spend dubloons for the canarias/dido

[albin322]

ok first before they added the 10 mediterianian token reimbursment for the server problem buying both ships would cost you 5k dubs. 

 

but now it would just cost 2.5k if you do evrything so im actully tempted.  toughts ? i would go for the 10k coal pile as well so boat and 10k coal for 2.5k dubs

 

these ship will be short list christmas ships for sure!

[Panocek]

Dido is at very best, collectable ship and she was balanced around price of "free", and thats all she is worth. Technically you can make her work, but it will be a lot of effort for not much of results, as she makes likes of Budyonny or Nurnberg blatantly overpowered in comparison

[Aethervoxx]

Spend real money for anything in WoWS these days? Why?

 

[albin322]

6 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

Spend real money for anything in WoWS these days? Why?

 

not real money havent put money in for 2 years. but i have 22k dubs from ranked + i got a crap load of dubs on wg super container bhirtday 

 

[Axilian_1]

I had some doubs free so I thought I might as well get the dido for the Historical interest rather than anything else + plus I got the 10000 coal pack

 

Is it worth it ?

 

Only if you aren't paying  and putting real money against her - Fun ship to potter about with in Co-op and that's about it

 

Randoms I got the feeling she will be shite - guns are way too long a reload for a start

[PeteEarthling]

Yahagi is a heavily armored cruiser if compared to Dido.

[DirtyHeddy]

Dido is more or less the same ship as Rahmat which can be researched and bought for silver.

 

I consider Rahmat not a bad ship, but neither as a strong one.

 

Is she worth dubloons ? Not for me ...

[Panocek]

17 minutes ago, albin322 said:

not real money havent put money in for 2 years. but i have 22k dubs from ranked + i got a crap load of dubs on wg super container bhirtday 

 

I'd get one of the "free" ships normally from the event and keep dubs in case WG introduces premium ship you'd be actually interested in.

 

Dubs should remain there unless WG decides to pull the plug on the game servers, but then you'd have bigger ship related worries than "which premium boat to get".

[Hugh_Ruka]

12 minutes ago, DirtyHeddy said:

Dido is more or less the same ship as Chumphon which can be researched and bought for silver.

 

I consider Chumphon not a bad ship, but neither as a strong one.

 

Is she worth dubloons ? Not for me ...

Rahmat ... Chumphon is a Flint copy one tier higher ....

[DirtyHeddy]

2 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

Rahmat ... Chumphon is a Flint copy one tier higher ....

Yes right - I'll correct that

[Aragathor]

I've spent some ranked dubs to get both ships.

 

The Canary isn't great but it's not bad, and it offers a decent experience at T6. Pretty unique too.

 

Dido is an overnerfed piece of $hit that I obtained only to prevent it from dropping on Christmas.

[tocqueville8]

I got the Dido because she's pretty much the only smoke+HE cruiser I could use with a 21 point captain 

[koliber_1984]

I did just like you said with my collected doubloons, and will have both T6 ships. 

[Panocek]

2 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

I got the Dido because she's pretty much the only smoke+HE cruiser I could use with a 21 point captain 

Except she plays more like Kagero with a citadel and with neither torpedoes or concealment 

[Verblonde]

4 hours ago, albin322 said:

i would go for the 10k coal pile as well so boat and 10k coal for 2.5k dubs

If you've got the doubloons kicking around, you might as well - as you identify, at the very least, it stops them from dropping from the next round of Satan Boxes etc. (being optimistic and assuming we won't all be piles of radioactive dust before Xmas).

 

I've nabbed both by a mixture of playing and doubloons; I'm rubbish with cruisers, so I can't comment intelligently on how good/bad/appalling they are when played properly, but they provide a little variety for PvE, where quality of ship is perhaps less pertinent. In that context, my impression is that Canarias is probably a bit better than Dido, but I'll probably get more use from the latter due to nation-specific missions, and having better captains available for her.

[WWDragon]

Problem with Dido is that its a really crappy Atlanta and it pays, as LWM put it, Commander Skill Tax so its requires a dedicated captain that wont work with the rest of the UK line making unsuitable as a trainer.

 

Canarias is more of a unknown, its a "possible" template of the Spanish line but its somewhat unique as it stands even after the rounds of nerfs, both are "balans" of being free premium ships (no matter what WG says about how they balance ships, we know its BS) and seem rather mediocre, maybe not the worst but you better served with other ships.

[Aragathor]

34 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

I can't comment intelligently on how good/bad/appalling they are when played properly

But I can, as my favorite class are cruisers.

 

With Canarias you get a ship that works out of the box. It's not inherently weak. It has decent concealment even without CE. The range is good and you can perform in it even with a basic 3p captain. You are forced to stay at range, but you can utilize your speed to do that. You keep kiting.

 

With Dido the opposite is true. You are effectively trying to fight your boat first and then the enemy. The short smoke sucks, because combined with the second worst light cruiser reload at tier you barely can shoot anyone. You have no HE pen thanks to low caliber guns. And your shells are floaty as hell.  Your AA is garbage while being an AA specialized ship.

