hence why I +1'd his correction

 

I think the AP is quite decent on the Canarias; feels like RN (short fuse) AP.

Though i'll sail her only in Ops; tried out some Randoms but i prefer other ships.

[britinmadrid]

8 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said:

It's a ship that's actually balanced....but we can't have that obviously.

Yep, she has slightly better AP. Yes, she performs at the least adequately for a free ship. Yeah, when you mostly avoid BBs and instead you pick on DDs and CLs/CAs you do okay.

 

However, she is dull as ditchwater! Wow, is she boring to play!

 

Different tools add extra dimensions which you choose to employ according to your take on the tactical situation. With the Canarias you have but a single (decent) speed boost to use. Ho hum! I hope the new Spanish line won't be like this or I can't see it being popular with the player base no matter whether or not the stats says it is 'okay'. Yawn!

[Sub_Human]

Play it in scenarios its quite good.

[EgyptOverseer]

No specific flavour to it. Like others have said, her best role is the broadsides of poorly armoured targets, but no tools to help the team be even remotely impactful on the course of the play.

[Verblonde]

3 hours ago, lup3s said:

I think the AP is quite decent on the Canarias; feels like RN (short fuse) AP.

Do I remember correctly that she has rather improved AP angles too?

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

I have enjoyed Canarias so far in Operations.

As ever, YMMV.

I am very glad that i got her (WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS  )

[slugford]

I’ve only played two games in coop in her but she’s a pretty decent. Struggles a bit against armoured and bow-in targets. 

 

WG have included the hull-fired torpedo tubes on the ship model, and  ultra-narrow Mutsu-style torps would give it some kind of oomph without unbalancing it ?

 

 

[TheJbGuy]

She's a passive ship. Very strong against DDs and CLs with the short fuse 203s and can fight BBs if you aim for super structure shots. You have to make use of your team as meat shields to get the guns working. If you find yourself over reliant on HE She's not the ship for you.

[anonym_FDOLXpxOfXXq]

11 hours ago, Systergummi said:

Play it in scenarios its quite good.

 

8 hours ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

I have enjoyed Canarias so far in Operations.

As ever, YMMV.

I am very glad that i got her (WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS  )

 

Glad to see some people enjoy her. I sold her after a few tries in Ops.

Then I admit I tend to heavily favor light cruisers in those, especially DeGrasse.

[Sub_Human]

3 hours ago, AmiralPotato said:

 

 

Glad to see some people enjoy her. I sold her after a few tries in Ops.

Then I admit I tend to heavily favor light cruisers in those, especially DeGrasse.

I do agree that DeGrasse feels similar and possibly better. Then again Canarias is the only Spanish ship so far, I'll keep it just to have that covered. Also I would be really sad to have it show up in a Supercontainer or a Santa gift etc 

[________________Morrison]

Imagine getting dido instead... ;) atleast crank up the rpm for Dido. Rahmat is better and free.
Played both and ill say this much.
Canarias or London pick your poison..

[DrPhibes]

She's quite tanky for tier 6, so at least there's that.

[ColonelPete]

The ship has one bug that needs to be fixed. The shell weight used for AP calculation is too light compared to the weight listed in port. This seems to get compensated by an insanely high Krupp factor, but that is hard to judge.

 

@YabbaCoe

[FlyingBender]

6 horas antes, Systergummi dijo:

I do agree that DeGrasse feels similar and possibly better

De Grasse is100 times better... and fun!

[lup3s]

20 hours ago, Verblonde said:

Do I remember correctly that she has rather improved AP angles too?

 

Hi, sorry for the late reply.

I don't know if she gets improved AP angles; all i know is that in Randoms she was a pita to play while in Ops (Aegis) she was decent - though i still prefer other ships for T6 Ops.

[Ysterpyp]

The problem is the shell flight times

 

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