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Developer Bulletin for Update 0.11.3

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As a co-op main I feel that the economy of Superships are to harsh. 

These screenshots are taken after a game in my Yueyang.

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I was joint top on BXP, had a 15% discount on the sevicecost but no economic flags or cammos. If I haden't had a premiumaccount I would have lost 49 135 credits. Now ad another 45k to that debt and you have a supership.

 

To show what a bad game will cost I'll ad these pics of how much it's costed me to play T10 CVs in co-op without permacammos

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I understand that co-op isn't meant to make the big bucks but to lose credits in a gamemode that's supposed to be casual and relaxing dosen't make any sense. Especially when so much of the outcome depends on bot behavior, something you have not control over what so ever. I suggest a hard bottom limit of +-0 credits in co-op. It's OK not to earn anything after a bad game but paying through the nose just to take a casual spinn in a high tier ship isn't a fun and engaging experience.

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21 hours ago, The_EURL_Guy said:

Superships in the Tech Tree, a new ship in the Dockyard, and other new features await you on the Public Test server.


Read it on the portal

And i can see that it is even getting more and more exspencive doubloons in the Dock Yard @YabbaCoe it seems that WeeGee is getting more and more greedy what a shame :Smile_facepalm:

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6 hours ago, Hanse77SWE said:

As a co-op main I feel that the economy of Superships are to harsh. 

These screenshots are taken after a game in my Yueyang.

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I was joint top on BXP, had a 15% discount on the sevicecost but no economic flags or cammos. If I haden't had a premiumaccount I would have lost 49 135 credits. Now ad another 45k to that debt and you have a supership.

 

To show what a bad game will cost I'll ad these pics of how much it's costed me to play T10 CVs in co-op without permacammos

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I understand that co-op isn't meant to make the big bucks but to lose credits in a gamemode that's supposed to be casual and relaxing dosen't make any sense. Especially when so much of the outcome depends on bot behavior, something you have not control over what so ever. I suggest a hard bottom limit of +-0 credits in co-op. It's OK not to earn anything after a bad game but paying through the nose just to take a casual spinn in a high tier ship isn't a fun and engaging experience.

You are not meant to earn credits with tier 10 ships especially in co op mode.

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2 minutes ago, _Robertas_ said:

You are not meant to earn credits with tier 10 ships especially in co op mode.

I'm fine if I don't earn anything. It's payining >100k for a five minute game that worries me.

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5 hours ago, Cammo1962 said:

And i can see that it is even getting more and more exspencive doubloons in the Dock Yard @YabbaCoe it seems that WeeGge is getting more and more greedy what a shame :Smile_facepalm:

Or need extra money by other and intruding reasons  :cap_haloween:

 

Same reason the chat was disabled in last PTS rounds :cap_wander:

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14 hours ago, _Robertas_ said:

You are not meant to earn credits with tier 10 ships especially in co op mode.

Sure ... and he stated he's fine with 0 income. It's the credit LOSS that is the issue for COOP.

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14 hours ago, buccaneer_invader said:

Still no BRITSH SUBMARINES?????.

 

Unfortunately not for now, but there is a big possibility, that probably in future we will release British subs

 

13 hours ago, Cammo1962 said:

And i can see that it is even getting more and more exspencive doubloons in the Dock Yard @YabbaCoe it seems that WeeGge is getting more and more greedy what a shame :Smile_facepalm:

Well, if you compare the price of a stage to Odin which is also tier VIII battleship, the price is the same. 

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Why superships?  That is stupid idea. Next is what? Nuke missiles? I got over 10 TX ships i don't wanna see those rentals in my port. Don't need them. I ubderstant some people need them who don't have TX ship but those who got them. What is the point. I am looking forward to subs on the other hand. Alot of them to instal in the game. British, Japan, Italian, Netherland. But those superships. I have been asking people in game: superships yay or nay and most of them are nay. I love TX as strongest ships in game. Most of the people do i reckon.