 

Canarias is an average and uninspiring premium, but Dido is firmly in the box stuffing garbage category.

[Panocek]

18 minutes ago, WWDragon said:

Problem with Dido is that its a really crappy Atlanta and it pays, as LWM put it, Commander Skill Tax so its requires a dedicated captain that wont work with the rest of the UK line making unsuitable as a trainer.

DD caliber guns on a cruiser with one of the slowest reload among light cruisers, so you don't pen much and don't set many fires, with not-good range and ballistics, absolute 404 for protection and hp pool. Ship that, supposedly, relies on agility to dodge her way through, but unlike regular UK CLs, doesn't have speed retention during manoeuvres, so you're "dodging your way through" at 25-26kts. But just like regular UK CLs, going from reverse-to-forward or otherwise takes several forevers

 

2 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

Your AA is garbage while being an AA specialized ship.

Dido class is more like "we need cheap warships and we need them now" kind of ship than "dedicated AA escort". In LWM review there was mention Didos were basically planned as replacement to aging C and D classes (Caldeon and Danae we have in game) small cruisers while utilising new promising 5.25" guns, considered adequate against surface targets while having AA capability.

 

For "actually AA ship" of Dido variety, you'd be looking at Scylla and Charybdis, both were equipped with 113mm guns that also stock Rahmat happens to have, as these guns IRL were much more useful thanks to higher rate of fire.

[Captain_82]

48 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

In that context, my impression is that Canarias is probably a bit better than Dido

 

Well I have played both, since I had the opportunity to test Dido on another account.

 

My overall assessment: I don`t like her. 

As for the reasons, they have been stated in this thread ...

 

Canarias on the other hand seems like at least a decent ship.

[Verblonde]

BTW if anyone is interested, these are links to LWM's reviews:

• Dido: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/251899-premium-ship-review-dido/
• Canarias: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/252313-premium-ship-review-canarias/

[NewHorizons_1]

5 hours ago, Axilian_1 said:

I had some doubs free so I thought I might as well get the dido for the Historical interest rather than anything else + plus I got the 10000 coal pack

 

Is it worth it ?

 

Only if you aren't paying  and putting real money against her - Fun ship to potter about with in Co-op and that's about it

 

Randoms I got the feeling she will be shite - guns are way too long a reload for a start

Dido might be good for Scenarios as well. Just took Dido out in Killer Whale and did OK in it. Got sunk a few minutes before the end, but still did 113k damage.

A better reload would be nice though.

 

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

6 hours ago, albin322 said:

ok first before they added the 10 mediterianian token reimbursment for the server problem buying both ships would cost you 5k dubs. 

 

but now it would just cost 2.5k if you do evrything so im actully tempted.  toughts ? i would go for the 10k coal pile as well so boat and 10k coal for 2.5k dubs

 

these ship will be short list christmas ships for sure!

Will you actually play the ships after u get them? Dont know how many ships like these I have in my port that I never played once.

[invicta2012]

3 hours ago, Verblonde said:

In that context, my impression is that Canarias is probably a bit better than Dido, but I'll probably get more use from the latter due to nation-specific missions, and having better captains available for her.

Dido has fewer frustrating situations where you can't do much damage. Canarias is an interesting ship but not especially versatile.

 

2 hours ago, Panocek said:

Dido class is more like "we need cheap warships and we need them now" kind of ship than "dedicated AA escort"

The Dido class were meant to be Destroyer Leaders (they're descended from the "Super Tribal" V Leader design) with room for a Rear Admiral's staff to co-ordinate Destroyer Flotillas. AA was always a secondary role and it was assumed that the 5.25 mount would be considerably better at the AA role than it was.

 

They weren't cheap, and for the same tonnage, they could have built more Arethusa's - ships which turned out to be considerably more useful (and didn't have the tendency to sink as a result of a single torpedo hit). They didn't do so, though, because the Arethusa's main guns weren't DP. Ironic, from a WoWS point of view,  as the standard AA on every other RN cruiser (and especially on Huang He and Chung King) is better than Dido. 

[albin322]

2 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

Will you actually play the ships after u get them? Dont know how many ships like these I have in my port that I never played once.

got over 450 ships in port so that question is probably never. with that said i shouldnt buy anything ever probably :P

[Belustigungspanda]

10 hours ago, albin322 said:

toughts?

I only spend (free) doubloons on premium ships that i'm somewhat sure i'll be using for one thing or another, so i will only go for one of the two free ships and the special container. 2.5k doubloons is about 25 to 30% of a discounted T7 or (cheap) T8 vessel and while 10k coal are certainly nice, i don't fancy paying for them.

Yeah, the ship might drop from some shortlisted container in the future, but i don't mind because it'll be free then.

 

Keep in mind that this is coming from a 99.9% f2p player with currently 97 premium/special ships in port and all lines finished except for the new panasian cruisers. I don't lack premium ships and don't buy lootboxes with real currency. Your mileage may vary.