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33 minutes ago, Shrike_Moorwen said:

Why superships?  That is stupid idea. Next is what? Nuke missiles? I got over 10 TX ships i don't wanna see those rentals in my port. Don't need them. I ubderstant some people need them who don't have TX ship but those who got them. What is the point. I am looking forward to subs on the other hand. Alot of them to instal in the game. British, Japan, Italian, Netherland. But those superships. I have been asking people in game: superships yay or nay and most of them are nay. I love TX as strongest ships in game. Most of the people do i reckon.

Also, the majority of players in tier XI and submarines are really bad or completely inexperienced.

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49 minutes ago, tsounts said:

How about this one WG? Are you serious?
 

 

I remember when they introduced Stun mechanics on WoT, few months after that I quit. Probably I'm gonna do the same here.

 

50 minutes ago, tsounts said:

Also, the majority of players in tier XI and submarines are really bad or completely inexperienced.

And this is the main reasons why you get newcomers with premium ships ruining the game experience on high tiers... Who were the majority of TX subs players? People with less than 1k battles and 45% W/R. Who were the majority of superships players on ranked? Again, people with less than 1k battles and 45% W/R...

 

Is this good for the game? Absollutely not. Is this good for WeeGee? Of course, they gonna milk more cows.

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You make submarines in wrong way.

 Submarines must be "glass cannon" with long reload.

To fix submarines you need

1 Remove standard torps .

2 Leave only homing torps with average damage.

3 Increase reload time or torps

Submarines playing style must be hit and run.

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18 hours ago, tsounts said:

How about this one WG? Are you serious?
 

 

 

Before you all pee in your pants - its 1. of april :-) in a few days   :cap_haloween::cap_haloween::cap_haloween:

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We haven't seen any prices for the superships and I hope you can buy them for ship xp and how many reserchpoint will you get for them 

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2 minutes ago, 416taylor said:

We haven't seen any prices for the superships and I hope you can buy them for ship xp and how many reserchpoint will you get for them 

We have...

And no, they do not cost XP and no, they do not give Research points...

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On 3/25/2022 at 4:15 PM, gnist0s said:

 

Before you all pee in your pants - its 1. of april :-) in a few days   :cap_haloween::cap_haloween::cap_haloween:

It's the 1st of April at WG the whole year round. The only thing that's missing is red noses and clown shoes.

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On 3/26/2022 at 4:35 PM, ColonelPete said:

We have...

And no, they do not cost XP and no, they do not give Research points...

So why should we buy them. It is strange that we can't buy them for ship XP when they are in the tech tree. They could have done them to premium then.

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14 minutes ago, 416taylor said:

So why should we buy them.

For the same reason you would get any othr tech tree ship.

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On 3/24/2022 at 9:20 PM, tsounts said:

How about this one WG? Are you serious?
 

 

This has absolutely nothing to do with 0.11.3.

This is exactly what we said it is. A concept. It is not close to being finished or anything. It is in the very early stages of development, and we wanted to be transparent and upfront with you regarding the things we are considering and testing.
It does not mean that this is 100% what will come into the game in this state, or at all, the same thing as with the CV spotting changes.

 

On 3/27/2022 at 7:56 AM, MoveZig said:

Will Leone owners get dubloons instead?

Yes. Leone will be compensated with doubloons.

 

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3 hours ago, Seraphice said:

This has absolutely nothing to do with 0.11.3.

This is exactly what we said it is. A concept. It is not close to being finished or anything. It is in the very early stages of development, and we wanted to be transparent and upfront with you regarding the things we are considering and testing.
It does not mean that this is 100% what will come into the game in this state, or at all, the same thing as with the CV spotting changes.

 

Yes. Leone will be compensated with doubloons.

 

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I'm just pointing to the future, the issue is not really if stun cvs come in 11.3 or 11.5 or whatever, it's just a bad concept, same as submarines! 

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6 ore fa, Seraphice ha scritto:

This is exactly what we said it is. A concept. It is not close to being finished or anything. It is in the very early stages of development, and we wanted to be transparent and upfront with you regarding the things we are considering and testing.
It does not mean that this is 100% what will come into the game in this state, or at all, the same thing as with the CV spotting changes.

 

 

CV rework, Subs and Superships all started as a concept, but they never left  or got a separate game mode.

Lot of our problems could be solved with a separate game mode, but... we know.... WG is listening, but ignoring us.

 

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